Why is it that in all movies, and in all tv shows, they always show people using apple? My friend was saying it was a conspiracy theory, saying that windows is much more popular, they want apple to gain intrest. What do you think?
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yeah, same deal as why in the Supranos they only use Motorola cell phones, they made a deal with the producers and HBO that the phones can be in the show under 1 condition, nobody will get hit over the head with one. I'd agree on the "status" thing a bit too, my best friend is a bi who's brother is gay and believe it or not he had to take out a major loan to buy him and his boyfriend each a Powerbook (now he is buying a new one and giving the G4 Powerbook to my best friend). Long story short, umm,
oh and btw, they live in the section of downtown chicago where all the overprivilaged college kids live. He likes to think of himself as a computer wizard or at least, he likes to think how to take care of a computer, well...if he knew that much...he wouldn't have had a $8000 loan to pay off to Apple.
oh and btw, they live in the section of downtown chicago where all the overprivilaged college kids live. He likes to think of himself as a computer wizard or at least, he likes to think how to take care of a computer, well...if he knew that much...he wouldn't have had a $8000 loan to pay off to Apple.
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yeah, same deal as why in the Supranos they only use Motorola cell phones, they made a deal with the producers and HBO that the phones can be in the show under 1 condition, nobody will get hit over the head with one. I'd agree on the "status" thing a bit too, my best friend is a bi who's brother is gay and believe it or not he had to take out a major loan to buy him and his boyfriend each a Powerbook (now he is buying a new one and giving the G4 Powerbook to my best friend). Long story short, umm,
oh and btw, they live in the section of downtown chicago where all the overprivilaged college kids live. He likes to think of himself as a computer wizard or at least, he likes to think how to take care of a computer, well...if he knew that much...he wouldn't have had a $8000 loan to pay off to Apple. |
And the fact that your best friend is bi with a gay brother means, what, exactly?
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8/3/04 at 2:19pm
Yeah, god forbid you have hardware which actually works. God forbid, if anything goes wrong, you only have to call one company. God forbid you don't have to deal with the AMD v Intel wars. God forbid you get a system with an operating system immune to viruses, and can compile and run any Linux compatible open source program.
Yeah, those Apple users are in a world of hurt, I'll tell you what.
I'm not an Apple user, but I happen to know that a person chooses a machine based on what they need it for, and personal preference. Hey, I know people who still who Amiga computers. They run fine, they have software and hardware support, so why shouldn't they be able to use what they want?
But can you taste the irony? You claim all Apple users are rich and elitists. The truth is, Apple's cost about the same amount as a standard Dothan laptop, and half the price of a standard Hypersonic or Voodoo laptop. But they're still elitists. Apple users, who don't push that Mac OS is better than Windows, nor that Macs should rule the world, nor that PCs are just plain stupid to buy. Can you taste the irony?
Yeah, those Apple users are in a world of hurt, I'll tell you what.

I'm not an Apple user, but I happen to know that a person chooses a machine based on what they need it for, and personal preference. Hey, I know people who still who Amiga computers. They run fine, they have software and hardware support, so why shouldn't they be able to use what they want?
But can you taste the irony? You claim all Apple users are rich and elitists. The truth is, Apple's cost about the same amount as a standard Dothan laptop, and half the price of a standard Hypersonic or Voodoo laptop. But they're still elitists. Apple users, who don't push that Mac OS is better than Windows, nor that Macs should rule the world, nor that PCs are just plain stupid to buy. Can you taste the irony?

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8/3/04 at 2:30pm
The reason is actually very simple, the Apple computer line is viewed as an "artist's machine." That's one fo the ways Apple pushes it. That, and they act as if it is something elite.
As an editor, I work on both platforms but there are plenty of people in this industry that are only Macintosh users. Sit them infront of Windows or Linux and they stick their noses in the air. After all, nothing's better than a Mac...
Both PC/Mac machines are good. Everyone's got a preference, but this isn't the place to argue that(trust me, there are way too many sites about why PCs/Macs suck). I also think the Macs are WAY overpriced compared to the PC.
But to get back to your questions, it's all about appearance. And a Mac gives off the appearance of being an Artist and having somethign Elite...
Personally, I think it's all bullsh*t. Computers are just tools.
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As an editor, I work on both platforms but there are plenty of people in this industry that are only Macintosh users. Sit them infront of Windows or Linux and they stick their noses in the air. After all, nothing's better than a Mac...
Both PC/Mac machines are good. Everyone's got a preference, but this isn't the place to argue that(trust me, there are way too many sites about why PCs/Macs suck). I also think the Macs are WAY overpriced compared to the PC.
But to get back to your questions, it's all about appearance. And a Mac gives off the appearance of being an Artist and having somethign Elite...
Personally, I think it's all bullsh*t. Computers are just tools.
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It's been like that for a while: Cube and early iMac on Drew Carey, Ti Powerbooks on West Wing, and Cinema Displays everywhere. I think 50% of the reasoning is simple design (the fine lines of Apples really work well in a shot.) The other 50% has to do with the fact that a large amount of set designers, film/tv editors, audio editors, etc. are Mac users. (Avid has really sunk under the weight of Final Cut Pro in the last few years.)
Nychold is right. Apples are no longer any more expensive than their true PC counterpart: Sony.
I use both OS's regularly, and I can say XP Pro and OS 10.3 are both solid operating systems. (At the end of the day, however, I don't have to worry as much about stability and viruses with my Macs.) Both groups of users, however, seem to have old-school visions of the "opponent's" platform. For example:
"Windows gives you the blue screen of death all the time." - A Mac User (Not really true any longer. Can't remember the last time Windows just crapped out altogether.)
"Macs are slower than PCs. They suck for graphics." - A Windows User (Equally untrue. Many of your games are designed on Macs, many of your films are edited on Macs, and most of the special effects you see are composited on Macs. The G5 in the office will kick hell out of the Athlons and P4s in the office when doing anything involving video.)
Nychold is right. Apples are no longer any more expensive than their true PC counterpart: Sony.
I use both OS's regularly, and I can say XP Pro and OS 10.3 are both solid operating systems. (At the end of the day, however, I don't have to worry as much about stability and viruses with my Macs.) Both groups of users, however, seem to have old-school visions of the "opponent's" platform. For example:
"Windows gives you the blue screen of death all the time." - A Mac User (Not really true any longer. Can't remember the last time Windows just crapped out altogether.)
"Macs are slower than PCs. They suck for graphics." - A Windows User (Equally untrue. Many of your games are designed on Macs, many of your films are edited on Macs, and most of the special effects you see are composited on Macs. The G5 in the office will kick hell out of the Athlons and P4s in the office when doing anything involving video.)
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8/3/04 at 2:46pm
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God forbid you get a system with an operating system immune to viruses,
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Mac's are not immune by far. Mac doesnt support VBScript, which will weed out many of the common viruses. And there aren't a ton of people using Mac's so it isn't "cost/time effective" to write viruses that will hit only a hand full of people. But there are Mac Viruses out there, and there will be more in the future.
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It's been like that for a while: Cube and early iMac on Drew Carey, Ti Powerbooks on West Wing, and Cinema Displays everywhere.
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I worked on several TV Shows including The Pretender and Freakylinks where we had to insert the new macs into the shows. It was annoying, and frankly lame.
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I think 50% of the reasoning is simple design (the fine lines of Apples really work well in a shot.) The other 50% has to do with the fact that a large amount of set designers, film/tv editors, audio editors, etc. are Mac users. (Avid has really sunk under the weight of Final Cut Pro in the last few years.)
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Nychold is right. Apples are no longer any more expensive than their true PC counterpart: Sony.
I use both OS's regularly, and I can say XP Pro and OS 10.3 are both solid operating systems. (At the end of the day, however, I don't have to worry as much about stability and viruses with my Macs.) |
And absoultely the PC has more viruses, that's what it gets for being the market leader, more people take shots at it. Both systems crash, I can get OSX and WinXP to die if I want to.
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Both groups of users, however, seem to have old-school visions of the "opponent's" platform. For example:
"Windows gives you the blue screen of death all the time." - A Mac User (Not really true any longer. Can't remember the last time Windows just crapped out altogether.) "Macs are slower than PCs. They suck for graphics." - A Windows User (Equally untrue. Many of your games are designed on Macs, many of your films are edited on Macs, and most of the special effects you see are composited on Macs. The G5 in the office will kick hell out of the Athlons and P4s in the office when doing anything involving video.) |
Second - Most special effects systems are run unsing Linux. It's the fastest OS out there. Not to mention, the Athlon 64 dual config is easily fater than the dual G5. At least in my experience...
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8/3/04 at 3:11pm
the whole imunity thing is BS, it really is. The only reason why windows users suffer more is because it is 90% of the world that that virus works on, so it makes sence to write it. But, if the mac platform starts to gain popularity again (like it did in the early 80s) the number of viruses will grow as well. Same is true for linux, although today a linux user doesn't have to worry much about spyware and viruses, but if OpenSource get's its way and the MS monopoly will go to hell, hello "made for linux" virus attacK!
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So I wrote this whole long rant about how apple computers ARE more expensive (which they are, unless you get a 2.0ghz Dothan, hardly comparable to the 1.33ghz g4) and how apple users ARE always crying about how great their OS is (even though apple steals software ideas from small software companies) and how no one writes apple viruses because the market share is under 4%.
Then I realized that Apple users just close their minds anyway to anything that doesn't issue from Steve Jobs' mouth. So, go ahead, buy your Apple laptop with it's 4200rpm hard drive, slow processor and 90 days of phone support for $2000. (You could upgrade it for roughly 120% more per item than PCs) Because I'm sure all the apple users are doing video editing (see 4200rpm hard drive) and compiling Linux programs, not just using it for email and surfing. Then take your cool laptop to work and put it away, because it doesn't work with anything at your workplace. Then grab your windows box for gaming, because only 1 out of 20 new games has an apple port.
But at least your apple won't get viruses (PCs don't either, with a decent anti-virus). And there's only one choice for you for hardware and software, because we wouldn't want to confuse you with....choices.
Then I realized that Apple users just close their minds anyway to anything that doesn't issue from Steve Jobs' mouth. So, go ahead, buy your Apple laptop with it's 4200rpm hard drive, slow processor and 90 days of phone support for $2000. (You could upgrade it for roughly 120% more per item than PCs) Because I'm sure all the apple users are doing video editing (see 4200rpm hard drive) and compiling Linux programs, not just using it for email and surfing. Then take your cool laptop to work and put it away, because it doesn't work with anything at your workplace. Then grab your windows box for gaming, because only 1 out of 20 new games has an apple port.
But at least your apple won't get viruses (PCs don't either, with a decent anti-virus). And there's only one choice for you for hardware and software, because we wouldn't want to confuse you with....choices.
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So I wrote this whole long rant about how apple computers ARE more expensive (which they are, unless you get a 2.0ghz Dothan, hardly comparable to the 1.33ghz g4) and how apple users ARE always crying about how great their OS is (even though apple steals software ideas from small software companies) and how no one writes apple viruses because the market share is under 4%.
Then I realized that Apple users just close their minds anyway to anything that doesn't issue from Steve Jobs' mouth. So, go ahead, buy your Apple laptop with it's 4200rpm hard drive, slow processor and 90 days of phone support for $2000. (You could upgrade it for roughly 120% more per item than PCs) Because I'm sure all the apple users are doing video editing (see 4200rpm hard drive) and compiling Linux programs, not just using it for email and surfing. Then take your cool laptop to work and put it away, because it doesn't work with anything at your workplace. Then grab your windows box for gaming, because only 1 out of 20 new games has an apple port. But at least your apple won't get viruses (PCs don't either, with a decent anti-virus). And there's only one choice for you for hardware and software, because we wouldn't want to confuse you with....choices. |
Amen. Well said.
Just want to add one thing. I've owned a copy of Windows XP Pro since the very first day it hit the market. The only time XP has blue screened on me was when I was running it on Virtual PC 5 on my Powerbook, how ironic eh. Which I can't really remember, but was either a blue screen, or it just crashed Virtual PC.
I can also say that I have never gotten a virus since using XP Pro, at least one that hit my computer and did any damage. I remember getting a few script virii' when running mIRC, but they were found either before hitting my comp, or the very moment it did. As for spy-ware and ad-ware, well if your using IE, then you deserve it. I get very very very little spy-ware since I use Mozilla FireFox, and the rare time I do get spyware its usually just a tracking cookie or something insignificant.
Mac's are underperforming and overpriced, but they do look great. And as we all know, there are at least 10 actors/actresses in hollywood that I can think of right off the top of my head who can't act. But they have jobs because they're sexy and cool. Apple fits in perfectly in Hollywood.
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Jesus, the poster asked about how come you always see Mac's in movies and TV (Sometimes I wonder, I always thought since windows was so huge, it would be nice to show something else, plus they do look better than PC's). Now this topic has turned into an another war about Mac's vs. PC. Give it a rest honestly.
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