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post #61 of 78
well, there are some disadvantages though... non-widescreen being the main one, i think. the viewing angles are poor, unfortunately. the other being the looks, some people hate it (not me though! =D)

another m11 with great batt life and wxga like the mitac8050 would be a better starting point for someone look if they wanted a great screen, plus its so pretty silver.
post #62 of 78
The CL56 is pretty perfect for me... If there was an option to take a Pentium 4M, I would, but there isn't any Pentium 4M as cheap, and light, with as good a GPU.
post #63 of 78
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Originally Posted by HiOctane
LINK ME BABY!
It's 2:30am.. I'd rather concede and say the CL56 is over-promoted than search for the posts out there.
post #64 of 78
I hate widescreens.
post #65 of 78
whoh i missed a lot.....as for the backlight issue, i have that too....will post pics later.
post #66 of 78
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Originally Posted by Sharakkhal
It's 2:30am.. I'd rather concede and say the CL56 is over-promoted than search for the posts out there.
aww... can't give up that easily... i was looking for some "bicker".. hehe
post #67 of 78
Heres another
post #68 of 78
Whoa, i guess i'll have to read all the posts in this thread now...
post #69 of 78
Now that i've read this thread, i'll throw in my .02

I do find it pretty funny how everyone promotes their own Notebook. Of course no one wants to stand up and say "i made a terrible decision even though i spent weeks on this forum researching it". It's the same 5-10 people who promote the Cl-56, and each thread that presents itself, i'm not supprised to see those same people in their (first 1-3 posts) saying how great the notebook is. I can see it's a good notebook, but to try and persuade every buyer about all its glory's, i mean come'on. I'm not trying to flame the CL-56 lovers, but there are many options out there to be considered, so don't just throw out CL-56 cause you own it and it's OMG so great!!@$#!

As far as a new Forum, i couldn't see it hurting anyone. I'm sure the same 5 people will still be in "general" promoting the cl-56 cause they own it and want to reinforce the reasons for which they bought it, but there's nothing wrong with that. Of course i push the products i own (laptop or not) because i would like to think i made a wise decision in my purchase. So bassically as i ramble on about things you don't care about, i'll crawl back into my hole, crack another beer, and pipe down. Have a good day.
post #70 of 78
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post #71 of 78
sheesh, you guys post way past my bed time. Anyway, this will be my last post and then I will forget that this debate ever happened. In response to Aikeo:

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Originally Posted by Aikeo
tourney's own words, which he vehemently supports (clearly): "athlon64 will be the obvious victor. a 1.7Dothan can't compare. To me, it's obvious that the athlon64 is the way for u to go."
The athlon64 chipset supports PC3200 memory while the CL56 tops out as PC2700. This allows for better performance because of the faster memory speed. Also take in account that a 1.7GHz Dothan will give performance comparable to a 2.55GHz P4 while the Athlon64 is rated as performing close to a 3.06GHz P4. This is why I chose to say obivous victor, because when you look at those numbers: 2.6 v. 3.0Ghz, I'd say that the Athlon64 will outperform the 1.7GHz Dothan.
I was incorrect is saying that "a 1.7Ghz Dothan can't compare" because it very well can. As Aikeo said, the performance difference between the Athlon64 won't be noticeable in real-life situation but will be seen slightly in benchmarks. however, abf's desire to keep the laptop for 4 years made the athlon64 seem like the obivous choice for him. Sure, we don't know when 64bit will become mainstream but it's better to be safe than sorry.

As for Aikeo saying that I was trying to "persuade" abf to get the athlon64, I should say the same about you. We both gave support for our reccomendations that were meant to show him which one fit his needs better.

Aikeo is also a liar; he claims not to be a name-caller when in fact he was the one who started the name-calling. In abf's previous thread Aikeo said
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Originally Posted by Aikeo
bacon guy, on the other hand, is really a jerk
post #72 of 78
After reading through all of this, I agree and disagree with some points.

First of all, many posts of people asking what laptop to get typically breakdown to what hardware performs best for this type of use. Obviously no one knows what exact notebook every particular person would be best suited for, but most people don't go in expecting to be told that a CL56, or a Sager 8790, etc. will be the exact laptop that will be perfect for them. When I started a thread, I didn't expect to be told what to get, I expected to get what people have and what they've experienced so I can get an idea of what to look for and go from there. Most people on these forums seem to be intelligent enough to decide the minute details of what size HDD to get. I came to the forums in search of facts and information about the various choices of processors, video cards, and the like and how people have seen them perform based on what their specific type of use is. Typically the people that need to be told exactly what to buy will go to a retail store.

That being said, yes people do mention what they have and how it performs for them in what they do. However, not everyone pushes their product on everyone else saying it is the end-all, be-all for everyone. Some people do say "Oh, my CL56 is so great" or "My Alienware laptop is the best ever". This may be true, but not for everyone. Your laptop should be good for what you do. If you have similar needs to what someone else has, there stands a chance that a similar laptop will work well for both people. For someone who wants 64-bit capability for the future and doesn't care about battery life, then an Athlon64DTR would be best, but for someone who wants ultra-mobility, that probably won't be the case and they would benefit more from a Pentium-M (and before everyone starts up, yes, I'm aware that there is an Athlon64 LV, but you're missing my point).

Forums are meant to be a helpful resource of information. They are supposed to be used for the sharing of people's opinions and information. When people start broadcasting that their way is right and your's is wrong it loses all meaning. Personally, I know that I would take the opinion of someone who acts professional and backs up their information with legitimate reviews or resources much more strongly than the person who flames everyone who doesn't agree with them and has no information to back it up. I came across these forums and found a lot of very useful information, and then I started a thread with some questions of my own and found even more useful information and from there I made my choice. I was very open to information and would take any that I could get and with all of that information, for my particular uses I made a decision. I, like many other people, changed my decision many times because I kept coming across new information. If I'm presented with more new information, I may change my mind yet again. That's how things work, everyone makes a decision based on what they know, so by starting arguments over who is right or wrong, all of these people turning to the forums for help, like myself, may wind up making the wrong choice because they were unable to get all the information necessary.

That's my 2 cents. This is not meant to be directed at any person in particular.
post #73 of 78
^ Pretty much how i feel about it as well. I think numbers (benchmarks/price - performance ratio) will speak for themselves, and then let the opinions of members guide you towrds the particular model that is right for you ie: screen, battery life ect. It just seems so many people jump on here, do NO research in the review section, and just throw out there "i want a 15" or bigger screen, fast proc, nice gfx, and long battery" and of course the cl-56 has that stuff....but had they looked around they would find that a lot more systems have those stats as well. When i bought my notebook i did as much research on it as i could even though i got it the first week it was released so there wasn't much info on it, i could just see that it's specs were good, and obviously the price/performance ratio on this thing can't be beat. I also find it funny how several people have bashed the E-machines name to make their brand notebook look better. Sure it took me some time to get over the fact there was an E on this thing, but once i started seeing this thing perform, that all went out the window. I would love to see another m10 64mb on any platform throw up the numbers this machine does, even m11's 128mb aren't hanging with this thing atm. Being a guy who's always built my PC's this whole laptop thing is still very new to me, i just can't wait till next gen hardware is released for these things. I was looking into a second NB myself but it feels like we're close to a step up, and i want to be a part of that
post #74 of 78
Sheesh. Aren't y'all tired of this thread (and the four others like it) already?
post #75 of 78
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Originally Posted by HiOctane
Or we could all stop sitting around singing "coom bi ya" while slobbering over the CL56 and consider that it is not the answer to everyone's unique needs. There are new solutions being released and new ones still to be released. Go ahead and create a CL56 forum, imo, as it will weed out the people that can't seem to do anything but default to that as the answer for everyone without examining the specific "pains" of each member here.
I've been saying this for the last week. I don't even think certain people are even reading the needs of the user and they'll parrot CL56.
post #76 of 78
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Originally Posted by HiOctane
Hehe, do a search on some of my posts, I am rather, well, vociferously opposed to the predeliction of some people to suggest the CL56 even in threads where it's completely out of sync with what people are looking for.

Case in point, without directly quoting a particular post, on more than one occasion I've seen people saying they want a 15.4" WXGA screen only to have the very next reply say, "you should really take a closer look at the CL56". Downright retarded I tell you!
I've done the exact same thing. I've seen it suggeseted for a user whose primary goal was a 4lb machine...I've seen it suggested for a user who specificallly wanted widescreen.
post #77 of 78
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Originally Posted by Aikeo
well, there are some disadvantages though... non-widescreen being the main one, i think.
Of course, that disadvantage is relative as there are those of us who think having a widescreen is a disadvantage too.
post #78 of 78
No need to parrot a particular machine when you have this thread:

http://notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=22187

Probably the best one out there for considering "unbranded" (ie not HP, Dell, etc) Centrino based laptops at least. It helped me a great deal in making my decision, even though I finally decided after 3 months that the CL56 was the best one for me.
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