Lol, look at what this moron said about alienware notebooks... - Page 5

I do not know but you asked and I told.

Next time I know to say it like this

STFU = Shut the F up

I do not think it was for you

Yey

dude, just remember that MacWorld did a review of the G5 against an Area-51 and the G5s lost big time

Here is a link to what yoda117 is talking about. http://www.alienware.com/review_page...world_1203.asp

I've been reading through both this thread and the one posted in the first thread of this one. I'm so torn on the issue. Ballsack is an idiot and lacks even the slightest capabilities to defend his own product line. Second, he also sounds like a child.

I'm torn, because I don't really like either Alienware or Apple products. While both make great machines, both companies charge insane prices for them. I actually think that its ironic that Alienware people are bashing Mac users as both are the black sheep of the computer world. While Apple users are treated badly by PC users in general, the Alienware crowd isn't exactly respected either. The fact remains that Alienware makes really nice machines and prices them higher than many gamers can afford (especially since many gamers are still younger than 25 and lack the resources necessary to purchase them. Apple pisses many off by making a great computer product and then pricing it out of the range of most people and then making it proprietary, not making it compatable with the rest of the computer world and in general pissing off network administrators in colleges who then have to provide support for non-MS compliant machines on the network. You think your life is bad, just imagine being a Net. Admin and being told by your boss that you have to integrate a handful of Macs into the network and they must be able to print, interface with the Novell Server, run the same programs that the PCs use, and communicate with both internal and the external zone and namespace web servers with authentication and encryption protocals for registration.

Next, I think that both brag about metals in their computers. Personally, I'd want as little metal as possible inside the machine. As if my wireless network card didn't have enough problems with range, now you want to stick it in a metal box too? There is a reason why on desktops the antenna sticks out the back end. Ok, so you want to argue metals. I'd choose Aluminum anyday over Magnessium Alloy.
1) I think its lighter
2) I like brushed aluminum over magnesium
3) Magnesium alloy is flamable and can spontaneously combust, Aluminum is not and will not.
-Short story: the Army used to use Magnesium alloy Run-Flats in their Humvee's and stopped using them (replacing them with rubber run-flats) because they would heat up with the friction caused by driving and would burst into flame. Metal fires are NOT fun. While your notebook is not likely to be driven on or would survive the heat necessary to ignite it, I'd still rather not have yet another flamable product sitting next to my hundred or so degree processor. Plastics melt of course but still....).

Go get them Alienware users.

Opps, one final point that the Rhino guy on the other forum pointed out: Apple and its Educational sales. The products that Apple sells/sends to schools suck. They are the lowest of the low end versions and in the case of public schools are re-furbished relics that have been donated or re-sold to the State via government contracts.

I don't think that is correct. A lot of people here with Alienwares are older than that. I think that Alienware's target market are the people who are old enough to have money to spend on their products.



Well yes, this is true, but the case would have to reach temperatures of several hundred degrees in order to spontaneously combust, and any laptop subjected to this kind of temperature is going to have other problems as well. That, and anyone stupid enough to leave their laptop in this kind of situation deserves to have their laptop go up in flames.

I do agree to a degree when someone said that ALienware's target audience is a bit weird since it targets gamers, who are likely to build their own but isolate cheaper gamers. Alienware while still providing those A++++ PCs (See: ALX) is also making some sub-$1000 PCs (See: Bot), so their target audience is someone who wants a decent PC and can call someone when it messes up.

OMG Ballsac is being very ignorant over in that forum. He fails to acknowledge the validity of a MACWORLD comparison between the Area51/Aurora and the G5.

Most of his posts are opinion rather than fact, its quite sad.

LIKE I SAID BEFORE (and that one guy disagreed with me, ha ha, and my theory still lives on to be true):

All of the true facts in the world will not sway an ignorant person's view an inch.

Exactly - you can't convince the ignorant.

I mean, I've been wrong before (a lot), but if someone confronts me with facts, I have to back down. Not opinion or conjecture, but facts.

[coffeeshark starts rambling]

Even if Apple computers and windows computers had the exact same speed and processing power, you'd still pay so much more for an Apple. Facts is, they're not as fast. From the 133mhz bus to the 800mhz processors, 4200rpm hard drives and 64mb video cards, they're slower all around.

The 'benefits' of owning an Apple, such as:

superior build quality (nothing to back this claim up, just his statement)
Here's some users problems with build quality: http://discussions.info.apple.com/we...Y5.2@.599c70df
"And here's yet another thread with more than a hundred posts from people with the exact same problem. Feature for feature, this is the best notebook I've ever had: slim, bright screen, the first viable desktop replacement I've ever used. Unfortunately, it also has, by far, more design-oriented hardware problems than any other computer I've ever owned"
Read the thread, it's pretty obvious that there are plenty of problems with build quality (and software too)
You'll love the $1000 "logic board" replacement that Apple does. Plus they have hinge problems, too (see Gateway/Emachines thread on notebookforums)
Here's the main powerbook g4 forum, it's a good read http://discussions.info.apple.com/we...rY5.2@.eebff35
And did I mention people have been getting shocked by the powerbook? Yes, electric shocks, verified by Apple.
Then there's the white spots on the LCDs, uneven illumination, etc. And surface corrosion on the palm rests, black dots on the "titanium" surface.
And the guy that had to forcibly bend his entire powerbook so it wouldn't wobble on his desk. How sturdy!
Great build quality!!!

no plastic case (so you have one color choice? i can buy an aluminum notebook too)
Here's why apple doesn't paint their aluminum cases any more http://www.uc.pt/ihti/joaquim/titaniumproblem/

excellent screen (15" high-res TFT XGA? ooh. don't forget the whitespots problem on the g4 screens)
backlit keyboard (yeah, we can get those too, oh, by the way, learn to type without looking, it's easier)
5.6 lbs (big deal, lots of Pentium M notebooks beat this with better power)
1.1" thick (again, we can get thin laptops too)
mac osX (hooray, you have cartoons and a clock on your desktop)

he forgot to mention his 4200rpm hard drive and 90 days phone support and 1 year warranty and the battery life, tested by ZDnet to 2.3 hours (not 4). 90 days phone support? wow, great service.

And the all-aluminum body tends to dissipate heat well - right onto your lap. beware.
Nobody mentions apple's 133mhz bus, either.

$2500 for the 15" apple laptop, no carrying bag. Gee, great deal.

He likes to mention how apples aren't made for gaming - but doesn't realize that gaming performance is one of the better ways to measure the overall performance of a laptop, not just for games, but for any task involving memory and graphics.

And for those of us that don't have a laptop and a desktop for games (as ballsac says he does), why would we buy two machines when we can buy one good laptop?

But those are just facts, and ballsac doesn't like facts. Do a google search on G4 reviews and see what real users (not fanboys) have to say about it. Most of them say something like "great screen, costs too much, no phone support".

Like I said, check out the apple forums, it's an eye opener as to Apple's alleged quality and stability.

one last thought: how many of us have to get Mac-emulation software?

LMAO at your last comment Shark.

I do, I do j/l

Remember this is a two front war:

Windows XP vs. Mac OS
Alienware vs. Macintosh

If you want to expand the debate beyond the two categories, just remember that Alienware isnt the all-encompasing company of Windows based machines.

Alienware has its niche but does not appeal to everybody. People who refuse to see the value of Alienware and its appeal to people are just plain dumbasses.

Macs also have a niche market, but since they are so proprietary alot of those in the niche has to deal with whatever Apple releases. Macs have their appeal too with its aesthetic style, but the Opersting system has much left to be desired (but has its benefits).

I used to only use a Mac before I was converted to PC.
What these Mac people do not realize that there has been a greater exodus away from Macintosh to the PC than vice versa. It doesnt take a genius to run a PC anymore, I admit it took some skill to run Windows 3.1.
Macs were a real viable option back in the day (for me that was OS 7), but today the need to run Windows is almost overwhelming; the world runs on Windows.


Whats funny is that those Mac guys in that forum havnt posted ANY conclusive evidence that the Powerbook is superior over the Area 51m. We've just seen conclusive evidence that shows that the Area 51/Aurora is superior to Apple's finest.
For Ballsac: GARBAGE IN, GARBAGE OUT.

OS 7?

For it's time, that was a kick-a$$ operating system, as was 7P. No support for anything, but I enjoyed it.

As for Ballsac, or anyone else who acts like that I just remember the words of my father, "the way some people act reminds me of a couple of monkeys trying to f*$k a football."

I've just got one comment:
Who the heck in thier right mind would make their nick "Ballsack"?!? I sure hope all mac users aren't like that...

maybe he just wanted to give us all a warning as to his personality first, hehehe