Apple vs. PC - Page 2

Have you ever attempted to multitask with a PC??? Being the busy teenager that I am, I always have at LEAST 3-4 applications going at one time....this bogs down even the speediest of PC's.....I've tried it on my friend's Dell XPS (with 1 gb RAM, 3.2 P4, 7200 RPM HD)....to no avail....multitasking simply can't be done.

On Macs it can.....AND to add to the goodness....Apple invented Expose....which is the tightest multitasking feature of all.....and I can do it all on a 600 Mhz G3 processor with a humble 256 MB of RAM...

Not to mention OS X is both a 32/64 bit OS......to take full advantage of 64 bit in XP you need an entirely new version.

Not to mention the host of other useful features that simply ENHANCE the user experience...thereby making it far more enjoyable....if I'm gonna' be spending multiple hours on a computer....I want it to respond, function, and perform to my expectations.

Oh yeah....one other small thing.....Apple pioneered the implementatioin of mice, USB, Firewire, Bluetooth, 802.11 b/g...Apple had a laptop with a 802.11 G card in it long before the PC community even realized what was going on......and the list continues to grow.......oh yeah, and their web browser.....it blocks pop-up ads automatically...no extra shareware plug-in required.

Which gets me to my main point....yeah with a ton of tinkering and configuring.....you MIGHT, just in a blue moon....get XP to feature the same usefulness as OS X....but to accomplish that.....a host of various shareware/third-party applications must be downloaded.....which ultimately results in system configuration conflicts and whatnot.

In the end....if you fella's wanna keep your PC....go ahead....I'm not anti-PC.....I just built my own last spring so I could get my gaming groove on....and I bought a Dell laptop for college use.....I'm just saying, that when the **** hits the fan, balls to the wall...in all honesty, Macs are simply superior to PC's.....simple as that.

Yep, and I do fine...Now maybe encoding video and playing farcry may be too much...but I can run three adware removal tools, play GTA:VC, and still alt tab to check my email, all on an XP 2000...


Maybe Microsoft didn't need to release a 64bit OS. At the time of XP the only 64-bit processor was meant for a server, and they had an OS for that...


I actually prefer my OS to limit its "usefull" features. Don't you hate it when you do something and your OS thinks it has a better way? Such as trying to set up a wireless network adapter with its own software...


XP SP2 will have a pop-up blocker. And guess what, its free. I suppose on a Mac you would have to pay for such a large upgrade...


You mean they offer shareware and freeware for PC???? Thats something very limited on Mac...


I see your problem, your friend had an Intel and you own a Dell. Maybe your PC experience is being marred by Intel....

dustpap- you say you are not anti-pc...but in your entire post, you say how far superior mac is to pc...i say that is a little anti-pc

Um, i can multitask fine even with a 4 year old Dell p4 1.3 and 256mb of ram. Maybe if i wanted to have farcry, splinter cell, and ut 2004 all running at the same time i would consider using a mac

Do you use any 64bit software? Will i ever use any 64 bit software? Who knows maybe in the future, but its not worth buying a mac for something that isn't widely used yet.

As for popups, i use mozilla anyway which is far better than what comes standard on any mac or pc.

What other enhancements are you talking about? Do you mean the "prettyness" of OS X? I can barely stand looking at all the useless graphics in XP, so why would i want even more useless stuff.

Mac's aren't bad computers, they are just way overpriced for what they can do (and can't do). If they were priced competively i might have considered it, but at the lowest 15inch powerbook starting at over 2000, no thanks.

Noooo......just cause I think OS X is better doesn't mean I'm some anti-PC/Bill Gates must die, kinda' guy

[quote=Dustpap] Oh....so you can run 3 spyware tools at once....darn...now if only OS X could get spyware.......Vice City is like the least graphically/system demanding app you could ever run.....and "alt-tab" gets owned by Expose.

Maybe, just maybe....it could be me though....Microsoft is now recommending the purchase of XP 64-bit to take full advantage of the new processors now in production by AMD/Intel..........talk about paying for an upgrage.


Actually, OS X is as unobtrusive as it needs to be...unless you ask for it...



Nope....Safari is free....and faster than Explorer/Mozilla/etc.
Oh yeah...I've been using it for the last year or so...again XP plays catch-up




Oh wait....wrong again.....Mac has plenty of share/free-ware.....take a gander at some of it on cnet.




And in the end....you did absolutely nothing to justify why a PC>Mac....whereas I made several good points as to why OS X is better.

dustpap, apparently you are a mac supporter...no one said that was wrong, but you get defensive when someone brings up another point...that's not debating, that's being stubborn and not admitting there are alternate points of views

I just dont understand, why a person would need 2 hands, to do the job of one. I hate the whole command clover/apple, button. I understand that its all the matter of pefereance, and that most users wont mind holding clover leaf, click, etc... but, IMO, its annoying, when you could be using your other hand to hit other hotkeys. This proves invalueble during video games, but i use my computer for graphic designing, and its just a few less hot key to remember.

I try to be as open minded as possible....but when people...most, who for the most part have never even touched OS X.....make random comments to justify why their PC's are soooooo much better....then, yes, I do tend to become defensive.

Dustpap, take a chill pill man, i think you are very much so anti-PC and i think kooloser is totaly right (for the most part). First of all, VC is very, very demading. I tried GTA3 on my P3 256mb and it was only about getting 20fps. However many other games I played worked just fine. (PS, i use Win2k Adv Server, not XP).

I use both macs (in school) and PCs (at home..have 2 desktops and a lappy comming soon). My most frequently used mac is a 800mhz eMac on OS 9.3. My 2 most frequently used mac is a 633mhz iMac with OS X. I can't do gaming in school, but what i use them for (net, email, word), they seem to be quick, although get hot fast and lag more than ****, The whole "no fan" idea is just not worth it. As for multi-tasking, my Win2k is very stable doing all i need to do. Right now i am running my networking software, AIM, IE, MSN, call waiting software (i am on dial up-deal with it!), firewall, norton, joystick software, and MS Flight Sim 2k. And it is still reletively quick for all the 866mhz and 256mb ram it got.

i personally love OS X, and if it were plausible for me to purchase a mac, I would. the ipod (which i use everywhere, my car, my home stereo, at the gym, mowing the lawn, everywhere), works so much better on the mac's (although good on the pc's, seamless on the mac's). I love itunes, imovies, safari, all of those apps that are mac's babies. I agree the mac are a great system, but i also think that they tried to make themselves 'elite' for so long, and 'high-end' for so long, that they just lost quite a bit of popularity among mid-range computer buyers. And as a result, for instance, less college students are buying macs because major programs they need for classes aren't offered on mac (that was my personal experience earlier this month), people who bought their first computer three or four year ago, most likely bought a pc, simply for the price, and as a result will buy a pc again, etc. like i said, i love macs and OS X, but, in my opinion, made some marketing moves that kind of hurt them in the long run.

Yeah......I totally agree with you...whereas I LOVE OS X.....Apple's hardware, though good, leaves a lot to be desired in terms of price.....in fact, the reason why I don't own one now is beeing the poor college student that I am, I had to go with Dell.

LOL on your iMac overheating....same thing happened to mine (very upset with that)....the entire conduction cooling theory does NOT work...all the new G4 iMacs have a fan though.

I'm all for PC's.......I don't care what people say....yes you can play games on Macs....and I can rattle off a list of relatively new games that are supported....but you have to have an UNGODLY Mac to run them (read: over 2.5k typically).....so in the end, it is a joke.
And yeah, XP is good....I'm not saying its not......BUT like I said before, when individuals make random claims that XP kicks OS X's ass, I get really ticked....because hands down X is soooooooo much better than XP.

I use a PC at home and Macs at work. i suppose, i have a fair amount of EXP with both sides, even tho i have a bias towards Macs, and have more exp with PCs before my job. Its no doubt OSX is a good system, IMO, but you have to ACCEPT the fact that people will give their 2 cents, based on the fact that they dont have an answer for both sides. People are giving their opinions, and if their opinions are only based from one side, and one side alone, i suppose you are the one who shall educate them.

Then educate them I shall!!!

Really now...if I could afford to buy everyone a Mac I would.

i think if more people used OS X, and macs in general, they would love them. but at the prices mac wants for some of their equipment, you won't have people just trying something new out, when they have a system they know and love. and lets be honest here, most computer users are idiots, and have slim to no idea of what they are actually doing on a computer, they just type the keys, press send or go or save, and that is about the extent of their computer use. so for them, why change what they know, when what they do is so simple?

yes, i think people need to be educated. but i think i would rather buy myself a ferrari and a huge house than buy everyone a mac. that's just my opinion.
(sorry everyone who's not getting a mac from me)

Yeah, good point..
which brings up yet another point.

Most PC users (actually any computer user, for that matter) fall into several categories: basic user, gamer, programmer/design, education, business, etc.......and really most people in these categories could care less about what OS X has to offer them.

or what XP has to offer them for that matter

You're way off base. Let's see--

Final Cut Pro
Motion
Shake
Logic
DVD Studio Pro

If you watch TV and movies, I'm willing to be that in the last month you've seen numerous projects using these products. And all these are not available for Windows.

I don't understand the price argument. The "Powerbook ripoff" and "iBook ripoff" laptops are actually more expensive than the real thing, and you can get a full featured all in one computer for $800 (eMac) that will do anything 90% of computer users need to do. I guess if you're really dead set on getting a full size tower it's a problem...but I think the majority of computer users don't open up their computer or upgrade it anyways (especially with all the external peripherals at around the same price as internal ones available nowadays) so an eMac/iMac/iBook is just what they need.