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post #1 of 12
5/9/03 at 1:28am
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I popped all the keys off my keyboard today and rearranged them to dvorak and got to wondering whether anyone sells these keyboards preconfigured for dvorak. Or maybe just a "u" and "h" key with bumps and "f" and "j" keys without bumps. Anyone know?
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post #2 of 12
5/9/03 at 3:03am
Pardon my ignorance, but why would you want to do such a thing?
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post #3 of 12
5/9/03 at 3:38am
yeah I'm too used to qwerty. Even those curved qwerty keyboards annoy me.


Old habits die hard.
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post #4 of 12
5/9/03 at 3:37pm
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The reason for making the switch is because I'm a programmer and spend a large part of my day(life) on the keyboard. Qwerty isn't really an efficient keyboard design, it was just designed to work. Dvorak, otoh, was designed after studying how people type English and trying to create the most efficient keyboard for that.

Dvorak will not increase your typing speed because that is cognitively limited; the bottleneck when you're typing isn't the keyboard. But because 70% of your typing is on the home row, you're getting more done with less effort. And that helps against Repetitive Stress Injury and the like.
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post #5 of 12
5/9/03 at 3:39pm
Cool; I learned something new today.

I thought his real name was John C. Dvorak....
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post #6 of 12
5/9/03 at 3:54pm
hi I have actually no idea where you could get the keys but I know there are differnet keyboards available for the sager.

I buy my as example with the german keyboard. Maybe you should ask sager direct.
Or search the web for spare parts.

I know, I am not a big helper here

Erik
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post #7 of 12
5/9/03 at 4:25pm
Can you elaborate as of how you can, at the same time, type something at the same speed but more efficiently? you mean it requires less mind concentration? or shorter fingers movement?

Please explain, it seems interesting.


Cheers.
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post #8 of 12
5/9/03 at 4:57pm
as far as I know it the keys are sorted in a way that your fingers don't have to move so much.

The regulat keyboard qwerty was designed back in the days with the old typwriters. At that time the typwriter was not fast enough. It means it takes time to move up these metal with the letter on it.
So they needed something to slow people down so that your typewriter don't get stuck.
So they developed qwerty. There the most comen used keys are far away from each other so it slows you down because your fingers have to move all the time.
Because it is so commen it is hard to switch to a new layout. I mean it would be time, since we have 3GHz LAPTOPS which can handle a lot of char's at once
But it is just to hard to get the hole industry to use a new more effient layout.

This is like when the US tried to switch to metric system. It failed! And that's why we have so much crap in the world! To many people use it because they are used to it and they don't wnat to switch. (my opinion!)

Erik
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post #9 of 12
5/9/03 at 6:03pm
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Technically, qwerty was designed to not get the keyboard stuck, but not by slowing typists down. The guy who made it looked at the mechanical linkages on his typewriter, and arranged the keys to reduce clashes. It sped people up for his keyboard, but that's it.

The way dvorak is more efficient is shorter finger movement. All the vowels and most used consonants are on the home row. For example, I can type sentences like "it is not the stunt hit" all on the home row.
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post #10 of 12
5/9/03 at 6:24pm
so can you type equally fast on either keyboard then? it seems like it'd be hard to learn to type in a new format, but maybe it's just like learning a new language and once you have it down you can switch easily...
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post #11 of 12
5/9/03 at 6:41pm
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Yes, but only because I regularly use both. If I didn't also type in qwerty occasionally I'd forget it. My speed before switching, in qwerty, was about 100wpm. It's gone down to about 60, but my dvorak speed is at around 100.
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post #12 of 12
5/10/03 at 12:48am
A little page about the world's fastest typer who uses dvorak:

http://sominfo.syr.edu/facstaff/dvorak/blackburn.html

Top speed: 212 wpm.
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