I hear ya' on that one, agentsim. 17' is just too big for my tastes in laptops. Plus, the much-ballyhooed Sager price advantage seems to decrease greatly if one adds all the high-gloss paint options to make its looks competitive with Alienware/Voodoo/other "high-priced" sellers. Not that there isn't still a bit of savings, but it becomes small enough to make the decision to go for a more "passionate" machine understandable.