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post #1 of 43
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Hey guys! So I have my Fujitsu S6210 and its working wonderfully. I'm going to review it, and I'm going to do it in a couple stages. I'll review it now, and a bit more after a few days of use.

First, I'll review PortableOne.

www.portableone.com is where I bought this laptop. I highly recommend them. I have had NO griefs with them. When I was first trying to decide what to buy, I emailed portableone and talked with Ivan about a few issues. The response time was great, I usually got a reply email within a minute. He answered my questions in a straightforward and truthful manner.
He told me before I ordered that it would be a couple weeks of wait, because they were out of stock. Fair enough. I saw that they were nearby (15 min drive) from where I live, so I asked if I could pick up the laptop and pay in person. He said this was fine and reserved a laptop for me. I thought this was very nice because he reserved a laptop which was in obvious high demand for me even though all the contact I had with him was over email and didn't give him my credit card number yet.

So today, about two weeks later, I went to get the laptop. When I got there, Ivan came and talked to me. Got me my laptop and had me open it and make sure everything was good. He seemed just as relieved as I did when I couldn't find any dead pixels His conduct was very friendly and professional at the same time. He also gave me a free carrying case.

So this was my purchase:

Fujitsu S6210 -

Pentium M 1.6Ghz Banias
512 (2x256) RAM
40gb 5400 rpm
DVD/CDRW combo
Wireless B/G
and the rest of the standard stuff you can find on their website or the fujitsu website

Free Carrying Case

Base price: 1499
Student Discount: 50
After tax: about $1550







Now, on to the laptop review. I tried to take pictures of everything I thought was important. I didn't use flash for most of the pictures because I don't like flash But, don't worry, I had a tripod. The pictures aren't great, I didn't take much time to take them. And my tripod is broken, so everything's at an angle, but it gets the point across, I hope!


Ok, first thing is its size. Its a 13.3" screen, so its just a bit bigger than a piece of paper. It is light, I can easily hold it with one hand if I wanted to. A bit heavier and I wouldn't trust my hand, though.

Here are the four sides:



On the front there is a SD/Memory stick card slot. It doesn't have a cover.
The button to open the laptop isn't the normal pull sort of clip. You simply press the button and the top pops up a bit. It makes openning it with one hand easy.


On the left side are all the air vents and the slot for the PCMCIA (probably got that wrong) card. The headphone and mic slots are there too.



On the right side, there is the DVD/CD drive and the hole for a laptop lock.



On the back, there is (from left to right, while facing the back)

phone line, 1 usb port, External screen connector (with a cover), power plug, wifi switch, s-video plug, ethernet plug, firewire slot, 2 more usb ports.



Now, the keyboard area. There is the touchpad, left and right click, and then a button that rocks up and down for scroll action. No middle mouse, I don't think. It seems that you can similuate middle mouse with pressing both left and right at the same time. The keyboard itself is pretty good. The keys are wider than most laptop keyboards. I welcome this, because I don't want to feel cramped, but it takes a bit to get used to. There's nothing too much else to say about the keyboard. There's also a button to disable the mouse, which is useful when typing long things (like this review). Above the keyboard, there are 6 buttons. The one on the most right is power. Next to that is the application/player switch. each of the next 4 buttons has 2 functions, the switch changes between which action is taken when teh button is pressed.

Then there's the little readout next to the buttons. non-lit, it will be hard to read at night. It shows power readouts, and i'm not sure what else (haven't read the manual yet :P)

The screen is glorious. Its Crystal View. Nothing to complain about :P It makes my CRT feel dull. Left and right viewing angles are great. I can read text from a pretty extreme angle. Up and down angles, on the other hand, aren't as extreme :P move your head up a foot and it gets really bright. move down and it gets dark, but still readable. Yes its a glossy screen. Not noticable indoors. But outdoors, it has a mirror effect :P I don't notice it while working, but I'm sure I could check my hair in the reflection.

for what its worth, here's a video (5 megs. taken from my digital point and shoot camera). Of course, it doesn't really show what it looks like in real life. but hey, just for fun :P

http://images.sixdot.net/laptop/screen.avi

The palm area is starting to heat up a bit after some use. After typing this pile of text, my palms are starting to get sweaty. Not uncomfortable though. Just, if you type for like, 30 minutes at a time, your hands will get slippery :P

Nothing much to say about the bottom. there are 4 little feet things, and two sort of leather pads which help it move around comfortably.

Nothing much else to say. these are my first impressions. I will write more after I've had a chance to use it and install my stuff on it

shutdown time: 12 seconds
startup: 30 seconds


So those are my first impressions! I'll post more later. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask. I'll try to answer :P
LL
post #2 of 43
Very nice man. I was gonna do a review of my sis' S6210 as well but got lazy. I'm glad you like it as (like I've mentioned before) this would've been my choice if I wanted pure portability.
post #3 of 43
Nice review and juicy pics.

I think the video is probably a bit misleading about the screen (making it look worse than it really is), because of the exposure and video frame rate. There's not much you can do about that though.

I used to prefer the P5000 and P7000, but even before your review I've switched to favoring the S6210 as my ultraportable of choice. I think the faster CPU and slightly bigger screen is worth the trade off in size.
post #4 of 43
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Yeah, the video isn't too great :P but meh, I thought it'd be fun
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post #6 of 43
Great review & pics!!!! A very tasty machine!

Thanks!!!
post #7 of 43
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after using my laptop on my lap for a while yesterday (what a concept!), I think I found out what the leather pad things are for. It seems that those pads are where most of the heat comes out of the bottom of the laptop. Makes sense as they're next to the head vents on the side.

So basically, its an extra layer of protection. The heat on bare skin (if I was wearing shorts) would feel less sharp I guess (haven't tested it :P)


oh yes. and fan sound. When you boot, the fan blasts for a couple seconds. When you come back from standby, it also turns on and off really quickly. Its not as loud as a laptop CD drive going full blast but its noticable
post #8 of 43
What do you think of the build quality and sturdiness? Someone on one of these forums said that the fujitsus were "as flexible as a roll of toilet paper". Though I'm sure that's an exaggeration, is there any substance to the statement at all?
post #9 of 43
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I have no complaints with its sturdiness. Its made out of plastic, that's for sure. Is there anything you want me to compare it to, or a way to check its "strength" (without breaking it)?

also, its pretty light, so that doesn't make for much of a feeling of strength. My metal Canon S50 camera feels nice and sturdy especially when compared with my dad's plastic HP camera. But it is also quite a bit heavier.
post #10 of 43
I don't really have a seven step guide to testing notebook sturdiness, but you could see how flexible the screen is, and whether shaking it causes any BadThings(tm) to happen.

As far as comparing it to others, I don't know what you have access to, but a comparison with the IBM T series would be great.
post #11 of 43
Decision made...ordering my Fujitsu S6210 from Portable One on Monday! It came down to the Asus M5N or the S6210. At less than 2 hours, the M5N's battery life blows. Also, a close examination of the specs revealed that the M5N weighs a little over 5 pounds when equipped with the CDRW/DVD drive and standard battery. So, the decision was not that tough after all.
post #12 of 43
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Originally Posted by jswriter
Decision made...ordering my Fujitsu S6210 from Portable One on Monday! It came down to the Asus M5N or the S6210. At less than 2 hours, the M5N's battery life blows. Also, a close examination of the specs revealed that the M5N weighs a little over 5 pounds when equipped with the CDRW/DVD drive and standard battery. So, the decision was not that tough after all.

Which reseller's Asus m5n are you looking at? There are other factors in low battery life, particularly the battery being used. I've noticed that Asus has been putting in 24 WHr batteries in their retail notebooks (s5ne) which are the reason for the low battery life.

According to Asus' site if you put a 72 WHr battery in an m5n you can get up to 7.9 hours. The Fujitsu S6210 should come with a 47.5 WHr battery.
post #13 of 43
On a separate note, nice review and pictures but I'm curious about how you feel about the sturdiness of the keyboard. There have been reports of it being "flimsy" or "sponge-like" in certain areas.

I had a chance to feel the S7000 at a store and felt that the keyboard wasn't quite as sturdy as the previous model S6120 which was a delight to type on.
post #14 of 43
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Originally Posted by Youhou
Which reseller's Asus m5n are you looking at? There are other factors in low battery life, particularly the battery being used. I've noticed that Asus has been putting in 24 WHr batteries in their retail notebooks (s5ne) which are the reason for the low battery life.

According to Asus' site if you put a 72 WHr battery in an m5n you can get up to 7.9 hours. The Fujitsu S6210 should come with a 47.5 WHr battery.
I've looked at several retailers: Geared2Play, Proportable, Bixnet, and many others from the Asus website's "Where to Buy" page. All have listed the M5N's standard battery at 24 WHr and the extended battery at 72 WHr. But, go to Asus.com and punch up the M5N's Specifications page. In the Dimension & Weight section, you see this: 5.41 lb (with 24WHr battery pack and DVD/CDRW) -- that's heavier than the much bigger M3N! There goes the 3.4 lb. claim. How much more will it weigh with the 72 WHr battery?
post #15 of 43
Quote:
Originally Posted by jswriter
Decision made...ordering my Fujitsu S6210 from Portable One on Monday! It came down to the Asus M5N or the S6210. At less than 2 hours, the M5N's battery life blows. Also, a close examination of the specs revealed that the M5N weighs a little over 5 pounds when equipped with the CDRW/DVD drive and standard battery.
Congrats. I think the screen on the Fujitsu is also a huge advantage over the Asus.

However, the 5+ lbs. info on the Asus site is just a typo. It is actually 3.4 lbs. The 1.55kg (with 24WHr battery and optical drive) weight spec converts to 3.4 lbs. All other reviews I've seen agree with this number. 2 extra pounds is a huge difference that I think many reviewers would have noticed. Maybe you can find someone on the Fujitsu forum who can confirm this, but I'm pretty sure it's not over 5lbs.

Anyway, I think the Fujitsu is the best choice regardless.
post #16 of 43
You weren't lieing when you said that screen is glossy. I saw a similar model at Fry's today (very nice might i add) and that thing was almost like a mirror. Seems to add to that great build in my opinion, looks tougher.
post #17 of 43
Uh oh ...if the screen is mirror-like glossy, I might have to pass on the 6210. I tried HP's ZD7000 and its high-gloss screen was a big turn-off for me. It, too, felt like I was looking in a mirror and it drove me nuts. This really throws my decision a major curve ball.
post #18 of 43
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The glossiness is only a major factor if you're working outside in broad daylight. Even then, you won't notice it unless you're at an odd angle, or looking for it. I haven't had much time to use it outside, so I'm not really sure. Indoors its not a problem, unless you're sitting in front of a very bright light at the same level you are.

Think of it like using a CRT. Its somewhat similar.


As for the sturdiness, I started intensionally looking for weaknesses, since you guys were asking. The keyboard feels fine to me, generally. On the left side of the space bar it has an odd clicking thing and feels lighter than the other keys. If I press hard down on any key, the keyboard will "flex". But I'm sure if I press down on any laptop keyboard it will flex to a degree.

I was carrying it around the other day, just the laptop, and I notice the screen build was kind of thin. It almost felt a little hollow.

Anyways, those are the only negatives I can see about the build so far. Otherwise, its been perfectly fine. In fact, these couple of factors don't bother me much at all. You guys just wanted to know about it, so I looked for them :P


I've been using this laptop for more than half a week now. Its been wonderful. Fan only comes on when I come back from standby or when I boot, and that's only for a second or two. During normal use, I don't hear the fan at all. One issue, though, is when the fan runs at medium speed, I hear a sort of rattling sound. I don't knwo if that's normal or not. I'm going to email Ivan @ portableone about it.

Battery life is as advertised. I haven't done much stress testing of the system, but just surfing the web and whatnot, I get the 4-5 hours as advertised off the built in battery. I'm considering getting the secondary battery in the future. 9 hours of life (advertised)... that would be great! Its a bit expensive, though, so I may wait a while until I can justify spending another 150$ or so :P

charge time isn't too bad. I would say a couple hours for a full charge... although I haven't taken a watch to it or anything.

Loading programs is nice and speedy, no complaints.

Wireless is strong (or so I percieve). I have two unpassworded connections that touch my house that I assume are my neighbors. I can connect to both, although one is stronger than the other. If I keep my wireless on, it seems that the instant I unplug, I'm on my neighbors network :P Its convenient if I feel like sending an email from downstairs (unaccessable by my wire) really quickly
While I was on there once, I decided to do a quick bandwidth test:

got some nice results


Anyways, I'll report back with more stuff later, once I get to use the laptop more. I have yet to try the sound much, nor DVD playback.

If I have time, I'll try to take some pictures of the glossiness and see if those will represent what I see
post #19 of 43
It'd be great if you could post a few more pics of your screen, Ender. The two screen pics in your review didn't seem to show any glare, so I was surprised when someone mentioned the hi-gloss/glare factor. I was all set to pull the trigger on a S6210 before I read that.
post #20 of 43
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alright. I'll do it when I get home today from work (around 6pm PST) when the sun hasn't set yet Any specific environments to check? I'll do a couple shots outside, then a few inside with a bright light behind me. then a few in normal working conditions. I'll do some with a completely black screen (Where the glare is evident) and a few with programs running.
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