Fujitsu's "crystal View Screen" tech

Sony Xbrite and IBM Flexview are in the same category.

With the Dell and HP's just a step below.

Reports from the IBM camp are that the flexview has pretty poor refresh rates. The Toshiba CASV is in that category and was the first one released on a laptop. I've had the Toshiba before moving t the 8600 in my sig. A "step" below is putting it conservatively. I'd pay an extra few hundred bucks for that technology in a screen ANY day. That's just me though. I know there is a minority that doesn't like the glare those screens give.

Brack - If you had yours a year ago, I'm assuming you have the N3XXX series. The N5XXX series uses the MVA technology and from what can tell beefed up contrast even further. Be that as it may, even the Crystal View stomps all over regular LCDs, IMHO.

Your opinion of course. The Brightview on the HP zd7000 is every bit as good as Xbrite IMO and is certainly better than any Dell or IBM.

i have seen the fujitsu and sony technologies side by side
and in terms of vertical viewing angles, the fujitsu goes to more extreme angles than the sony.

If I am getting Roarak right, the HP/Compaq LCDs are not top of the line but are still really good screens? I mean I did notice that when I was at BB the Compaq/HP screens were all brighter and better-colored than the Toshiba and Averatecs. Sonys i've seen both ways. The smaller 12 and 14" seem to be dull and boring! The bigger 15"+ are so much better.

It depends on the model you get as well. It's a fact that HP/Compaq also ships out the crappier Hitachi LCD's for example in addition to the Samsungs with the WXGA+ screens. As far as WXGA screens, I have seen no evidence of a particular manufacturer utilizing a lcd that is any significantly better than others ( I believe LG and Samsung are the two standards that are shipping of which the LG is "slightly" better).

doesnt dell use samsung? i mean the 15.4" WXGA that comes with the r3000

Oh quit your bias =P

If you take a trip down to fryz with all the hps and the sonys and the fujis and toshibas all lined up, there's no question that the sonys and fujis stand out like a sore thumb from the rest. Where it does come down to opinion is whether Sony or Fuji is better quality. I just have to say, the first time I saw that Fujitsu N5010 among the Xbrites, it took my breath away

Nudicles, Flashram is right on this one. The Brightview is a brand new introduction in the HP lineup. I should've mentioned that. It's RIGHT up there as the NXXX and Xbrites. You won't see that at Fry's because it's not available on any laptop there. People aren't privy to seeing it in person at teh stores unless you BTO it right now. No offense, but grand sweeping generalizations like that are generally false. The Toshiba's for instance as I mentioned before had two computers which introduced this "new" lcd tech to the notebook world in the US. The 5205-S705 was the first and it's subsequent 5205-S119 (both of which are discontinued but sell for a nice price on ebay considering the relative age of these models). Fry's even carried the S705 in So Cal as late as November of 2003. The Fujitsu 3XXX followed shortly and it's bigger and better sibling the 5XXX came even after (both of which Fry's sales guys pimp out as hard as they can...must be a special contract they have with Fujitsu, shrug). The X-Brite is relatively new as it's only been out last few months...

My own fault in regards to missing the HP series. I should've made that disclaimer when expressing my opinion on lcd's. My bad Flash. I know you've got HP handled .

Is the FUJITSU-SIEMENS using this crystal view screen in every new laptop what they make or is it only for the "N"-series?
And what is the true refresh rate for this screen?

I have noticed that many laptop makers dont inform their screen refresh rates, why?? Are there eny site where someone have listed many laptop screen refresh rates??

Thx.

Like Kevhuynh said, unless you custom ordered an HP with Brightview, you've never seen it. I have. The Brightview is at least as good as the Xbrite. And I have no bias. My notebook right now is a Gateway m505x.

a few clarifications..
The technology in N5 is known as "Crystal-view".. It's predecessor, the N3, uses the MVA technlogy..
But yes, the N5 has even better statistics then that of its little brother..

3000:1 ratio in contrast (I believe)
350nits of brightness (very good)
Refresh rate i'd like to remember is 20ms, could be 25ish?

I love my n5!

Ok...not 3000:1 contrast ratio...that's a little dramatic. I believe it's 600:1.
But you pointed out an important misconception: both the N3000 and the N5000 use MVA screens. N5000 uses a slightly improved one Fujitsu calls MVA Premium.

oops, my bad, I never considered the fact that Fryz didn't carry that notebook... Guess I'll have to have a look at that HP screen myself then.

The Fujitsu LifeBook N5010 has a 50ms pixel response time.

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