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Any opinions on the Acer Travelmate 8006Lmi?

post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 
I've been trying to choose between an Acer Aspire 2025wlmi and a Toshiba Satellite M35-S4561, but on my travels, I came across Acer's Travelmate 8000 series. The 8006wlmi which seems to have everything I want in a laptop. The only handicap is the price, so I'm not entirely sure I'll be purchasing it anyway, as it's about $300-$400 more expensive than the two I had my eye on. For those to own the 8006, would you say that the improvements on it are worth the additional expense?

Another option I found is the 8003lmi, which has a smaller HD and slower speed than the Aspire 2025. The smaller hard drive doesn't bother me too much, but I do want to ask: Does a Intel® Pentium® M 1.6GHz processor with 1MB L2 Cache move much slower than Intel® Pentium® M processor 1.80GHz, 2MB L2 cache, 400MHz system bus for regular (non-gaming) use? The 8003 comes equipped with a Dothan processor as well, right?

On the plus side, I like the normal aspect ratio and the non-slot loading disc drive.

I'm not a techie, so I'm not sure I understand: does the 8003Lmi come with the same multi-DVD drive as the Aspire 2025?

Overall, would anyone here have opinions on whether the Acer Travelmate 8003 is an inferior choice to an Acer Aspire 2025, or if it stands on its own as well?

Thanks so much!
post #2 of 23
you can read my review of the 8006 in the review section if that helps.
post #3 of 23
Thread Starter 
Thanks, Uriel.

Would you happen to have any opinions on the 8003 vs Aspire 2025 question, just in general?
post #4 of 23
in general i don t like the widescreen in the 2025, beacuse i play games, make websites and work in Photoshop. For all those thing normal aspect ratio is rather important. I think that the 2025 is a bit heavier too, and the screen resolution is too low for my taste.
post #5 of 23
I own a TM 8003, and if it had a better screen I would highly recommend it to you. I am not sure if this is a problem only with my screen, but after a few months of use the screen has lost its uniformity. The vertical viewing angle sucks compared to a widescreen LCD, but I believe this is true for most SXGA screens, except maybe for the HP nc8000.

My laptop came with a 5400 rpm drive, but I would get a 7200 rpm HD.
post #6 of 23
Thread Starter 
Errr, what does it mean that the screen has lost its uniformity?

And other than the screen, the performance has been good, has it?
post #7 of 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by Irina
Errr, what does it mean that the screen has lost its uniformity?
There are patchy areas on the screen that are slightly darker than the surrounding pixels when looking at the screen head-on, and slightly brighter when looking at the screen from an angle. In addition, the left lower part of the screen has a slight pinkish hue. These are minor screen irregularities but are annoying. Also, there is a brightness gradient along the vertical aspect of the screen. This means that the top part of the screen is darker than the bottom part. I believe this is true of almost all SXGA+ screens. A minor nuisance most of the time, but a major problem when dealing with black and white images

For what I do with my laptop (gaming, DVDs, and working with B&W images) I wish I would have bought a machine with a better LCD.
post #8 of 23
Thread Starter 
I'll be using my computer a lot for DVDs, too, so that's something to consider. Thank you for the input.
post #9 of 23
Why do want a normal aspect ratio? Sounds like a widescreen like the MiTAC 8050 or Sager 4750 would be good for you since you aren't into gaming and will watch lots of movies.
post #10 of 23
Thread Starter 
If I were going to get a widescreen, I'd likely purchase the Toshiba Satellite M35-S4561. But the thing is, I deal a lot with graphics (I've made and collected hundreds of desktops, for example, in the 1024x768 resolution, and it would be inconvenient not to be able to use them on my new laptop) and also with designing webpages. And while I've never actually used a widescreen, I figure, things would look quite different on it. Stretchy and ugly, perhaps, or else you'd have big blanks on the side. These things might seem trivial, but they concern me nonetheless.

Is your Ferrari a widescreen laptop? Have you ever tried using square desktops on it? How bad does it look, if so?
post #11 of 23
There's no real big difference between processors when you're talking about every day tasks such as internet browsing, word processing, and dvd viewing. If you're not going for a gaming machine then you'd be wasting your money on a laptop with an ATI 9700, unless of course you want gaming to be an option.

There are people who don't want wide screen for aesthetic reasons (such as a lack of wallpapers) or they're not used to the idea of using a laptop with wide screen.

If you mainly want dvd viewing then I guess any laptop with a dvd player with a decent processor and amount of ram will do. The Acer 8003's specs should be more than enough for your needs.

Wide screens don't stretch images, not anymore anyway, its more like adding extra room on your monitor.
post #12 of 23
Thread Starter 
Would you say that the 8006's specs aren't worth the additional expense on them over the 8003, for my purposes, then? I'm somewhat attracted to the larger HD and faster processor.

So then, if you put on a 1024x768 desktop on a widescreen, you should expect to have two blank strips on the side, is it?
post #13 of 23
Judging by what you said what you want to use it for I'd say both would exceed your requirements but the 8006 and 8003 have a decent price difference, the processors have a difference of about $300-$400 while the hard drive is about $39 judging by prices on newegg.

If you set a 1024x768 on a wide screen (WXGA) which is 1024x800 you'd have two blank strips on the sides if you center the image. The lcds for those Acers are SXGA+ by the way which means they're required to be at a higher resolution for things to look "right." I forget what resolution SXGA+ is but its bigger than XGA which runs well on 1024x768.
post #14 of 23
Thread Starter 
I've been reading that the Acer and Toshiba widescreens (which I'm looking at) are both originally at 1280x800. Would you know if setting them to a lower resolution would make things look "wrong"?

I don't know anything about monitors to be honest (sorry about that), but based on what you said, would that mean that I'd likely have to stretch my desktops as well, if I purchase either Travelmate, since I won't be able to use 1024x768 properly?

Thanks again, and I'm sorry to be asking too many question. Really am not well-versed in these things, so I appreciate the input.
post #15 of 23
For wide screen there isn't really a way of setting them at a lower resolution to accomodate 1024x768 because its basically added space to the sides. If you set the image there you will have empty wallpaper spaces to the sides, if you choose to have the wallpaper fit then it will look stretched out.

SXGA+ is a higher resolution, you can probably fit your wallpaper well much akin to stretching an old 800x600 wallpaper in a 1024x768 resolution. Or you can try to set it at 1024x768 but people find it very strange to look at.

You should probably check out this thread: http://notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=38254

So check it out when choosing a notebook and get a better idea of what matches your needs.
post #16 of 23
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the explanation. And the link to what seems to be a very helpful guide. I really appreciate all your help. Definitely more to think about now.
post #17 of 23
i had the same dillema like you. is 8006 wort the top buck?
i decided it is. why? i plan to sell it after a year of use. today its components are top notch for a PM notebook. they will be top notch till q1 2005 when alviso is due. even then 2.13 Ghz will be the fastet PM avalible. so the price of my 8006 will not fall for a long time. so i am investing in the future, so i can get more money when i sell my notebook.
post #18 of 23
For playing 3D games, is the 8003LMi a lot slower than 8006? How about compare 8003 with the Ferrari 3200? Is it a lot slower playing Quake3, UT, Rainbow 6, Black Hawk Down, Far Cry? Let's say I play at 1024x768. I read the bench marks, but ...
Because 8003 5 hours battery life really rocks, but don't know how fast it is. any faster than a Celeron 400 :P?

Also, one reviewer said that the view angle on the 8003 is bad. I know you can't view from the sides, but veritical too? I mean, if I find the right angle, I can view everything clear and sharp, right? Or does it mean if I face it straight on, there are still areas I can't see and I have to move my eye level up to see it? Is that what they meant by bad vertical angel?

Also I read that both 8003, 8006 and Ferrari have the same screens. How come some Ferrari reviewer said that the screen is sharp and bright except the viewing angle which is minor. I looked at another topic for 8006 review and the screenshots on the 8006 screen looks very very nice.
post #19 of 23
if you are considering the 8003 and have doubts about the screen, maybe you should check the M6n with the same specs. I didnt hear anyone complain about its screen, and if i recall good, at the same specs you ll save some cash if you take the ASUS.

BUT if you do have some cash, go for the 8005 , cause it has 128 Mb RAM on its GPU, DVD burner and a faster CPU.
post #20 of 23
Also, one reviewer said that the view angle on the 8003 is bad. I know you can't view from the sides, but veritical too? I mean, if I find the right angle, I can view everything clear and sharp, right? Or does it mean if I face it straight on, there are still areas I can't see and I have to move my eye level up to see it? Is that what they meant by bad vertical angel?

I've had an Acer 8003Lmi since May and have had no problems with the screen at all. There is no problem with
the view from the sides. I adjust the vertical view when needed by moving the screen--which is not often, just when I radically change position or someone is standing over me trying to read what's on my screen. The whole screen is clear and easy to read. I sometimes have to re-adjust the screen brightness when going back and forth between battery and power, but that's not really a problem. I have been pretty mystified all these months trying to understand what people have been talking about when they say they are having problems with the screen.

I am not a gamer and can not help you there. But as for the machine itself I really like it and have had no problems with it whatsoever. It's one flaw was the 4200rpm hard drive, but that was replaced almost immediately with a 5400rpm 80GB TOSHIBA MK8026GAX. You might want a 7200rpm hd, but that's a whole other discussion.

For the price the have it at Newegg now, you can replace the hard drive with a 7200rpm and still pay much less then I did for it in May.
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