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post #81 of 87
9/9/04 at 11:56am
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I absolutely, 100 percent agree with this. You either like the glossy screens or you don't. Most people do, I happen to be in the minority not liking the glare from them. NOBODY can deny that the image looks outstanding on them, its just a matter of whether or not you can live with the glare in the environment that you will be using it.


Andrew
Austin, TX


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In all fairness to the HP model, there are no "standard" lcd's that will appear remotely as bright as Truebright/Xbrite/CASV/MVA/Crystal View style panels.
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post #82 of 87
9/9/04 at 12:04pm
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Yes, I was referring particular to the CL56 bunch when I made that original statement!!

As for "nothing bigger than a 14" for me" I maybe about to form that same final opinion. With my requirement of having accidental damage protection option, and eliminating everything that I have eliminated, my possible choices would be:
1.) nc6000 (on order)
2.) IBM T42 (XGA now available with a 9200 September 1st)
3.) IBM X31 (but no damned trackpad)
4.) IBM X40 (ditto the no damned trackpad again)
There is nothing else that would work that I am aware of (that I haven't already ruled out).

I will say one thing about the zt3000 that I have in my hands with the Chung Hwa screen. It does seem to be VERY fast and have amazingly good contrast (listed at 400:1 and 28ms). The blacks are VERY black.

Andrew
Austin, TX


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Lol. I think I had that SAME rant when the CL56 was the flavor of the day.
Need a thin/lite - CL56!
Need an AMD Book? - CL56!

Widescreen? - CL56!

That said, guess what aamsel? I'm looking for a notebook again too . My brother needed a laptop so I hoooked him up with my Acer 2012WLMI. Time to pull out the old IBM T20 from the closet. Phew...gone from a Toshiba 5205-S119 to a Dell 8600 to an Acer 800lci to an Acer 2012WLMI back to my trusty ole 3 year old T20. I truly have learned my lesson this time though. NOTHING bigger than a 14" for me. I am thinking about the XGA nc6000 as well. The 3 year warranty sounds good with the carry-in as there appear to be over 10 authorized service centers within a 5 mile radius of where I live (one benefit of living in the Megalopolis known as Southern California ).

With regard to the V505's...I went back to playing with my brother-in-law's v505. To reaffirm the other poster's commentary on this notebook line, his 505BX (one generation older with the P4-M) had some pretty poor viewing. It sux too because the recent generation models with Centrino/Ati 9200 are going for ~ $1500. Considering the form factor and features, that's a FANTASTIC price. I may have to see the newer V505 in the store and play around with it some...you know...just in case.
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post #83 of 87
9/9/04 at 4:30pm
My g/f just ordered on of the new 14" WSXGA HP's, from what i saw on the website it looked pretty neat. It has integrated graphics, but fits her needs just fine. Ill let you guys know what it ends up like.
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post #84 of 87
9/9/04 at 7:00pm
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I saw that one, and it looked interesting, but, pretty much appears to be an expensive portable DVD player. Integrated graphics, 14" widescreen and two sets of headphone jacks. I don't see it as anything else really, but she, and others should like it.

Andrew
Austin, TX

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My g/f just ordered on of the new 14" WSXGA HP's, from what i saw on the website it looked pretty neat. It has integrated graphics, but fits her needs just fine. Ill let you guys know what it ends up like.
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post #85 of 87
9/9/04 at 7:01pm
aamsel: Thank you for your comments on the zt3000. I agree with you, I am not a big fan of the new glossy screens either. I still cannot decide however between the HP and the Acer. Now I found the Travelmate 4501WLMI, which is basically the same as the 1681WLMI except for minor improvements, the battery being one of them. But I know you have this thing with accidental warranty, and I respect that. How it the noise level and the heat coming from the zt3000? I couldn't get a feel of those in the store.

kevhuynh: I know exacly what you mean about getting back to good old laptops. When I am inbetween lapotops ( I usually went with Toshibas so far) I always revert back to my good old Satellite with a 400Mhz celeron processor. And it still runs fine, after about 5 years when the hottest option was the 2x DVD-ROM in a laptop. Well it is no demon, but I can still surf the net and check email with it. Just some basic stuff. And you know what I noticed. I find that the overall build quality on there "antiques" are far better than on most of today's popular notebooks, the zt3000 being among them. The keyboard is solid, crispy, and has a nice feel. No sticjkers on the keys. The mouse buttons are neither stiff nor jittery. Even though it has been through a lot, there are hardly any scratches on it (unlike the new, shiny blue Toshibas, where if you rub them with a course paper towel, you'll end up with noticable scratches.) Even the flimsy looking modem port cover door has made it through all these years without any problem. And believe me I have taken it apart so many times to upgrade the hard drive, CD-RW, memory that I can almost do it with my eyes closed. I wonder how would there new would take such a beating. Anyway, while the performance might be ridiculously slow compared to the new ones, as far as overall build quality goes, it is still up there, if not better, apart from IBM of course, but certanly better than most.

One other thing, if you liked the V505, check out Sony's VGN-S150. It has a 13.3 screen, a really nice design, good quality, and relatively nice feautres. I played with it for a while in the store and I was impressed. I never thought that I would like a 13.3 inch laptop.
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post #86 of 87
9/9/04 at 8:46pm
Side by side my M505X is almost (90%) as bright as the Sony A190 17" screen.

Daley
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post #87 of 87
9/10/04 at 12:16am
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The zt3000 is virtually silent, and barely warm underneath, cool on top. Noise and heat are non-issues.
Andrew
Austin, TX


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Originally Posted by bazsu
aamsel: Thank you for your comments on the zt3000. I agree with you, I am not a big fan of the new glossy screens either. I still cannot decide however between the HP and the Acer. Now I found the Travelmate 4501WLMI, which is basically the same as the 1681WLMI except for minor improvements, the battery being one of them. But I know you have this thing with accidental warranty, and I respect that. How it the noise level and the heat coming from the zt3000? I couldn't get a feel of those in the store.

kevhuynh: I know exacly what you mean about getting back to good old laptops. When I am inbetween lapotops ( I usually went with Toshibas so far) I always revert back to my good old Satellite with a 400Mhz celeron processor. And it still runs fine, after about 5 years when the hottest option was the 2x DVD-ROM in a laptop. Well it is no demon, but I can still surf the net and check email with it. Just some basic stuff. And you know what I noticed. I find that the overall build quality on there "antiques" are far better than on most of today's popular notebooks, the zt3000 being among them. The keyboard is solid, crispy, and has a nice feel. No sticjkers on the keys. The mouse buttons are neither stiff nor jittery. Even though it has been through a lot, there are hardly any scratches on it (unlike the new, shiny blue Toshibas, where if you rub them with a course paper towel, you'll end up with noticable scratches.) Even the flimsy looking modem port cover door has made it through all these years without any problem. And believe me I have taken it apart so many times to upgrade the hard drive, CD-RW, memory that I can almost do it with my eyes closed. I wonder how would there new would take such a beating. Anyway, while the performance might be ridiculously slow compared to the new ones, as far as overall build quality goes, it is still up there, if not better, apart from IBM of course, but certanly better than most.

One other thing, if you liked the V505, check out Sony's VGN-S150. It has a 13.3 screen, a really nice design, good quality, and relatively nice feautres. I played with it for a while in the store and I was impressed. I never thought that I would like a 13.3 inch laptop.
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