Why always Apple in movies? - Page 2

If someone was to go in any of the Mac forums and talk about the advantages PC's have over Mac's, they would get flamed to hell and back again.

At least here we are arguing things like adults, I don't see any flaming going on, people just make points on one side or the other. Everyone has an opinion, and everyone should. I don't get why people get upset when discussions take place in forums, as long as there isn't any serious flaming going on, its going to happen.

thats not true. most of the time you see a mac then the logo is covered by a sticker.

i was watching desperate housewives and in one scene a dude had a powerbook g4 with a sticker on the logo and in the next a daughter had an ibook. so the reason they were on screen is probably due to cast/director/producers preference.

plus, if you go around hollywood then its hard to believe apple only has a 2% market share. out there it seems like its about 75% mac users. those hollywood types cant pick the right spouses but they sure can pick a good computer.

lol no, they pick a cute and 'popular' computer, most don't know a damn thing about computers.

read this, it's pretty funny:
http://www.wired.com/news/mac/0,2125...w=wn_5culthead

Classic Mac attack advertising.

i saw Desperate Housewives too (guilty pleasure) and actually rewound the ol' Tivo to check on the notebook the daughter had - you couldn't tell, but looked like a covered up apple logo. Probably because they actually hadn't paid for placement.

That said, if you do see the logo, it IS paid for, no doubt.

Actually PCs are better for video editing. With the right software they are better than Macs. Also, if games were made on Macs how come Macs can't play most of the games out there?

sorry to break this to you but the original poster was right, a game doesnt havta be designed or even coded in the OS its going to run in, and most of the time they arent.

what makes you think that? i've done quite a lot of video editing on my pc, and i'll be the first to admit that my pc was pretty much maxed out

Platform Classifications.

Bottom line. Mac's are better than pc's in the printing/graphic industries.
The name Macintosh symbolizes professionalism.

Windows are better than macs in price, making it one of the commonly purchased platforms. It is also the reason many companys also sell the OS with thier system, be it entertainment, or office life.
The name Microsoft symbolizes entertainment, family, and easy to use.

Go to your local print shop and see what platform the receptionest is using.
Windows: Used for basic Purchasing Order Applications
Move to the inhouse graphics, and you'll see:
Macs: Greater screen size, professionalism, and artistic accents in the office.

I've now said my peace

Missed this comment the first time around...

I will take my 90 days of American based technical support over the typical 90 days of free support from someone in India.

I have nothing wrong with the people in India doing these jobs. I do however have a problem with the outsourcing process. It in most cases the oursourcing means you are talking to a person with far less training, and possibly no hands on training of the product you own. I saw this in my own support arena on a certain companies servers. I got 9 weeks of full hands on training on the product line and software, plus updated training on newer products when they came out. The outsourcers hired to take our jobs got two weeks of training, with hands on consisting of seeing one or two server models.

Sorry to continue the off topic discussion a bit more, but I find no penny of what I spent on my Apple laptop wasted. And that includes the awesome support I have gotten from the company and their repair centers.

heck yeah i'll take 90 days of phone support. hell w/ all the tech pros in here, u should know that if u can't get to know your OS in 3 months uget what u deserve. ok well i admit, that's just an techie elitist comment that is brandless.

coffee,
u own a shop right? now granted, u may not like to provide all the service and support of the machines u sell (perhaps particularly to noobs ), but the fact that someone living nearby can actually come into your shop and ask YOU what's up w/ their machine is a good thing for them. granted apple stores are not in every major city, but if u buy an hp zd8000000000 from bestbuy/compusa/etc, u sure as hell can't walk in there w/ your computer and ask for help w/o a per diem or long term service fee as well as signing your computer over to them for diagnosis. me? i have a PC problem, i fix it. if i do happen to run into a Mac problem that i can't or don't know how to fix and it's inside the standard 1 year warranty, i drive 5 miles to the apple store (having set up an appointment ahead of time) and sit down with a tech (i'm not so sure about the genius claim, heheh), free of charge to have it looked at and talked to IN PERSON about the issue at hand. yeah, all those inexpensive PC shops and major OEMs do that right? along w/ free classes for noobs to get accustomed to the OS right? (this kind of support makes the whole 90 days of phone support kind of moot IMO). as noted apple's retail presence is now limited, but as it grows so will access to this kind of support. for whatever reason, dell has been tops in customer support satisfaction for years on end. this past year? apple. the other PC company that tried retail and has been struggling for a while? gateway. the other PC OEM that has retail locations and tech support in store, whose tech innovations are gaining mindshare and stock value besides apple?... yeh, must be bc everyone's so fleeced by the glitz of it all.

others r right this could be debated ad infinitum. as happens in these discussions, blanket statements take over. all macs are not overpriced, some are.

all i know is my ibook cost me $899 +$68 for 512MB of extra RAM. i also know that when i encode a 20GB RAW DV file to my file type of choice on my lowly and outdated 1.2Ghz G4, before putting in the 7k60, i could multitask like an OS X pimp b!tchslapping his 15 XP Ho's, that didn't put out the way they should have. i wasn't looking for it and sure as hell wasn't expecting it, but there it was. no waiting for a different app to pop up, no waiting for the next window to be redrawn, just being able to check my email, write a paper, listen to itunes, drag and drop files into an iDVD project, apply filters to photoshop images, and so on. yeah man, i feel ripped off. they fooled me into buying this expensive POS! god!!! and if i buy the 3 year coverage it'll all come to $1100!!! lmao

perhaps the caveat to apple's tech is that i do think they are too proprietary with it. i can do everything i mentioned above using a standard quicktime pro export, but it takes its sweet time (6-10hrs. not that a divx conversion will go any faster on my PC w/ any degree of features turned on. and windows media encoding? yikes.). if i do the same thing using compressor, a conversion app which is a part of dvd studio pro 3, it gets done in 2.5hrs. ( as far as i know it's a single pass run, and it comes out sharper at the same bit rate then i can do on my PC w/ 2 passes) that's some heavy optimization for their big $ pay to play software. but to say that big $ PC based video apps are not optimized for their respective intel/amd platform would be a lie too.

btw, my desktop:
- athlon xp 3200+
- 512MB DDR 400 dual channel RAM
- MSI nForce 2 Ultra Mobo
- 160GB WD JB 8MB cache
- 80GB WD JB 8MB cache
- 250GB Maxtor maxline III, 16MB cache.
---This drive flies and finally got me to a 50 second OS load (3 weeks fresh) with initalization for NIS and all apps completed.

my paltry 1.2Ghz iBook loads a ~2GB+ OS in the same time. go figure. i'm sorry guys, i gotta go... need to slap my ibook around for being so outdated and underperforming. i'll call it names and tell it that it's no good and i'll drop it like a bad habit the second the G5 or dual core PM lappies come along. if it didn't have such a cheap "floating" hard drive suspension device w/ rubber cushions and no direct soldered connection to the motherboard maybe i'd try and beat it silly till the hard drive went out. those cheap over pricing apple bastards robbed me of my chance to show my apple how despicable it is! gah!!!

yep, i'm just a brainwashed mac-fan who knows nothing about PCs. u think maybe terri hatcher will pose w/ one (apple) in playboy? <crossing fingers>

i know 90 days is enough for you, triadone, but you know it's not enough for most, especially actors and such

all of our local apple shops closed up. i think there is still one local repair place, though, not sure. Definitely none that allow any kind of service like you describe. what are you, in apple heaven?

and no, you can't walk in anywhere in this forsaken valley and get free help. of course, no apple shop = no local support either. i think las vegas has one, that's only 6 hours away...

i'm with you on the teri hatcher thing. or any other actress, with any other computer

werd

lol... anybody see "youve got mail" ? my girlfriend forced me to watch it or i would be shot. lol. In that movie you have in absolute that companies pay to have their product advertised in movies. It is so freakin obvious that these companies used this movie to advertise... especially when it concerns 'email'. Meg Ryan used her mac and tom hanks used his wintel (was it a thinkpad??? dont know but will NOT rewatch it ..ughhh lol).

Has anyone seen the series "The Corporation" ?? how advertising is becomming more 'clever' and/or 'subconscious' in the way they advertise. Trying to show products integrated into a persons lifestyle.. so when you see it in tv.. then you want it in your home too.. just like what you saw.

I guess Apple did design their OS and hardware to be stylish simply for an advertising punch over the 'tool' that other windows machines are. That way they can put it in movies etc... and have effective advertising.

In Australia we have this show called 'Rove Live'.. lol.. he (Rove) has a 17" pb on his desk... he hase NEVER EVER used it lol... but it is there for people to see.. and when he is sitting in a different position they actually turn the PB around so that its emblem is showing on screen. subtle advertising.

but hey... good on them for being clever!!

cheers.

why do most of you people think that whoever choose a mac is a complete idiot who doesnt know anything about windows? i never used a mac but i hear good stuff from people who switched and who uses both mac and windows..most of the time at atleast.

this is not strictly apple, but in the movie "American Treasure" if you notice, the government uses Dell computers....every single rig is a black dell with fat blue "DELL" written accross. If you have the money....you have the airtime.

Now on the topic of apple: all those music videos where skimpy-dressed girls are dancing around with white ipods in a black (night) background, they are hard to miss...so horney little teenage boys go out and buy them

another reason why apple is always in movies because film makers usualy use macs personally to edit their movies. macs are the standard for film, it has been for a decade now. apple has always supported the indepenent film world and hollywood. so its not ALL product placement.

So why don't you have an iPod then?

because i don't care for main-stream (and hiphop) music.
because i don't watch tv much at all
and because i was smart enough to buy a superior product, not superior advertising

Right.... superior product. The anti-apple posts continue.

With all due respect to everyone - platform wars are a waste of time and bandwidth - put it back in your pants...

As a long time Mac user, (and a PC user) there's no reason to bicker over it - they're just tools! As for the reason Macs are so often found in movies, IMO, it's both "product placement" as others mentioned, as well as Macs have a definite "edge" in the longtime arts-based community - they are often used for video editing (FCP) as well as rendering (FX etc.) by the "head honcho's" on set, and within the corporate ranks, as well as have the "sex appeal" few other laptops have.

Bottom line - both platforms have their strengths: most computer purchases should be based on the OS you prefer, and the software you require (to work, or for some others, for play) - in any case, people should decide what they purchase not because "X outperforms Y", or "Z is overpriced" - any human with half a brain can understand they can purchase whatever they want - some like apples, other's like oranges - stop comparing them - they both work!

BTW - seeing this is an APPLE discussion zone within this forum, please don't take the PC vs. Apple stance - it's already old - move on...

Peace,

N. Jay Burr
PlugHead Productions

because they look cool that's the reason most of the time IMO
whenever i see a powerbook i also see a sticker to hide the logo