New Toshiba laptop is out - Page 5

Will the new toshiba with CASV Screen be appropriate for playing games at a high level, or should I GO FOR SAGER???

From the 3DMark 2001SE test scores I've seen on the new Toshiba CASV with FX5600, it seems to lack the bite to run future games like Doom 3.

I read very carefully those tests and it scored around 8500, which is cool and dandy for today's games (UT 2003), but certainly not enough for the upcoming products (Doom 3, Half Life 2, etc)

Plus dont forget the $2700 tag. Kinda dissapointing performance wise IMO. I was expecting a bit more from the new generation lappies.




Cheers.

Then again, you're looking at 3dmark2001 scores. Older generation video cards (geforce 3 and such) WILL score higher on that than newer direct X video cards (geforce 4, radeon 9800).

It will run Doom III and Half Life 2 to fine

what are you smoking man, it wont run it in high detail but at medium detail while lowering a few texture details it will run fine around 30fps at 800x600. Perhaps faster than that and if you dont l ike those fps then put it on low detail and crank the res up one notch

half life 2 will run on it with almost full details fine, it shouldnt be but a bit more gpu demanding than unreal 2.


desktop owners with geforce 3 cards should run it fine at med quality if you have a good cpu processor. The 5600go is a faster than that so its all good

of course it wont run Doom III with all the bell's and whistles but it will still play great and look 2x better than any game out right now on the laptop.

I checked out the new Toshiba 5200 (P4-M 2.2 ghz, 5600 go, 15") at the local Futureshop and wow, I was amazed at the screen quality.

First off, it wasn't advertised in Canada as having a CASV screen. The screen did look totally different than any other Laptop screen that they had on display which made me wonder if this was in fact the new technology Toshiba has been boasting about. It had a glossy (but not super reflective) screen.

But it was totally clear and sharp! I was playing a BF1942 demo and I noticed no ghosting. Colours were truly vibrant.

Was this the CASV screen or was I dreaming?

The specs can be found at www.toshiba.ca. It's price is $3499 CAD



That American version looks better though...

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Still looking to buy my first ever laptop...

Doubt the new ones will have the CASV but perhaps something simular but im doubtful. Even if we have a 100% chance of not geting a new screen its best to see what the reviews of the 8890 are. You have waited for the m10 so long lol

pitty to just say bah hell with it

What I want to know is how far the 5600go will oc

doubt anyone is willing to test it though

Heh, overclocking a mobile GPU gives me the willies - in fact, I did try to do this over the weekend but am not sure how to expose the 'Frequeny Sliders' for achieving this.

To be honest, im perfectly happy with the 5600Go as it is - it plays all my games just perfect, and the fact that UT2K3 just screams on it means to me that Deus Ex 2 will probably run pretty good too.. and that is the only other game besides HL2 that I am really waiting for!!

I have NOT opened the laptop yet to see if this GPU is upgradeable - but I think not. It would have been to Toshiba's great advantage to advertise such a fact if it was the case.

Remember, lets not turns this into 'Sager vrs Toshiba' .. I truly think each manf. provides their own advantages, and you need to weigh those options against your own personal requirements ( or those of your business ).

For myself, Raw GPU power was important, but not as much as portability with that GPU power - and currently the Toshiba S705 is the ONLY laptop currently available in the US that provides all of what I need. Also the Toshiba looks pretty, and I'm a sucker for design - to me the Toshiba looks like the 'Audi' of Laptops.. ( and I mean in looks, not mechanical reliability! )

I've said it before and I'll say it again - if you want a serious asskicking CPU/GPU performance combo then you want to wait for the Sager with the M10/Pro... that monster will most likely decimate everything in sight upon release... ( perhaps the Dodge Viper of laptops? - with the cam upagrade kit and nitrous )

Rin

I find it weird that in Canada the 5200 isn't advertised as having CASV technology.

Anyhow the C-pad doesn't look all that functional. It's more of a gimmick than anything.

I too wish that the new Sagers will carry the CASV technology (doubtful).

I'm keeping my fingers crossed!!!!






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Personal babble: My finalists for my first lappy...with pros / cons.

Sager 8890 -
(Pros) Sweet P4 desktop processor, huge 16" screen, and an awesome graphics processor, 800 FSB. Price is relatively reasonable. Upgradeable.
(Cons) HT problems with the current 877x, heat issues (the new graphics card and desktop processor combined will probably fry an egg), battery life of 1 hour (not really an issue)?...

Dell 8500 - (or newer model)
(Pros) 15.4 wide screen, battery consumption ok
(Cons) extremely crappy keyboard (50+ pages of complaints by Dell owners), expensive, Dell lack-of-support.

Toshiba 5205 -
(Pros) Sweet CASV screen. XP mutimedia centre thingy, new nVidia FX 5600 Go vid card, no real heat issues
(Cons) Expensive. Non customizable. Low processor speed for a next gen laptop.

New Area51M -
Don't know yet...

Im not sure the Sager's will carry CASV specifically, but im sure they will offer some competing technology once the market settles a bit.

The thing with the screen is after a while you just get 'used to it'.. and then I start wondering if it really was worth the money.. then I go into work and compare it to a competing brand of about the same cost and then I realize just why I purchased it

Of course this will eventually become the 'norm', and something better will come along. But I do also think that is is a significant improvement over a standard laptop screen, and this technology should stick around for a while.

Rin

In case anyone's interested, someone recently posted to the Dell Message Boards about getting a 3DMark03 score of 2,520 on his 2.2 GHz Toshiba - here's the post:


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System: Toshiba 5200

CPU: Intel Pentium 4M 2.2 GHz
Storage: 60 G
Memory: 512 MB
Video: GeForce FX GO5600 64MB
OpSYS: Win XP PRO
Program Version: 3DMark03 Revision 3 Build 0
3DMark Score 2520

I am using the 44.65 drivers, these drivers are produced for the desktop unit , but I have had no problems with them. The clown that wrote the article from the Inquirer was benchmarking the GeForce FX GO5600 with outdated drivers, as indicated in his article. I would put my unclocked FX GO5600 against the ATI'S 9600 any day. I also informed this guy by e-mail about his fumbling. Read this and come up with your own conclusions.


Original Message -----
From: @aol.com
To: fudo@theinquirer.net
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 1:34 AM
Subject: Your test between the FX GO5600 and ATI's 9600 Mobility

Your test between the FX GO5600 and ATI's 9600 Mobility are far from giving an accurate comparison between these two units. One page of information on this subject is hardly a foundation to rate these two extremely advanced units. The drivers you used for the FX GO5600 are so out dated. Try using the 44.65 drivers, these drivers gave my GO5600 a 10 to 20% increase on 3DMark03. You must also run your tests in a controlled environment I believe these tests were rushed, with not much expertise going into them. You should leave these technical hardware tests up to the experts in the extreme gaming field.

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Toshiba TV Tuner Compatibility

Hi,

I have a Toshiba Notebook P15-S479 (P4HT 2.8Gb 512Mb 60Gb) that comes with Toshiba Style Bay TV Tuner (USB external NTSC TV tuner).
The OS is Windows XP Media Center.
The latest driver for the tuner is installed.
DirectX 9.0b installed with all hotfixes availables.
I use a set-top box, connected with the tuner by the component video cable that comes with the tuner.
The TV tuner works properly using Media Center application (that comes with Windows) after configured to use the set top box.

But when I try to use any other software (like Pinnacle Studio 9, Intervideo WinDVR), fails to make connection with the tuner. I tried many things, many softwares but nothing works.

Please help me.
I search hard for some help on the web but I found nothing about it.

Thanks....
I wait for a response...

Tiago

I was one of hte first guys on this board to have the 5205-S119. I had the same Toshiba unit and no way in hell was it as fast as a 9600 without some miracle overclocking. By miracle I mean MIRACLE. Doh, this was posted almost a year ago...lol.

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Good Luck!