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post #181 of 500
Yeah, I'm just wondernig if anything thinks AW will come out with a ati 9800 256mb card for the 766? On the AW forums, one of the AW reps said that it was "being worked on." Anyhow have any idea how far this really goes? I'm thinking about emailing a couple people from tech support and cust support to try to get more concrete answers, because they seem to like to dance around this question a lot. That's what is giving me my doubts about the whole issue. I just wish I had something beyond the current card I have (GeForce Go 5700). One other thing, I heard that the ati 9700 was better than the GeForce Go 5700 (AW tech told me that). Is it, and is it a *MAJOR* difference in FPS etc? Or are we talking only a minimal performance boost? I'm still looking around the forums for these answers, but if anyone can shed some light I'd appreciate it. Thanks
post #182 of 500
Well, AW is supposidly working on testing the 5500 with the ATI 9800 but i don't think anyone knows if this is really going to happen... only time will tell.
post #183 of 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by mknewman
What is the "Required Motherboard Modification" they talk about on the first one? Mine is a 40A5 so I will need it.

Marc
Don't need it anymore. Alienware now sells two versions of the 9700 module, one of them working with the A5.

http://www.alienware.com/GearShop_Pa...spx?CatId=1188
post #184 of 500
I can't believe I missed this thread...

Why on earth are you guys pissed at AW about the 9800 situation?

This is a demonstration of what I always talk about, Dell's use of buying power to crap on all of us involved in gaming.

It is not AW's fault that Dell used their buying power to get an exclusive on the 9800, and had ATi wire it funky so it would work only on one of their crappy motherboards.

Dell simply can't compete on a level playing field, so they make these exclusive deals with hardware manufacturers so everyone else is screwed.

ATi has no choice but to comply when this type of situation comes up. Why on earth would ATi choose to put their latest vid card in an underperforming unit like the iXPS unless Dell threatened them with not buying any more of their product if they don't give Dell an exclusive.

Alienware is not a hardware manufacturer, nor do they have the money to have custom motherboards built to work with the 9800. They're doing what they can, and if anyone can get this figured out, it's AW.

Bottom line, Dell is bad for the computer industry, and bad for gamers. They're the proverbial 800 pound gorilla, and they're not interested in competing fairly. They know if AW and other manufacturers had the 9800, the Dell would lose out on all the magazine comparisons like they used to, but in Dell's usual fashion, they don't up their own game, they make sure they use their money to get exclusives so nobody will see how well the part performs on a real motherboard.

If this kind of crap flies, and idiots keep buying Dell computers, the only company that will be left or able to get the latest hardware will be Dell. That is bad news for everyone that doesn't want to settle for a half assed system.

Dell sucks.
post #185 of 500
LOL... yeah, Dell aint all that great.
post #186 of 500
Good to see ya back on here Hammerhead posting,, hope your doing well,,
post #187 of 500
Do you really think that a gigantic,globally orientated hardware company like Dell gives a Sh**t about a tiny, irrevelant company like Alienware?
Do you think that they would waste their recources on this small ,so called, competitor?

Alienware doesn´t really have the means to compete with Dell and Dell knows, that they don´t have any reason to be afraid of AW.AW on the other hand doesn´t even need to attempt competing with Dell as their customers want something totally different.
Just think of Dell as a brand producing cars like Volkswagen and Alienware producing cars like Lotus.The first brand is bought by all the mainstream users and the second brand is made for enthusiasts that are willing to pay the extra buck for something that you don´t see every day.

I think Dell just doesn´t care about AW!(only my few cents)
post #188 of 500
Dell might suck, but they at least make an attempt at customer service. When they release a lappy with pci express and 2ddr memory capabilities, I will be tossing my year old AW and buying a Dell. Unliess Sager has something comparable to the 7700.

A year of crappy customer service from AW is enough for me. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me!
post #189 of 500
umm have you not looked at sager??? its called the 9860 and they get upgrades b4 AW imo the XPS isnt comparable + the new XPS2 isnt near the power as it uses Pentium M
post #190 of 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flatulatta
umm have you not looked at sager??? its called the 9860 and they get upgrades b4 AW imo the XPS isnt comparable + the new XPS2 isnt near the power as it uses Pentium M
Thanks mate! I will check em out with all due haste!
post #191 of 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flatulatta
umm have you not looked at sager??? its called the 9860 and they get upgrades b4 AW imo the XPS isnt comparable + the new XPS2 isnt near the power as it uses Pentium M
No offence but saying a Pentium M isn't comparable to a normal P4 is just plain bad knowledge. It is becoming a well known fact now that the M series is a hell of a lot better than the P4 series even for desktops (hence the desktop boards released lately).

The M series was built from the ground up, its not just a hackjob like the P4 and its various builds. You should go read a review and check the performance difference of a Pentium M 1.9Ghz or 2.0Ghz and you will be surprised, because they can kill Northwood 2.8-3.4s with ease and use less power, plus you can clock them higher if you wish.
post #192 of 500
Hey Flatulato,

I went over to the torque site and checked out the 9860, x800's are on back order for about a week. I can wait! I'm gonna get the 3.4 P4 with 2 gigs of ddr2 at 533mhz and a pair of 7200 epm hard drives set up with raid of course. TV tuner and dvd burner with the new audigy pcmdia card, built in wireless and no alien led's on the lid. lol.

I checked out delivery time with an email inquiry and they had my answers back before I woke up next morning. Sager has already treated me better in one day then AW ever thought of doiing. Cool, thanks mate!

Winter-Out

P>S. I am donating my AW lappy to a game modder in training that has need of hardware and doesn''t care what brand name is on the lid. At least he wont go in thinking he should have gotten better service for the thousands of dollars it cost. Happy all round, we will be, good job and thanks again.

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Alienware doesn´t really have the means to compete with Dell and Dell knows, that they don´t have any reason to be afraid of AW.AW on the other hand doesn´t even need to attempt competing with Dell as their customers want something totally different
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This guy has it backwards, Dell will never be afraid of AW, but AW is very afraid of giants like Dell. Dell is one of the very reasons that ATI got shuffled to the back of the line when orders were taken and promises made last fall.
AW had promised an upgrade for the 9600 and then had to cool its heels while ATI made 50,000 vid modules for Dell.

The idea that AW has different customers than wanted by Dell is not well thought out either. Dell is very interested in the money to be made on premium gamer laptops and also is aware of the street cred or net cred it you will that comes with having a flagship laptop that competes headon with anybody's hardware. Being tops in magazine reviews and having hand with the younger gamers makes for respect and future sales to these same label conscious consumers.Also, people will go check out the highend system and go through sticker shock, at which point the savvy salesman just moves them to a cheaper laptop with assurances that it has the same quality and reliability, only a tad slower. hehe!

Capitalism at its keenest edge and only the strong survive the process. Strong in engineering or customer serviice, both the same thing to most non tech users. Chrysler found out how customer service could sell horrible cars in the early eighties. They also found out even later that the best cars won't sell bad customer service. In the end, you are only as good as your word and your potential to sell laptops next year.

AW lost me for life, and at one laptop a year, which I am averaging here, that's noteworthy, especially wheen you multiply it by all the complaints in the AW forums. AW's loss is someone elses gain, Sager's gain by all indications, but DEll is selling xps's at full retail with no problem and thats with old tech to boot.

Sry dude, didnt mean to ramble, and no disrespect intended, but the issue was lived very personally by myself and family members that witnessed the last year. It was unbelievable and now it's over almost a year to the day. Happy trails!
post #193 of 500

The 9800 256MB Coming at the end fo April...

Thats right folks, I called AW today to try and figure out whats gonna happen now that they discontinued the 5500 with the promise for upgradable graphics. The Customer Service rep told me that they received a memo yesterday stating that by the end of this month, the ATI 9800 256MB graphics card will be available to 5500 owners as an upgrade, thus fulfilling their promise of upgradable graphics. He did also mention that they will be releasing an NVidia card as well, didn't really care much for the details of that one though. SOOOOOO, finaly, after a year, i can upgrade my graphics!
post #194 of 500
ooooooooo me want for my 766 eheh
post #195 of 500
If you're lying I'm going to stab you in the face over the intarweb!

Just kidding of course, I'm really going to stab you in the heart

And if you're telling the truth, cool.
post #196 of 500
LOL... yeah, thats what they told me, i just about had a heart attack. If they were lying, i swear i am going to fly down there myself and kick the CEO's @$$... taking donations for a plane ticket... j/k
post #197 of 500
ok... well i would consider it as a may be....

if this come at the end of April then, why did aw take the 5500 away from the site before any new buyer is on the verge of buying it?
post #198 of 500
Perhaps they didn't see a reason to mass produce them since the 7700 is probably selling better, so they are limiting their supply to those who already own one? Not to mention there would probably be some who complain that there are no upgrades past the 9800 if they bought it with one.
post #199 of 500
Sweet A$$...

Turmoil...with that great info you've moved up a notch in my book...notch 1. =P
Just kidding, thanks AW and thx Turmoil...I can't bitch about my "upgradeable" options anymore.
post #200 of 500
yeah nice to hear it...i was becoming a jaded bitter university student at the prospect of it never coming out at all.
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