PCI-Express & MR9800 might take longer then expected. - Page 4

well I have a different take.

Reading between the lines perhaps a bit too much, what I see is a 9800 part that is more of a Desktop part that's been shrunk a bit to fit into a laptop type form factor. A part that is way too hot and eats way much battery life.

Read the tomshwardware review again.

This isn't a real true next generation LAPTOP part but some half-assed effort for those of you who occasionally go to your parents house or want to surf the web from Starbucks but not for the rest of us who travel on an airplane and get stuck in thunderstorms, etc. If that's what you need then fine (no judgement attached though I'm being slightly sarcastic to make a point.)

I don't think the next real true generation actual LAPTOP part comes until the post 9800 wave.

So the folks who are voting for 1st quarter 2005 I think are right on.

by the way it is PCI-E, PCI-X is slot on servers, not PCI Express

It was a typo, plus this keyboard is going bad. I know some of my other post must have the same mistake. I'll have to switch the keyboard. The earlier mistakes were typing errors and this bum keyboard. I'll hit the keys harder to insure no more mistakes.

the one I configured was a dell xps...i didnt try the 9100...that's a much better price, i'm not sure what the differences (other than shape) are between 9100 and xps..i'd imagine weight, or maybe heat dissipation, etc....the 9100 probably wasnt meant for all those goodies....just a guess..

I too emailed Sager and this is what I got:

In response to your question regarding the availability of the MR9800 in Sager laptops, the short answer is the company is still evaluating whether to use the MR9800 in its products.



With the introduction of the New PCI-Express form factor in 2003, Sager has concentrated its design in that direction instead of video module design based on the AGP Bus. As of now we are still on schedule with our plans to release the first series of laptops based on PCI-Express by the end of fourth quarter 2004. Also, the MR9800 is not exactly pin-to-pin compatible and has increased power consumption demands over previous versions. For those reasons, no final decision has been made on offering the MR9800. As more information becomes available, we will send out announcements to our licensed resellers





The NP4790 does not have a modular design so a swap upgrade of the GPU will not be possible.





Thank you,


I also emailed Eurocom, I figure their in bed with the Clevo and Sager so...:

Radeon 9800 is old technology so we are not planning to support this in new models – it’s based on AGP

We are moving to PCI Express in all of new models


All I can say is that they both seem to be mulling over it because of PCI-Express coming soon. It is obviously possible for them to implement because if it weren't, there would be no mulling at all. On that note, if you would like to see Sager offer a MR9800 in their notebooks email them just like I did. It will help get the message accross!

email them @: Sager Tech Supports [TechSupport@SagerNotebook.com]

Its just like I said in other posts..I really dont think Sager/Clevo is going to come up with an upgrade..their fucased on the next generation notebooks which are far cheaper for them to produced and highly waited for by everyone else..There has never been any guarentee that Sager would offer an upgrade as the next model comes out.. Now it seems their moviing past the old format and into PCIE...I just wish we had a better date aside from before the end of the year....but there you have it from the horses mouth..PCIE should be out within 4 months..The ability to upgrade just the gpu is really really appealing..

and you know what that means....? it means a lot of people are interested in MR9800. If a Sager guy is looking at this he should realize that we want it....so give it to us....my.....preciousssss.

I like the fact that Sager is going into PCIE. That means we get better laptops sooner. I would rather have an upgradeable graphics solution. That is good news to hear.

You can get it around $2300 if you do it with the right offers with the 20% off rebate on top of that. Right now their 2nd days is only $4 etc etc etc. You just have to pay attention to it is all. I was able to configure a 9100 before the 9800 came out to about $2000 with shipping and tax. Only down fall on the Dells is the thickness other wise I would've probably bought one by now. I am debating on a Sager and I wanted the 4750, but I think I am just going to wait until January of nexy year for what laptop. I normally don't buy games as as they come out so I'll probably wait on a price drop on Doom3 even if it is several months away.

you can wait on a price drop....or you can download it...I got the all 3 cds off of IRC in 5 hours!

As for people caliming P4 is better for the games, they are so wrong. The AMD Atholon 64 3400 and up beats the 3.2 GHZ P4 EE.

This story is about desktop hardware, but I think notebooks will use a version of the 915 too.

Intel 915 doesn't work with some PCI Express cards