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Is the XP upgrade more tempermental?

post #1 of 12
5/13/03 at 3:27pm
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Here is a tale of two computers. Can anyone tell me how it ends... or begins for that matter?
First lets introduce the characters:[list=1][*]A new 5670 with MS Office 2000 upgraded to XP[*]A new 5670 with XP Pro (Not upgrade version)[/list=1]

Will the upgraded character suffer in the harsh 1s and 0s software society because of its mixed ancestry? Or... will the upgraded version be just as comfortable a performer as its parthenogenic twin? ( Just incase you don't get it: will the upgraded OS have more stability problems than a new XP operating system? Keep in mind that in both cases I am going to be loading the operating system onto a brand new--previously unused--5670 hard drive. I ask only because my departmental computer guy--and friend-- suggested that the upgraded version of XP Pro can be a bit more temperamental than a brand new XP Pro.)

I know that there have been a number of previous threads in which the XP operating systems are disscussed. I read through them, but couldn't find an answer to this question. So, I am pretty sure this question is yet undiscussed here... of course I am human. We all know how that goes. Anyway, just for the future readers, I have put the links to other XP operating system discussions below. Enjoy

XP upgrade issues
should I get XP with my new sager
windows XP academic license
office XP question
XP home for $83.99
Os HELP!
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post #2 of 12
5/13/03 at 5:32pm
An upgrade is always less stable then a fresh full install. There are always left over files like, *.dll that can cause problems down the line.
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post #3 of 12
5/13/03 at 9:40pm
I would be ready to patch, patch, patch and patch again.

I still have nightmares from my upgrading win 3.1 to win 95!

If you have the option of doing a clean install, then that would be the best path. If you CAN"T then get your service packs for the OS and the office suite dowloaded and ready to use.
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post #4 of 12
5/14/03 at 11:02am
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I get the picture--upgrades are fussy. But... has anyone out there actually tried to upgrade to XP Pro from a clean install of win 2000? I would like to think microsoft has made the upgrade process more reliable over the years... let me emphasize "like to think". HA HA HA. If I can do this, it will save me the cost of a new XP Pro disk. It will also allow me to say that I have only ever had to pay microsoft once, since the upgrade is provided by the university.
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post #5 of 12
5/14/03 at 11:23am
Actually you should be able to just use the upgrade disk with a formatted drive and then it will say something to the effect of no previous version of windows installed please insert your win2k cd or something. Do that and then finish your install
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post #6 of 12
5/14/03 at 11:49am
If you can wait until the weekend I will find out for you what the drill is on the upgrade path.

I have fresh copies of XP Pro W2K and office 97 and Office XP.

I overloaded my hard drive on my desktop and I am going to a larger drive. 40 gig just wasn't big enough......

Lets see just what happens....now I'm curious!

I have done upgrades from one OS to another and gotten that famous SUWIN error that my version of the OS does not allow upgrades. And that was using the upgrade OS cd an a full clean copy of the OS as well.
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post #7 of 12
5/14/03 at 1:03pm
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Sounds great. I can wait. I am really curious as well. I recently upgraded an ME OS to XP Pro on a DELL desktop. I did a clean install of ME on a new 80gig hard drive, and upgraded to XP Pro immediately. The upgrade was seamless. Everything works perfectly so far, but then how could any operating system be worse than ME, right? The system is a bit slower at opening and closing programs than it was before the upgrade, but that could be due to the fact that XP uses twice as much memory as ME. The jury is still out on that one...

I just found this link in another thread, and it probably explains the slow down. I downloaded a security patch that I now need to remove.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...pcworld/110385
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post #8 of 12
5/25/03 at 3:11pm
Ok after a week delay due to a road trip this is what I have:

System : self built (Trigem "imperial" MB)
CPU: Celeron 2g
mem: 512meg
Video: Intel 845g chipset shared mem maxe to 64meg
Drive: Fujitsu 20g

NO OTHER SOFTWARE WAS INSTALLED. NO NETWORK SET UP.

Started out with Windows XP home for OS. Did clean install and let OS format drive to NTSF format

Installed system board drivers

Installed MS Office 97 (my copy of office 2000 "borrowed" by coworker) Coworker to be featured on milk carton............

Only hitch was in the USB drivers. OS did not reconzine the Intel chipset and had to dowload and install from Intel site.

Converted over to Windows XP Pro. I used the full version and it recognized the Home edition and prompted to upgrade. I just let the installation CD do its thing.

After the install was done the video settings were changed to 800x600. Prior to upgrade it was at 1024x728. Changed monitor settings and let system reboot.

System rebooted and audio driver was disabled. Reinstalled audio driver and rebooted. Sound driver issue corrected.

Next option was to install the Office XP Pro. This is full version. Dropped in CD. Program recoginzed the prior installation of Office 97. CD removed Office 97 and loaded Office XP Pro. Installation completed and system rebooted.

At reboot office toolbar failed to load. Went into program and had offcie toolbar load. Rebooted machine. On reboot Office toolbar came up.

Only issue in upgrade was the USB. video, and sound drivers from home version to pro version.

I did a quick run thru of the OS and Office. Did not see any problems with the upgrades.

Caution: All software is full OEM versions, I did NOT use any upgrade software from Microsoft. No Service Packs were dowloaded ore installed. This may cause other problems, but I cannot comment.

Hope this helps
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post #9 of 12
5/25/03 at 11:18pm
Excellent post, pcbunker. Great info.

-myrkat
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post #10 of 12
5/25/03 at 11:20pm
thanks myrkat!

will get back my copy of office 2000 and see how that works. Will do this tomorrow or monday and post the results
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post #11 of 12
5/26/03 at 3:07pm
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Thanks for posting PC.

The info is useful for me.

In followup to the slowing probem I had with opening and closing programs after upgrading to XP Pro from ME... I restored the system to a time point prior to the last MS security patch, and everything is much faster now... by at least 3X! This came as a suprise to be sure.
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post #12 of 12
5/27/03 at 1:22am
I have become Travis Bickle

The insominia continues.........................

I got my hands on my copy of office 2000 premium!

This is what happend:

Reformatted hard drive and reinstalled XP Home. This caused me to re-register my copy of XP with microsoft. Not a bad experience for a holiday weekend. Tech on phone actually sounded American

Once drive was reformatted and drivers reinstalled this is sequence:

Installed MS Office 2000 Premium. Installed all options on the 2 cd's. Rebooted and set up office toolbar. Ran the office programs to test for function. All was clear and well.

Next installed MS Office XP Professional. Install gave option to install or upgrade. Took upgrade option. Software deleted the Office 2000 and the registry keys and then installed itself. This is per the installation menu that the program runs at install time.

At end of install, machine was rebooted. Opened the office toolbar and added the office componets I wanted. Ran the office programs for function. All was clear and well.

As a footnote on Office 97, the Office XP did NOT give option for install or upgrade. XP Office just did upgrade.

All checks of BOTH office suites was quick function only. I did not do full Access or Powerpoint jobs to see if system would lock up. All software is full version and is OEM software.

I cannot vouch if you will get same results using upgrade software. If you use the upgrade software I cannot promise the same results.

Hope this helps

Tim
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