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Best Defragmenting Software

post #1 of 24
8/27/04 at 2:51am
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Is the Windows defrag utility good enough or is there a mo' better third party utility out there that really improves on Windows design?
Also, I hear lots about Mozilla Thunderbird. Is that Mozilla's version of Outlook? Does it have the same features as Outlook: calendar, tasks, synching send and receive with multiple email accounts, etc?
Thanks in advance!
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post #2 of 24
8/27/04 at 2:14pm
The Windows defrag "utility" is crap. External programs do a lot better, such as PerfectDisk.

Yes, Mozilla Thunderbird is an email client. It doesn't have a calendar except as an extension (which I never tried), I don't know what you mean by syncing, but it does support multiple accounts.
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post #3 of 24
8/27/04 at 2:20pm
I find Diskeep Pro easy out performs Windows defrag...The standard verion also I think you can download for a free 30 day test...www.diskeeper.com
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post #4 of 24
8/27/04 at 2:47pm
Also O&O Defrag , been using that for a few years and it's very good.

http://www.oo-software.com/en/index.html

memnoch.
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post #5 of 24
8/27/04 at 3:23pm
Executive Software -Diskeeper. The best I've used
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post #6 of 24
8/27/04 at 3:41pm
FYI, the integrated Windows defrag utility IS Executive Software's Diskkeeper, just a more stripped variant.
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post #7 of 24
8/27/04 at 9:04pm
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Originally Posted by Unleaded
FYI, the integrated Windows defrag utility IS Executive Software's Diskkeeper, just a more stripped variant.
Can you prove that? That is hard to believe
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post #8 of 24
8/27/04 at 11:24pm
I hae a friend at maxtor, test engineer. I asked him about defragging. He said not to do it... hehe. His idea was to partition the drive 3 ways- an OS section, an apps section, and a small scatch disk for files to be less permanent, so that it could be reformatted at any given time.

Not deleting anything ever... my goodness! Its one approach. He said he ran some benches with the XP defrag utility, and said it made things worse more often than not. I believe it!

Eric
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post #9 of 24
8/27/04 at 11:28pm
First thing I found that confirmed what I said, feel free to google to your hearts content though:

"For the majority of users, the Disk Defragmenter Utility included with XP is sufficient to keep the hard drives in relatively good condition, but it's actually what is known as a Lite or slightly crippled version of Diskeeper, a product made by Executive Software. You may have noticed in Fig. 04 that even after the drive had been defragmented, there were still gaps showing where no files were shown as being present. What are these gaps and why weren't they eliminated by compacting the files to the beginning of the drive? It's due to limitations imposed by the Lite version of Diskeeper supplied with XP. I don't currently have Diskeeper installed, but look at the images below, created from PerfectDisk v5.0 by Raxco Software"

Source: http://www.theeldergeek.com/disk_def...er_utility.htm
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post #10 of 24
8/27/04 at 11:40pm
I thought the full version of diskeeper did a better job than the crippled lite version, but xp version is free & full version is not.
Thanks for the info.
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post #11 of 24
8/27/04 at 11:41pm
I never said that the "lite" version in XP did a better job. I was simply pointing out that it was derived from the full version of Diskeeper. Something I don't believe many people realize.
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post #12 of 24
8/28/04 at 12:40am
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Originally Posted by Unleaded
I never said that the "lite" version in XP did a better job. I was simply pointing out that it was derived from the full version of Diskeeper. Something I don't believe many people realize.
One annoying thing, if you uninstall Diskeeper, it will also take away the Windows Defragmenter.
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post #13 of 24
8/28/04 at 1:14pm
Anyone know if the system mechanic defragmenter is any good?
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post #14 of 24
8/28/04 at 2:14pm
Well, I tried PerfectDisk and it didn't really defrag any better than the stock program. I'm thinking the stock program does well enough on its own.

Is DisKeeper any better than PerfectDisk?
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post #15 of 24
8/28/04 at 2:44pm
Diskeeper is the best. But with Windows XP, i find myself rarely needing to defrag.
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post #16 of 24
8/28/04 at 10:56pm
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Originally Posted by Unleaded
I never said that the "lite" version in XP did a better job. I was simply pointing out that it was derived from the full version of Diskeeper. Something I don't believe many people realize.
I'm not trying to flame you-this statement " I thought the full version of diskeeper did a better job than the crippled lite version" was something I observed running the two different programs.
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post #17 of 24
8/29/04 at 4:45am
In the past, many users were uncomfortable about the "scientology" aspect of Diskeeper. If I remember correctly, about two years ago I downloaded a lite version, and its huge size looked a bit suspicious, so I decided not to try it at all.
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post #18 of 24
8/29/04 at 1:20pm
Scientology is scary. My brother researched them for a paper and did all his online research at internet cafes or libraries. They're watching you.

That aside, I was not aware there was a connection between Scientology and diskeeper.
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post #19 of 24
8/29/04 at 4:37pm
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Originally Posted by EricT
I hae a friend at maxtor, test engineer. I asked him about defragging. He said not to do it... hehe. His idea was to partition the drive 3 ways- an OS section, an apps section, and a small scatch disk for files to be less permanent, so that it could be reformatted at any given time.

Not deleting anything ever... my goodness! Its one approach. He said he ran some benches with the XP defrag utility, and said it made things worse more often than not. I believe it!

Eric
Maybe this is a stupid question but how do you know how big to make your OS partition. I mean getting it as close to what's needed without leaving alot of excess space left over. And how big should you make your scratch-drive ? That's the page-file right ?
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post #20 of 24
8/29/04 at 6:44pm
I use two partitions, (OS and home) for that reason, but Windows makes it next to impossible to separate apps from the OS partition. There are all kinds of "scratch" directories inside WINDOWS - temp, for example. Basically the Windows filesystem layout discipline sucks.
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