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An interesting problem (guys, I'm desperate)

post #1 of 72
7/1/04 at 12:03am
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I got my mitac 8050 today and am simply loving it. I'll post a review soon. However, I have a problem:
It's very hard to discern, but when I have "azul" as my desktop background, there are 5 vertical rows of dots that are lit a dark teal (so that they stick out) In each row there is 6 dots that are incorrectly lit. After fooling around with gamma, contrast, brightness, and saturation, I've been able to virtually make them hard to see. the weird thing is, when using a dead pixel tester, there are no dead pixels. The vertical lines don't show up. Everything is the color that it's supposed to be. So, what do you guys think?
Is this something that some new screens suffer from in first days of use and then goes away? I find it very unlikely to have 30 faulty pixels on a screen.
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post #2 of 72
7/1/04 at 12:12am
It would help if you posted a picture. What color are these 30 dots? Did you go through the whole palette of colors? Did you use MonitorsDirect's Calibrator?

To eliminate video card issues, how about hooking up an external monitor? My first bet would be on hardware (the screen itself, or rather one of its controlling circuits).
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post #3 of 72
7/1/04 at 12:16am
can u take a photo w/ camera
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post #4 of 72
7/1/04 at 12:17am
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yep.
edit: srry, my sis has the camera and will be home tommorrow. Basically, when scrolling down the notebookforum page (classic) five dark teal streaks appear.
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post #5 of 72
7/1/04 at 12:21am
There is NO burn-in or break-in period for an LCD panel. It should work right from the first moment.

Which set of ATI drivers did you use??

Andrew
Austin, TX


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Originally Posted by Tourney2112
...Is this something that some new screens suffer from in first days of use and then goes away?
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post #6 of 72
7/1/04 at 12:25am
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I'm going to go to ati's site right now and see if they have newer drivers. Hopefully that will solve the issue.
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post #7 of 72
7/1/04 at 12:30am
Be sure to go to ADD-REMOVE PROGRAMS, and uninstall the ATI Control Panel before you replace the driver set.
But then, I am sure you already knew that.

Andrew
Austin, TX
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post #8 of 72
7/1/04 at 12:43am
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I just found my dad's old 3 mega pixel camera! Here's a link to the pic (look for the teal streak)
http://groups.msn.com/mitac8050/shoebox.msnw
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post #9 of 72
7/1/04 at 12:44am
that's funky...don't know what to tell you though
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post #10 of 72
7/1/04 at 12:46am
ugh

im not sure what that is, but i remember another forum member had this issue... he only saw the lines in certain colors.

i dont remember how he resolved it, but it was very long ago. he posted a pic which had the similar vertical line
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post #11 of 72
7/1/04 at 12:47am
I get something similar w/ my Sager 8790. If I run KOTOR and minimize it, if I scroll Firefox (0.9) while on talknotebooks.com, I get a series of dots down the screen. If I drag the browser around, the lines will smear.

Those are the exact conditions in which I can get the dots to appear. I haven't been able to recreate it any other way.
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post #12 of 72
7/1/04 at 12:49am
****, and you have already put the latest ATI or Omega driver set on the notebook, and the resolution settings are all correct???

If so, I think you have an initially defective LCD panel (and I know you do NOT want to hear that!)

Andrew
Austin, TX
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post #13 of 72
7/1/04 at 12:51am
But he has it with WALLPAPER, which is a totally stationary image. So, I think this is a different condition than you are describing.

Andrew
Austin, TX



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Originally Posted by FriedToast
I get something similar w/ my Sager 8790. If I run KOTOR and minimize it, if I scroll Firefox (0.9) while on talknotebooks.com, I get a series of dots down the screen. If I drag the browser around, the lines will smear.

Those are the exact conditions in which I can get the dots to appear. I haven't been able to recreate it any other way.
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post #14 of 72
7/1/04 at 12:51am
Man that's rough to have to see that on your new lappy. I've never seen it before on a LCD, it's not dead pixels, definitely. My opinion, it's either a defect in the LCD circuitry, or more likely, a software problem. (IE: drivers)

It looks like there's a second line as well on the picture. Where the "show your sig" is?
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post #15 of 72
7/1/04 at 12:53am
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aamsel. I unistalled the ati control panel but can't find drivers for the gpu on the site. Would you be kind enough to post a link to where I'd get the specific driver I need (ati 9700) thanks
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post #16 of 72
7/1/04 at 12:55am
Did this system come with a "bare" drive, or did it come pre-loaded with the OS??
If it was pre-loaded, what was on it other than the OS???
If it was bare, please describe EXACTLY what you have loaded on it so far???

We need to absolutely eliminate software as the possible cause (I don't think it is).

Andrew
Austin, TX
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post #17 of 72
7/1/04 at 12:56am
will do. hang on a second.
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post #18 of 72
7/1/04 at 12:57am
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it was preloaded with the os and drivers. that's it.
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post #19 of 72
7/1/04 at 12:58am
It is here:
http://www.atitech.ca/support/driver...=12&submit.y=5
They are the Catalyst Drivers. They are for ANY Radeon card at all. They are "unified drivers" (for the entire product line).

Try these drivers. If they work....FANTASTIC!!!
If they don't, then your only choice is to blow the system away, install XP (assuming that you have a full OS install disk) and then these same drivers (before installing any Windows updates or anything else).

ATI recommends SP1 for Windows XP, but I would try them out before service packing your install. Should work fine, I have used them this way before.

Andrew
Austin, TX


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Originally Posted by Tourney2112
aamsel. I unistalled the ati control panel but can't find drivers for the gpu on the site. Would you be kind enough to post a link to where I'd get the specific driver I need (ati 9700) thanks
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post #20 of 72
7/1/04 at 12:59am
Thread Starter 
thanks man. Well, I'll try those out and hope for the best.
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