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post #1 of 105
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Well after the long week of learning and experimenting, I finally finished Malone's heat mod. This allowed me to successfully get to 3442 on 3DMark03 without a hitch on an OC setting of 402 core/300 memory. (Temperature runs well no matter what the load)

Here are a few tips I found for those who are interested in heat modding their i8600 with the M10:

1) For the core, use a 3.1x3.1cmx1.5mm copper plate and there is no need for gluinig the plate down (it's a perfect fit )

2) Use .025 copper plating for the VRAM since 1.5mm .062 is too thick and will cause the computer not to boot

3) Do NOT overtighten the screws at all! Scared the crap out of me since if too much pressure is placed on the dye/vram the computer will not boot. Tighten only enough so that the screws are "snug" enough to not fall out

Hope these help out in some way!

This was an excellent site provided by Andrew/Malone on Notebookreview.com
http://www.bay-wolf.com/8500videoheat.htm

Well after testing for about 3 days now, it's running excellent with an average of 20 degrees F difference but even more significant when the GPU heats up. (Never goes above 175F)

Benchmarks i8600:
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http://www.students.niu.edu/~Z107528...600_bench.html
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Any thoughts or questions are welcomed and a many many thanks goes out to Evo, Noids, and Malone for helping me out!!

I originally did a picture tutorial but am deciding not to use it due to the bad quality of my great 6-year-old digital camera

I also gave it some thought about making 3.1x3.1 copper pieces for sale if people are interested. I spent some time (and stress getting there) to pick up 1.5mm copper and thought it might be useful for others too. Any comments are welcomed.

~GMCloud

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UPDATE! 8/5/04: For those who are interested in purchasing the copper plates needed to preform this mod, you can now purchase them from me at:

http://www.students.niu.edu/~Z107528/sales/

Hope this helps!
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post #2 of 105
Did you lap the copper plates?
post #3 of 105
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kingcow
Did you lap the copper plates?
Hopefully I get what you mean but I only used one layer of the .025 for the VRAM and one layer of .062 copper for the core. Cut then filed and cleaned. I did not add the extra piece of copper to connect to the heat pipe though although that could have been useful, I had no need for it.

~GMCloud
post #4 of 105
if you don't mind explaining...what exactly was the mod that you did and why were you doing it?
post #5 of 105
Thread Starter 
The mod was a heat modification to the i8600's ATI Radeon 9600 card. At stock settings and hardware, the GPU for the i86 runs HOT....I mean, real hot (mine hit ~200F)

What I did was use a copper plate (which if you wonder why dell didn't do this in the first place, it's cost....it's expensive) and replace the OEM thermal pads that connect the GPU's core to the casing (the casing is the metal that absorbs the heat and transfers it to the heat pipe and then to the fan) with copper. This dramatically decreases the temperature of the GPU and allows massive overclocking that is safe and still runs cooler than the stock hardware and settings.

~GMCloud
post #6 of 105
You forgot to mention who cut your copper for you
post #7 of 105
Thread Starter 
lol, thanks aero for the handywork
post #8 of 105
What is the dimension is the copper sheet for the ram? I did the GPU already i might go back do redo the ram
post #9 of 105
Quote:
Originally Posted by GMCloud27
Well after the long week of learning and experimenting, I finally finished Malone's heat mod. This allowed me to successfully get to 3442 on 3DMark03 without a hitch on an OC setting of 402 core/300 memory. (Temperature runs well no matter what the load)



hmm. I think I might go out and do this. Where did you get the copper from?

edit:

still in awe of your 3dmark03 score
post #10 of 105
let me also ask, is the copper plate for the vram glued in and the gpu plate glued in? cause that locktite glue, if that's the same glue i'm thinking of, will make it near impossible to take off the plate.
post #11 of 105
He mentioned it is not glued in, and I suggest the same. I did this mod in January to a friends i8500 and found the glue is unnessesary, it's more useful for just holding the plate in place while you screw it back together rather than as and essential part of the mod......

stu
post #12 of 105
Aw, shucks, I don't need that much credit
Thanks for the acknowledgement, though. That idea actually came from the website. I should do a tutorial for my tweaked version, but all I have is a webcam, and I don't want to leave my computer on while messing with it.
post #13 of 105
Hey GM, good work, I am glad to see you were successful. I am extremely interested in getting those pieces if you are able to send them to Australia. ( I am assuming you are in the US). I have tried online metals and they charge US$80+ for postage for a US$3 Copper plate. I have been unable to source the pieces locally however, so if I can find a reasonably priced method of transport, I will definitely be interested in buying the pieces.

I have had success OCing to the levels you mentioned and managed to jag myself a stable 3500+ 3dmark , but as you mentioned the GPU tends to overheat (although no more than during extended 3d gaming sessions at normal levels). If I can keep the GPU cooler however, I may be able to squeeze a little more out of it...

Anyway, if you are interested in sending the copper OS, then let me know.

Cheers
post #14 of 105
I did 1.25mm should be thick enough. I am using 1mm and it is fine.
post #15 of 105
Thread Starter 
Sorry about the delay guys, I'm surprised my notifications didn't come on....:/

The VRAM dimensions are 5.5x.1.5cmx.025in (would have done the conversions but thought that'd work) and was not glued at all. It stayed in place perfectly and with just enough AS5 to stay firm.

The copper plate I purchased from a bulk copper manufacturing plant in chicago (LONG drive....lol) and the .025 i bought at a local store. Noids I sent you a PM also--That's a heck of a lot of postage for a piece of metal, lol.

~GMCloud
post #16 of 105
Damn I get 3600 out of my stock M9700 (445/265) I can o'clock the thing to 499/290 with almost no prob except more heat... can you do the same for this card you think???

Just my $.02
post #17 of 105
Thread Starter 
Spike CYPM. Whackamac, let me check with Aero737 (he's got a i9100) and he knows his machine a bit better than I do. (He just put some pics up too of every component of his comp so I'll take a look)

~GMCloud

Edit: Been606 and Noids CYPM/e-mail also. I'll hopefully have some more info for you in a bit.
post #18 of 105
cool any info would be great!!!
post #19 of 105
Hey, I worked closely with GMCloud on this and I have been thinking of doing something similar in my i9100.

The only problem I have run into thus far is the fact that I don't have a torques wrench small enough (I need either a t-6 or a t-8) to take the heatsink and plate off the acuall card.

I plan to go out this afternoon and see if I can purchase one. If I do, I will try to take it apart and tell ya if we have the infamous 'dell heat transfer pad' that our friends with the 8600 have.
post #20 of 105
Quote:
Originally Posted by GMCloud27
Sorry about the delay guys, I'm surprised my notifications didn't come on....:/

The VRAM dimensions are 5.5x.1.5cmx.062in (would have done the conversions but thought that'd work) and was not glued at all. It stayed in place perfectly and with just enough AS5 to stay firm.

The copper plate I purchased from a bulk copper manufacturing plant in chicago (LONG drive....lol) and the .025 i bought at a local store. Noids I sent you a PM also--That's a heck of a lot of postage for a piece of metal, lol.

~GMCloud

U sure it is 0.062in for the ram sink? that is would be equal to 1.5748 mm
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