Why Pentium EXTREME EDITION - Page 2

A couple of forums ive been reading say theres not much heat problems with the Socket 939, but I don't know how big the heatsinks are and how fast the fans operate.....
But then I do see allot of leaning to either Pentium or AMD, I don't find that much middle-ground.

snippy.

You hurt my feelings man.

Buying a P4 EE chip is sure to satisfy your fleeting materialistic urge to consume products, ANY products, quickly. Guaranteed to cause pangs of regret the next morning when you wake up and think to yourself "I spent 800 bucks on this piece of crap???"

I bought mine as a long term investment. When it is time to upgrade the GPU I will swap the main board and or RAM but I will not have to buy a CPU for quite some time.
also the reason that it is so expensive it that lv2 cache is extreamly fast and equally expensive. It is much faster for the proc to page the cache than to RAM. So the more you have the better. I may not see the results of my "idiocy" now but as software becomes larger which it continually does the price of the extra cache will begin to show a result. Now you say to yourself you could have just waited for the price to deplete as more consumers purchase the product. My answer to that is you have to draw the line somewhere. When I buy a computer it is always top of the line at the time beacause 1. I am extreamly picky about performance. 2. Useable longevity of the product. So if I were to keep waiting for the next best component to be released I would never buy a computer.

So to summerize I purchased my EE as an investment in the future, my proc will perform and run games at an acceptable level for years to come. Mark my words, in less than 2 years large cache procs as the EE will be the norm both AMD and Intel. And unless the price of cache memmory depletes (which it may or may not as it is very high quality memmory that has to meet strict critira) you will be forced to pay a larger sum for your proc to keep with the growing needs of the sucessors to Doom 3 and the next gen engines.

Finally, your shouldn't call people names....it's not nice.

AMDFX is a desktop version of the Opteron with some stuff disabled. The first FX chips used the 940 pin socket same as the Opteron. The newer ones use the 939 socket and it doesn't need the special ram the the Opteron uses. The reason that there are no FX chips in notebooks was because of the socket issues. No one wanted to develop a 940 motherboard when AMD was going to 939 in the future. The Opteron has no heat issues. It runs cooler than the P4EE which is actually a Xenon.

The P4EE is a Xenon with stuff disabled. Intel needed to keep up with AMD so there you go. Quick and dirty solution which was suppose to give Intel bragging rights for the fastest processor but it is still inferior to the FX.

The premium for the FX isn't worth it. The premium for the P4EE definitely isn't worth it. The best most cost effective chip out there is the AMD64 3400+ which is just a hair away from the FX-3 benchmarks for almost half the price.

Why not Pentium EXTREME EDITION?

lol

That is if you like AMD. OOOOO here come the flames.

lol.... Are you saying that AMD gets hot???
WHAHAHAH
LIES LIES!

No, was talking about all the flamers that are about to destroy this thread.

Well Originally all these processors came out on desktops made for desktops.....
They had M-Processors or Mobile processors dedicated to doing Laptop processes.

But as you know technology gets faster, smaller, and cheaper; And you start to ask can I put one of these in a laptop?

Which bring up a question. Not that I would but could I take the Proc out of my lapppy and put it in my desktop? Are they exactly the same as desktop procs?

yes you can i did that to my 5670 it had a 3.0ghz CPU and slaped it in my desktop and it works like a charm. and ill do the same thing when i buy a new CPU ill put this 3.4 EE in my desktop when i get around to upgrading my laptop again.

Cool, thanks.

The Extreme Edition is based of the Northwood Core. It has the same L2 cache as and P4C Proccessor out there, being 512k. It's the addition of the L3 Cache at 2 MB that is new to the EE.
Cache will always be faster than RAM. The P4's long pipeline needs to stay fed with data. It doesn't have a very good memory controller. Meaning that there are many stalls along the way. To fill these gaps they have the massive cache of the EE which effectivly plugs the gaps.

I just can't stand to see inferior products be thought of as "great" seeing how AMD can deliver better performance for less money. If only they would offer a Socket 939 Laptop. Until they do I guess the EE is the best you can get for a laptop. If performance is the number 1 concern though get a desktop, and save the $$ you would have spend for the EE.

Sorry. I should have specified, mobile performance.

don't want to turn this into a my stuff is better than your stuff thread, just wanted to show that we have reasons for spending the 600+ on the proc while not everyone agree's with these reasons us EE owners are not "idiots".

I had a bad experince with AMD so I choose Intel, not to say that AMD procs are not good procs and surely are more cost effective, I just like Intel better.

As you said the EE is the best you can get in a laptop right now. Right now is when it is feasable for me to purchase a laptop so I bought the best available to me. Don't knock Intel too much the competition drives AMD harder to imporve the products and keep their prices down. Not to mention IMHO Intel make a very fast and most importantly stable proc.

My processor seems pretty stable. I got a good 5 years out of an amd. I do wish they would release the pentium update, like a pentium 5 or pentium 64.

Hey at least you didn't get a P4 sticker slapped onto yours. I'm serious.