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Will there be a M10 pro Mobility?

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I know the M10 Mobility release date is unknown, but my question is: Will they release a M10 Pro Mobility too? or simply the regular M10 version? Im asking because I've read that the desktop M10 Pro will have some nice overclocking possibilities.


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Re: Will there be a M10 pro Mobility?

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Originally posted by WTB
I know the M10 Mobility release date is unknown, but my question is: Will they release a M10 Pro Mobility too? or simply the regular M10 version? Im asking because I've read that the desktop M10 Pro will have some nice overclocking possibilities.


Cheers.
I think you're getting confused. "M10" is the codename for the 9600 mobility chip. The RV350 is the codename for the desktop 9600. With that said yes, there will be 2 versions of the M10. A regular version and a pro version (late summer) which will have a built in "auto-overclock" feature (called "overdrive" and is not found on the desktop version)

http://mirror.ati.com/technology/har...600/index.html
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http://www17.tomshardware.com/mobile...324/index.html
http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic...416/index.html

My theory is the MR9600(M10) and the 9600(RV350) are the some chip the vpu's are the same. MR9600 is software slowed, which will be easy to fix with powerstipe. They did the same to the R300 chip on the desktop. People crack 9500 pros to make them 9700 pros easily.

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The Mobility Radeon 9600 (codenamed M10) was not originally designed for the notebook. The GPU core is based on the RV350 (Radeon 9600), which is the new mainstream desktop product of the Canadian company. The MR9600 is therefore also produced using the 0.13-micron process, and it operates with a core voltage of only 1.0V, which, according to ATI, means that despite the higher chip clock of 350 MHz, it does not consume more energy than its predecessor, the M9. Before we list the relevant specs for the MR9600, we suggest that you take a look at our previous article on the Radeon 9600. Here, you can read about all the details of the new chip that will soon be used primarily in notebooks of the high-performance segment
Features of the MR9600:

DirectX9
Chip clock 300 MHz (MR9600 per 350 MHz)
Max. memory clock 300 MHz (MR9600 per GDDR-2M with 350 MHz max)
Theoretical pixel fillrate 1400 MPixel/s
Memory bandwidth 9600 MB/s
4 pixel pipelines (each with 3 pixel shader operations per clock signal, or a total of 12 pixel shader operations per clock signal)
2 vertex shader units
0.13-micron fabrication process
PixelShader 2.0 support, full floating point precision
VertexShader 2.0 support
6 FSAA (MultiSampling with gamma correction)
16x anisotropic filtering
HyperZ III (8:1 Z-compression)
Powerplay4 with Power-On-Demand:
Power management for the chip, which can be manually controlled by the user, or which can be defined according to the performance requirements of the application running.
Overdrive: automatic, dynamic "overclocking" of the chip (on-the-fly)
HDTV-Out
Support for Wide Aspect LCDs

And the features of the Radeon 9600 VPU (RV350) in summary:

DirectX 9;
~75 million transistors;
Four pixel pipelines (4x1 design);
Two vertex shader units;
0.13-micron manufacturing process;
128-bit DDR Memory (DDR-II ready);
Up to 128MB Memory;
SmartShader 2.0;
SmoothVision 2.1 (optimized FSAA, AA and memory controller; 6:1 color compression);
HyperZ III+ (8:1 Z-compression).

My money is on they are the same chip.
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Thread Starter 
So you can match thje Pro's performance with the regular 9600 by software tweaking it? I ask this because Im a harcore gamer, and Im waiting for the new GPUs to come. I dont mind waiting couple of months. However, the sooner I buy my lappy the better.


Cheers.
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Exactly WTB I am hoping the same thing of course this is all sepeculation. Lets keep our fingers crossed. Would love to see the MR9600 pro with clock speed at 400+Mhz and mem clock 300+ DDR2.
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Well if they were absolutely identical then the release dates don't make sense. The 9600 pro chips are shipping now for the desktop cards which would put actual availibility for end of this month into next. ATI has already stated that the mobile 9600 pro version won't be out til late summer. That puts it in the aug/sep timeframe.
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A while back, I looked at ATI's site and saw something that suggests that they are not the same chip. Desktop GPU uses .15 micron technology, but Mobility GPU uses .13 micron technology. Sounds like a different chip to me!
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Originally posted by Jahws
A while back, I looked at ATI's site and saw something that suggests that they are not the same chip. Desktop GPU uses .15 micron technology, but Mobility GPU uses .13 micron technology. Sounds like a different chip to me!
In this case the RV350 and M10 both use .13 micron technology.
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