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post #61 of 87
If I were you Aamsel, I would buy nc6000 with XGA and 64 MB VRAM, a basic port replicator, and an external SXGA monitor (17" or 19" with good viewing angles) for additional screen space. The last two would be in your primary work place. You would use the computer in a dual monitor setup. I love it.

Cheers,

Tommi
post #62 of 87
Thread Starter 
Thanks, but...I already have good 19" LCD monitors at home and at work, but this notebook is for when I am at neither place.

Andrew
Austin, TX
post #63 of 87
Aamsel, what where your considerations against the Asus M6N? It sounds like it might fit your criterea.
post #64 of 87
Thread Starter 
I require a notebook where accidental damage protection can be purchased at a reasonable price. Right now, that is only IBM, HP, Dell and SONY.
(I wouldn't consider a place that might or might not be around in a couple years. Yes, I fully realize that HP or IBM could go under, but....unlikely).

Roarak:
I thought you were going to go for the new widescreen Sager with WSXGA+ ???


Andrew
Austin, TX
post #65 of 87
I am still planning to, its just backordered EVERYWHERE. I was too slow to jump in on the first batch because i wanted to see some reviews.
post #66 of 87
Hey Aamsel,

If I'm you, I would go against all odds and order a T42 one more time!
post #67 of 87
Thread Starter 
OK, but which one??
One of the two I ordered first or another one??
Remember, I am also trying to end up with a screen that I can work off, and the XGA T42's only have a 7500 card in them. Please advise.

Thanks,
Andrew
Austin, TX
post #68 of 87
Thread Starter 
Update:
IBM has just released (on September 1st) two T42 models with XGA and a 9000. Still not that big of a deal, of course, but that is the best GPU that IBM has put in an XGA T Series Thinkpad so far.

Andrew
Austin, TX
post #69 of 87
Hey aamsel - Have you pulled the trigger on a replacement yet? Just curious as to how your decision process is going.
post #70 of 87
Quote:
Originally Posted by aamsel
Update:
IBM has just released (on September 1st) two T42 models with XGA and a 9000. Still not that big of a deal, of course, but that is the best GPU that IBM has put in an XGA T Series Thinkpad so far.

Andrew
Austin, TX
What is "9000"????

LQQK
post #71 of 87
the gpu
post #72 of 87
Thread Starter 
I have ordered two HP's. One just arrived, a loaded zt3000 with DVD burner and 1 Gig memory. Another one next week, an nc6000 with XGA. If I don't like one of the two, then I will keep working on something, but I hope I like one of them. If not, I might order one of the new IBM's.

Andrew
Austin, TX


Quote:
Originally Posted by satch
Hey aamsel - Have you pulled the trigger on a replacement yet? Just curious as to how your decision process is going.
post #73 of 87
Did you BTO the NC6000 or go with a reseller model? What specs? Decisions suck.
post #74 of 87
Also, not to hurt brain further, but if you're interested in something a tad bigger, there's a new promotional model for NW8000 (128MB Fire GL T2) that's priced better than a similarly equipeed NC8000. Reseller model is PL563UA.

My problem is that I am (foolishly) bouncing around between the aforementioned NW8000, a custom NC6000 or a Vaio S series (cool factor high).

Cons on Vaio S: I just can't get past paying these kind of prices for someting w/ a one year standard warranty, and I'll have to throw out parts to up the RAM unless I special order. Crappy hard drive too.

Cons on NC6000: Custom order and time is not on my side; Awfully big/heavy for only 14 inch screen. Choices between SXGA and XGA on a 14 kind of annoy me, I'd love something in middle (hence attraction of WXGA 13.3 on Vaio S).

Cons of NW8000: Not to many, other than it's darn big (but not that much bigger than NC6000). I will be travelling a bit w/ new job, but am not sure how much, so I "worry" about having this as my primary steed.

Decisions still suck.
post #75 of 87
Thread Starter 
I did a BTO nc6000 with 64MB 9600, DVD/CD-RW, XGA, 1 X 512MB (I will add a second 512MB from Crucial if I keep the unit) and also added 3 year accidental damage protection. I won't consider a notebook that I can't add 3 year accidental damage protection to, since I have had one "totalled" notebook replaced by Dell a while back. "Accidents will happen" with notebooks, and that is one coverage that I won't do without, and I will not purchase it from a 3rd party. Too much hassle. Anyhow, it is one coverage that I feel is vital for a notebook. BTW, for anyone interested in a SONY S Series (or any other SONY), SONY will add accidental damage protection to a notebook order, but it can be done ONLY WITH A SALES REP OVER THE PHONE. You can not add it when placing a web order. It costs just over $300 for 3 years. Anyway, that adds to the list of major notebook vendors that offer accidental damage protection. Right now the list stands at HP, IBM, Dell, SONY (not sure about Toshiba). Fujitsu does not offer it.

As for the S series SONY, if you are in a major city and have not seen an S series, I suggest that you go see one, and try the keyboard. I did not think it was very good (although some people in the S series thread seem to love it.) Also, it has no Page up, page down, home or end keys. SONY chose to save space by eliminating those keys, and not by making other keys under-sized. That may be valid, may not be, I suggest you see it and decide. Too much $$$$ for what it is, IMHO, but then, I was only interested in a non-XBrite with 9200. As I have always said, I do not like the glossy screens at all.

Andrew
Austin, TX


Quote:
Originally Posted by satch
Did you BTO the NC6000 or go with a reseller model? What specs? Decisions suck.
post #76 of 87
Hey great! Keep us informed about how you like HPs when they arrive!
post #77 of 87
aamsel: What are your impressions on the HP zt3000? I am trying to decide between the Acer 1681WLMI or the HP zt3280 (this is a loaded version with 1.6 Banais). I went to the store to check out the HP. I had a few problems with it:
- The screen is not very bright, even on the highest setting (at least compared to Toshiba's Truebright and Sony's Xbrite), but at least it is not glossy like the other two.
- All USB ports are located on the back, where they are hard to reach.
- I am not at all impressed with the keyboard. The keys have the sticker labels which are hard to read in a certain angle due to the glossy sticker surface. And won't these come off after a while?

My only problem with the 1681WLMI is the crappy battery life and the lack of built in bluetooth. Both of these are fine in the HP zt3000. What do you think?
post #78 of 87
Thread Starter 
Well, I am just starting to check out the zt3000, and my first disappointment was that I didn't get a Samsung LCD panel. I GOT A CHUNG HWA, you got it, Chung Hwa. I posted another thread about this. They may be the best LCD panel ever, I just had never heard of them, nor have many others. Apparently HP now uses them. Anyhow, maybe 6 months from now they will be the panel that everyone wants!!
As for your concerns, standard LCD's are NEVER going to seem as bright as the glossy ones. Never. And, since you seem to be like me (you don't like the glossy ones) you will have to be satisfied with the best of the matte panels. The ACER's are supposed to have the really good widescreen panels, but, I don't go for ACER support or ACER as a company in general. Long story, but ACER is the same company as AOPEN, and I never liked their stuff at all. Also, they don't offer accidental damage protection, and that is vital to any notebook that I go with. It has saved me a ton of money on a lousy Dell already having that kind of coverage. And, no you can't duplicate it with Homeowners or a third party insurance policy IMHO. Bluetooth is not a big deal, since you can add a small dongle, unless that bothers you, but you can't get around poor battery life.
As for the zt3000, yes, the keyboard does have stickers, but they don't cover most of the key (like others I have seen), and it looks like they are almost "welded on", I don't think they are ever coming off.
Yes, all the darned ports are in the back, and the darned power cord plugs in the side, which is kind of the reverse of how it should be.
The HP looks to be a really good value for what you pay for it, but for me, it is really a lot bigger and heavier than what I really want (I know this has no meaning to you.)
Again, depending on if you are going to order standard WXGA, WSXGA+, etc. there are several screens that you could get. You need to order one, run Knoppix or Ultimate Boot CD to see which LCD panel you got, check it out, then use the 30 day return if you are not happy. HP will even pay the return freight, and since they offer free shipping the total cost is zero if you don't like it.
Hope I helped some, I will let you know if I decide to keep it, but it does not look extremely likely now. Again, if I don't keep it, I won't be going for another notebook as large as a 15.4" so it probably won't have relevence to you.

I did find out an interesting tidbit about HP's that some of you may know:
The consumer models are all assembled in China and shipped here. Takes about 2 days to get one here (even though you pay ground shipping). In fact, because of crossing the International Date Line, mine got to Anchorage BEFORE IT LEFT SHANGHAI!! Cool!

Anyhow, now for the interesting tidbit:
The Business models (nc6000, nc8000, nw8000) are actually assembled here in the USA (Indiana, etc) by the old Compaq "crew" (that was based in Houston). They use the same Chinese, Taiwanese, etc. parts but they are assembled here.

Which are made better??
I have no idea.
Still waiting on my nc6000, which, at this point, I may cancell before it ships, don't know how long I can wait.

Most of the consumer stuff, you order it, and away it goes, usually ships in a couple days. They say 10 days, but it is usually about 2 or 3.

Andrew
Austin, TX
post #79 of 87
Quote:
Originally Posted by aamsel
I think that we serve everyone's best interests by truly listening to what the member wants and needs and replying appropriately.

We do NOT serve anyone's interests by constantly recommending:
1.) the notebook we personally purchased, if it is not applicable to the situation.
2.) one particular manufacturer, unless it is applicable to the situation.
3.) one particular vendor.

With that in mind, for example, the CL56 is NOT always the perfect fit for every single user!!!! There are other notebooks in the world.

We can't help but be somewhat biased based on our own personal experience and choices, but please let us not be out to generate sales for a particular make and model.

(off soapbox)

Andrew
Austin, TX

Lol. I think I had that SAME rant when the CL56 was the flavor of the day.
Need a thin/lite - CL56!
Need an AMD Book? - CL56!
Widescreen? - CL56!

That said, guess what aamsel? I'm looking for a notebook again too . My brother needed a laptop so I hoooked him up with my Acer 2012WLMI. Time to pull out the old IBM T20 from the closet. Phew...gone from a Toshiba 5205-S119 to a Dell 8600 to an Acer 800lci to an Acer 2012WLMI back to my trusty ole 3 year old T20. I truly have learned my lesson this time though. NOTHING bigger than a 14" for me. I am thinking about the XGA nc6000 as well. The 3 year warranty sounds good with the carry-in as there appear to be over 10 authorized service centers within a 5 mile radius of where I live (one benefit of living in the Megalopolis known as Southern California ).

With regard to the V505's...I went back to playing with my brother-in-law's v505. To reaffirm the other poster's commentary on this notebook line, his 505BX (one generation older with the P4-M) had some pretty poor viewing. It sux too because the recent generation models with Centrino/Ati 9200 are going for ~ $1500. Considering the form factor and features, that's a FANTASTIC price. I may have to see the newer V505 in the store and play around with it some...you know...just in case.
post #80 of 87
Quote:
Originally Posted by bazsu
aamsel: What are your impressions on the HP zt3000? I am trying to decide between the Acer 1681WLMI or the HP zt3280 (this is a loaded version with 1.6 Banais). I went to the store to check out the HP. I had a few problems with it:
- The screen is not very bright, even on the highest setting (at least compared to Toshiba's Truebright and Sony's Xbrite), but at least it is not glossy like the other two.
- All USB ports are located on the back, where they are hard to reach.
- I am not at all impressed with the keyboard. The keys have the sticker labels which are hard to read in a certain angle due to the glossy sticker surface. And won't these come off after a while?

My only problem with the 1681WLMI is the crappy battery life and the lack of built in bluetooth. Both of these are fine in the HP zt3000. What do you think?
In all fairness to the HP model, there are no "standard" lcd's that will appear remotely as bright as Truebright/Xbrite/CASV/MVA/Crystal View style panels.
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