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comparisons between a powebook G4 and a 5670 for audio

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
Hi all. I'm on a serious doubt between a powebook G4 867 Mhz and a sager 5670 3 Ghz w/ HT to be my mobile DAW.
My other choices are a MBox and a LaCie 7200 RPM firewire.
Besides any passion, i really wanna know about a real performance comparisons on audio recording, mixing and Virtual samples and instruments handlings.
Any comments would most useful. My most uses are in reason/Logic or cubase, using protools for recording audio.
thnks, and cheers from brasil.
post #2 of 15
I think the Apple computers are better for these apps because they are a lot less 'noisy' either because of better design or better hardware placement. I havent had any issues with the sound output on a mac and I find it excellent.

Cant say the same about the Sager systems...they do the job but barely...unless you are using SPDIF but I really dont see everyone being able to afford a $400.00 speaker system...

I may be wrong but the best option would be Apple G4, i-Pod and all the instruments you wanna play...that will be super...
post #3 of 15
Thread Starter 
ok ferrari. Stability is other main factor for me, since i'll use the notebook for live performances also.
Any comments about a perfomance comparison? Now i wanna know about raw power...

cheers
post #4 of 15
hands down, go with the mac. is it simply unbeatable for audio work. sagers are nice and all...but nothing will touch a mac. of course, this is assuming you dont want to play games as well.

get a mac. do you have a soundcard "solution" picked out yet?
post #5 of 15
Thread Starter 
as i said, i'll go Mbox and a Lacie firewire 7200 RPM. I was think about the tascam us428 for montioring, but i dont think it has a nice A/D conversion and good pres like the mbox...
My only complaints about the powerbook is the usb 1.1 and firewire 400 ports. Why dont they upgrade this shit??/
post #6 of 15
Performance wise the fastest G4 is somewhere close to a P4 2.0 Ghz CPU but it works better than one because of the better OS and the programs for Mac are also better written IMO.

You will prefer to work on a Mac because of the OS and the number of programs that are available for this very application - multimedia...
post #7 of 15
the tascam control surface you are speaking of has no mic pres (if its the one im thinking of). how much money do you have? are you getting a midi controller?

the mbox is a nice choice. still, id instead go with a digi 001. they can be had on ebay for pretty good prices and you can expand later if you want. i guess it depends on how much you want to record (full band, guitar and vocals, etc.).
post #8 of 15
hmm..a Sager 5670/8887+RME multiface/digiface with 8ins/outs is the way to go man...
the internal "noise" of the Sager has nothing to do with a pro audio card since the internal audio card will never be used anyway..in a pro setup that is...
powerbooks are sexy but if you need raw power ( for lots of plugins EQ great reverbs etc etc..) you ll get more with the sager..

if you haven t bought the Mbox found out whow much it wil get you to have a Sager+RME+Nuendo and compare it with a powerbook+Mbox+Protools...

even photoshop and after fx are way faster on a pc 3.006 HT than on a Dual powermac....

shop around before and compare....

post #9 of 15
i concur with jahlove...RME is the ferarri of mobile pro soundcards. at least, to me they are. youre also gonna want a good midi controller if you dont alreay have one. ahhhh, i love gear. we need a guitar forum in offtopic....

EDIT: look into cubase sx...so nice, simple to use. but in the end, they all do about the same thing. its all interface.
post #10 of 15
Thread Starter 
i was thinking about the mbox because of the focusrite pres, as far as i know you have to get some pres with the multiface, wich used to be my choice, but after thinking a lot, i guess my main needings are for two good channels, for recording vocals and instruments, and not for eight channels with no pres. the multiface also costs double of the mbox.
Oh, i control MIDI via USB Oxygen. thats why I want a mobile setup, everything on a bag
You guys are making me nuts about what laptop to choose...
I'm using Reason/Cubase/Wavelab on a desktop pc, so if i'll go mac there will be a platform change, everybody talks about the better PT performance on a Mac for audio recording, what do you guys have to say about it? Should I stick with Cubase and a sager 5670 3Ghz w/ HT? Or go mac?
jahlove, do you have any material comparison that states what you're talking about the better perfomance on sager, regarding Heavy VSTi and plugins handling and audio recording...
cheers, (and i was beggining to think that my doubts were disapearing...)
post #11 of 15
sorry man i don t have one exemple that would show you that a Sager/Pc is better than a Mac regarding DAW in general..
the truth is you can get an amazing output power with any pc with at least 2 ghz speed.. but again it depends how you use you gears and how far you push them..

cubase.net is an excellent forum where after a while you ll realise how good a pc DAW ( and cheaper too..) can be..

a friend of mine whose into video is of course Pro Mac all the way ( Motu's DP etc..) and Final cut pro bla bla..but he wants to buy a cheap powerfull pc because the rendering on After Fx/Premiere?Photoshop is faster...what??..BUT he loves Mac...

PPl forget that the Mac at the beguining was amazing machines for 3 reasons > OS for the Gods ( compare to Dos...windows..etc), the uniqueness of the look somehow and the SPEED!!!!

nowaydays this is not true anymore unless ibm creates a new chip sooo in advance that Mac gets their edges back again..but Intel?AMD will never let that happen again not for soo long...

be smart man..you don t even own a Mac desktop... you own a pc desktop..so why get less power first by moving to a laptop ( thus not being able to use more powerfull pci audio card a la Mackie or scsi drives) and change your OS too?

i was ready to get the 5670..then i see a D470..then i see a 5680
..but i trully don t see a powerbook in my future laptop
post #12 of 15
Thread Starter 
Hi.
Jahlove, you're almost making me go back in my decision, wich was for the 5670. What are these other notebooks you mentiones(D470 and 5680)? i never heard about it ...
tell me more...
Anyone using RME multiface without any preamps?
post #13 of 15
5680 is the "forum's name" of the next 5670 upgrade coming up soon or in a couple weeks no one knows for sure ( do a search )

and this is the reason why y o u w i l l n o t b u y a p o w e r b ook >

http://sagerforums.com/showthread.php3?s=&threadid=3025
post #14 of 15
the reason why you might not buy a Mbox?

http://www.focusrite.com/products/pl...intrakpro.html
post #15 of 15
Thread Starter 
uh. nice babies...
Any idea of the twintrak price? i guess it woulb too much for my buck.
This link is for the D4... where's the 5680?

You 're changing my mind, fella....
cheers
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