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post #1 of 29
Thread Starter 
I've been reading posts on this site for a long time and wanted to clarify a few things. I'm not the oracle and don't really know everything but I can say one thing for sure.

Alienware used to up to last year get all of their laptops from CLEVO/PROSTAR/SAGER.

Voodoo it seems still does by the specs, look, and everything else of their machines including the drivers.

Hypersonic seems to share the same problem as do many of the niche players in the industry. (IE GO-L.)

This does not mean that they don't customize or tweak their models with upgraded boards, graphic cards etc. However, one thing can be clear the cases are the same.

Now the big companies I can understand not buying from them as they can make their own. However most of the big companies buy from one of the manufacturers or used to.

Most now a days give specs to them and have them exclusively make their models (big boys, dell etc.) But a few years ago that was not the case.

ASUS- I've heard does sony. I can't confirm it, and I doubt that. They might have in the past but today that doesn't make sense.

Anyway my point is that these micro companies such as Alienware, Voodoo, falcon, hypersonic, L, or whoever do get it from the same people, and just tweak them. Alienware may no longer apply as they have grown and moved a lot more of the development of their products internally. However, the others seem to be carbon copies, they just tweak a few things. So what's wrong with that? I'd buy a voodoo before I bought a sager because of AMD although Sager I hear is offering one. But the paint and other features are attractive too. When alienware started their case was basic, just colorful, and everything they had was the same as dell etc just the higher end. So why rag on Voodoo, and these other companies?

Like I said I'm not the oracle and I'm sure I'm going to get flak for this post. All I have to say is we should not thrash these companies for doing what every company does or did do at some point.

However, there is trust. Which some of these micro companies break by talking about hundreds of engineers that developed something they didn't or repackaging and naming the most basic components to create the illusion of innovation where none exists. To those companies I say let them have it. Anyway, there's my two cents. Actually it seems to be a lot more. Big shouts to the guy with doc evil as his avatar, can't remember the name, dell terminator, etc on the site. As I mentioned I'm visual so forgive the lack of name support.
post #2 of 29





Uhhh, riiight. I'm going to be lazy and pass on this one. But I think you're right- you're going to get flamed.

Hope ya brought yer fire retardant suit and a bucket o' water.
post #3 of 29
Since when is Go-L a company ??

I have never saw a single machine on any website being tested, no-one has reported that they have one like that.

It's a scam.
post #4 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by notebook lover
I've been reading posts on this site for a long time and wanted to clarify a few things.
Can't have been THAT long if you've come to the conclusion that we trash the boutique laptop resellers....or that you assume we don't already know which ODM supplies each of the companies you listed.

This forum, and particularly the "general section", is somewhat devoted to discussing the "little guy" and it is a terrific resource for all of us and a great place to share our experiences and ask for opinions/advice.

The only company in your list that REALLY gets "trashed" is Go-L because there's little if any honesty an integrity in that outfit.

Stick around a bit longer, I'm sure you will come to a different conclusion than you did above about who we talk about, what we say and when we feel it's appropriate to "trash"
post #5 of 29
sice clevo doesn't sell to the end user, all of the companies you listed are resellers. This includes the big guys, who may have certain shells made just for them, but don't make the laptops themselves.

Hypersonic, voodoo, alienware, all have their fans because they take a good laptop product and customize it. They are all at least reliable businesses to buy from.

Go-L takes a different approach, pretending that they designed the laptop themselves, and that their laptops are worth the extra money, and that they have some super-system that they've never delivered to one customer yet, successfully. Their resellerrating speaks for itself. We don't bother discussing their vaporware here.
post #6 of 29
interesting way to join the forums. I agree and disagree with your post.
I agree that you aren't an oracle because an oracle wouldn't post such a pointless thread.
And then I disagree about us trashing these smaller companies. Dude, I don't think you've ever even glanced at the forums. Take a quick glance at the signatures of members including me. You'll see that we own "the little guys" and that for the most part, almost everyone is happy with their purchase. Oh wait...you're a visual person. Does that mean we have to post a picture of our laptops?
tell me, through your extensive reading, did you ever happen to come across the comparison of Dell=crap?
Seriously, knock on your head and tell us if it's hollow. I believe everone knows the answer to that

If you feel bad for Go-L, order a laptop from them to make them feel better. After all, we aren't right to be trashing their products because they're just as good as any other.

welcome to the forums
P.S. I hope you get banned.
post #7 of 29
I have a good deal of respect for smaller organisations, they usualy have mint customer support and make very appealing products... I've never seen them being bashed badly in the month or 2 I've been looking around here ... Except Go-L

Welcome to the land of notebookforum !!! .... ...

You are trespassing ...

Read my profile avatar ...
post #8 of 29
I like that avatar,kierrato. You should post that in the funny picture thread over in the off topic section
post #9 of 29
I think aside from some unjusified (some is) Dell trashing, Go-L is really the only trashed company here. Read the sigs my good man, hell, read my sig...IBP as in Ibuypower as in ibuypower.com as in THE LITTLE GUY from LA area. I like my system and I got the best specs i could for the money. If i went to BB to look at the big guys, for $1500 they just can't match these specs.
post #10 of 29
What's your point exactly?

Quote:
Originally Posted by notebook lover
Anyway, there's my two cents. Actually it seems to be a lot more.
Really?

Anyway, welcome to the forums
post #11 of 29
Another thing is why do you think we trash boutiques...

Go to the Dell forums and take your own conclusions. Now, this is called Notebook General, and almost all the people that posts here often is someone who owns or plans to own a not-so-branded notebook.

Our opinions are based on what we see. Finally, they're our opinions. If we bought this or that notebook, it's because we think they are more suitable for our needs. If we say this/that support is not that good, it's based on experience or everyone else's experience. You don't give opinions based only on your experience... however, if it's your own, it's more trustworth... that's why sometimes we post something against those brands, but we post things against the CL56, for example... so, I completely missed your point there.
post #12 of 29
wtf ... get the hell out of here you troll. Damn go-l trying to advertise here. We dont want to buy laptops from you racists.
post #13 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phantom
Since when is Go-L a company ??

I have never saw a single machine on any website being tested, no-one has reported that they have one like that.

It's a scam.
Meddude, a forum member, actually bought one (and returned it). There was some sort o' write-up somewhere in a rag about Go-L. Can't for the life o' me remember what rag, though. Do a search for Go-L and you'll most likely find a link.

Altho' no one likes them around here, I think everyone's strangely fascinated by what happens with them. Kind of like staring at a car wreck in slow motion. You know it's doomed and it's ugly, but you still look anyway.


Quote:
Originally Posted by LacheyAllTheWay
wtf ... get the hell out of here you troll. Damn go-l trying to advertise here. We dont want to buy laptops from you racists.

post #14 of 29
Finally, someone who knows less about notebooks than I do!
Cheers to you, notebook lover! Finally, a new whipping boy for the informed masses!
post #15 of 29
I'm not kidding... First, he seems to put too much credit on his opinion ("there's my two cents. Actually it seems to be a lot more"), and, most important, I still completely missed his point. I understood what he said, but I still don't get where he want to go with this text...

I mean, it was a text without a conclusion... he suddenly stopped... He made some questions ("So what's wrong with that?"/"So why rag on Voodoo, and these other companies?") and like tryed to answer them himself.... I don't know, I'm still trying to understand not the text, but the point of making it... ah... whatever. He made a gigantic argumentation for, at my vision, nothing. Is it right or it's just me?
post #16 of 29
DDDa, "For mine own part it was Greek to me". I understood but didn't all at the same time.
post #17 of 29
Yes, exactly as me. I read it 2-3 times to "put" the things side-to-side. And, after that, I missed the point completely.

anyway, forget it....

edit: to Phantom below ---V : as I said, forget it.... : Didn't reply so this thread can die sooner. useless thread.
post #18 of 29
Funny that this guy isn't coming back to the thread, he remains with 1 post :/

Just somebody who wanted a flameware or was in need for spam
post #19 of 29
Thread Starter 
Hypersonic, voodoo, alienware, all have their fans because they take a good laptop product and customize it. They are all at least reliable businesses to buy from.

Go-L takes a different approach, pretending that they designed the laptop themselves, and that their laptops are worth the extra money, and that they have some super-system that they've never delivered to one customer yet, successfully. Their resellerrating speaks for itself. We don't bother discussing their vaporware here

I agree.

Response to everyone else:

Pretty much my intention was to enter the forum with a post and see what people thought. I guess that was not that great of a point and may have been pointless. However, I've been reading on this site for a long time and although I have seen praise for many companies I have also seen slander towards others. I'm not talking about L, although I did read the posts related to the company and found the entire discussion comical after reviewing their site and weeding through the layers of BS. However, I don't really want to thrash the company. My only point was that I've seen praise for alienware on this site for their innovations such as upgrade video card, which they did come up with, they coined it as with dual graphics display. Which, for those who are old school know that dual graphic displays go way back to other companies from back in the day like 3dfx and I think diamond also had a dual option. Anyway no rant here, sorry to waste everyone's time. I just wanted to hear what you thought of my random post and see the responses. I read too many other posts that I thought of contributing to but it seemed pointless as the facts etc were already laid out. I promise my future posts will be more relevant.
post #20 of 29
Ah... why didn't you post this at first? sorry if I was too troll.
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