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benchmark mumbo jumbo

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
i was reading the different reviews and realized i have no idea what becnhmarking is... what is it? i learned that many programs are used in benchmarking, programs like 3dmark2001, 3dmark2003, SISoftware Sandra, and pcmark2002 among others.
what exactly do these programs evaluate? what are undisputed, official marks for the 8887 and 5670 (both spec'd out to the max)? how do these compare to the marks found on others systems such as Dells and Sony's?

i'm probably being really annoying but i just want the assurance that my Sager purchase, 5670 or 8887, I will not regret...


THANKS!
post #2 of 11
Dude you are starting WAAAY too many threads...

Try to keep your discussions into one thread. I think you started one for the 5670 and then another and another...

Its confusing and instead of spreading out info you can get all the info under the same thread. This is not like other forums where you have to spread Q's - people see your questions no matter where they are.

Really...cut down on the thread spawning and i'm serious...

There are plenty of benchmarks down at the reviews and benchmarks section. Its all there to see - please go over and have a good read...

Its annoying that we take trouble to do reviews and get members to post their benchmarks and then some dude who doesnt wanna read pops in and asks us to do all that again...

I hope you understand...
post #3 of 11
Thread Starter 

im sorry

i understand












post #4 of 11
OUCH!!! Go easy on the guy. Let's make this thread as friendly to newbies as it is to the experienced veteran. That is unless of course you don't want any new members...
post #5 of 11
New members are fine...just maintain some discipline and make it a little easier for older members to answer your questions.

By making 100 threads you are NOT making things easier. Keep all your questions to one or two threads and you'll be just fine.

If you cannot understand the logic behind my post and if you prefer to take everything as a direct attack at newbies then you can my

We have all contributed a LOT in terms of experience, time and knowledge to this forums. I recommend you respect that to a small degree and help keep the forums in line.
post #6 of 11
Well since you're a moderator on this forum I'm suprised you haven't thought of this already... there should be another forum where new members can ask as many questions as they would like - even if they have already been asked before - so that they aren't threatened by overly aggresive moderators like you (who happen to have a pet peeve). Then you would just never have to visit THAT forum. IMO the success of the sager forum, and others like it, come from the "Adams" of the world who are willing to take time out and answer questions for the people who are just trying to get more information. I have seen Adam answer multiple redudant posts, yet he has kept his cool and people like that.

But like I said, create a newbie forum so that people can ask entry level and redudant questions without getting flamed.
post #7 of 11
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But like I said, create a newbie forum so that people can ask entry level and redudant questions without getting flamed.
getting flamed?

I'll stop here before this becomes another flame fest...

The guy I told off didnt seem to have too many problems with my suggestion - I suggest you visit the dell forums to see how it runs...

All I said was - ask as many questions as you want - just try and keep them to the same thread so that YOU and I know where the questions from jyoung and AClerok are gonna be...

And I am not a moderator...who said I was??
post #8 of 11
post as many threads as you want, this is a forum by the way and the only reason it exists is for discussion. If you dont want to answer his question, dont, let someone else. In the amount of time it took you to lecture this guy gsferarri you could have answered all his questions.
post #9 of 11
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All I said was - ask as many questions as you want - just try and keep them to the same thread so that YOU and I know where the questions from jyoung and AClerok are gonna be...
Some people just dont get it

128 posts Outsider?? Any idea how many peeps Q's i've answered??
post #10 of 11
Well, while I can definately see gsferrari's point, I also think this got a little too heated when it needn't be.

I have answered the same questions over and over and over again, and I not only WILL KEEP answering them over and over, but I look forward to it. I know what it's like to be a "n00b" and I have found it's easier to "chastise" (if you will) while answering the question.

I'd love for every new user to become familiar with the SEARCH button, but this will never happen; so I would like to remind them about it - at the same time, I'd like to make my reply an "answer" and give as much good info as I can.

I may not always be able to answer the questions, but I will try my best; I'd like nothing less than to keep this forum one of the "n00b-friendliest" places on the net as I can make it (in my own little contributing way).

I am even open to PM's (Private Messages) for people who do not (or fear) posting "dumb n00b questions" - and I've done this many, many times in the past. I'll also hang out in the chat section whenever I can (even if there are 0 users) just in case someone pops in to get immediate help/info.

It's not precision work, by far, but it is a labor of love and a nice hobby one can have (helping, that is).

So let's just keep things civilized and end this particular discussion as it stands now.

-myrkat

PS: ACLerok: benchmarks are programs designed to test a system's power. Whether CPU (processor) or GPU (graphics) or a combination thereof, they provide a number (score) so one may compare their system to others and see how they're doing. Sandra, for instance, tests ALL aspects of a computer (hard drive, memory, CPU, GPU, etc) while 3DMark really only tests the 3D video performance.

As for undisputed "official" marks, there are none. Not official, anyway; but if you look in the Reviews and Benchmark section (or search for "3DMark" or "Sandra" then filter through the posts) you will see what many users have scored, and thereby get a good estimate of how your new Sager will perform. To get scores on ther machines and such, you have to look elsewhere (Dell forums for dells, Toshiba forums for toshibas, etc). Sometimes the benchmark software manufacturer keeps a database so once you run a test on your system, you can compare it with their database.

(that's a BIG p.s., by the way!)
post #11 of 11
Thread Starter 

i'm a stupid newbie

thanks for the replies!
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