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ATI Catalyst 4.9s are out

post #1 of 27
Thread Starter 
The Non-Betas of the 4.9s are out, go get em!
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post #2 of 27
just tried them on my 8790 and i still get the chopy video playback

WTF?
post #3 of 27
Quote:
Originally Posted by MW-Baboon
just tried them on my 8790 and i still get the chopy video playback

WTF?
Yeah, I think we can just do nothing. Every new driver still has this DAMN problem, but noone of ATI cares
And the Omega Driver Guys don´t know how to find a solution for it.

cya
post #4 of 27
Thread Starter 
The only reasonable solution that I can do is every time I play a movie, I run dxdiag and disable D3D acceleartion. Then it works.
post #5 of 27
The problem is simple, Catalyst is made for non mobile cards. ATI doesn't see a gaming market in mobile users so they don't bother developing drivers for mobile cards. Omega drivers can't do much about it, because the faulty code can't be fixed. So pretty much expect to see no change for a long.... long time.
post #6 of 27

They sort-of-work

Hi.
I'm using winamp to watch videos, and I managed to get it working with the 4.9 release and a mobile 9600. Right-click on the video window, and unselect the "Allow hardware video overlay"...
Not nice, but better that having to go in the control panel and lower acceleration settings. At least for me...
We should flame ATI for forgetting us road-warriors... (my notebook runs games much better that my desktop!!! )
post #7 of 27
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Originally Posted by Amir
The problem is simple, Catalyst is made for non mobile cards. ATI doesn't see a gaming market in mobile users so they don't bother developing drivers for mobile cards. Omega drivers can't do much about it, because the faulty code can't be fixed. So pretty much expect to see no change for a long.... long time.

That is positively untrue. ATI DOES focus on the mobile gaming market - if they didn't, we wouldn't have Mobility 9600's at all. All this feeling sorry for yourselves about how ATI doesn't care about you is going nowhere.

The problem is clearly that ATI is UNAWARE of the issue. Obviously we're not contacting the right people.

Simple disabling DX features or hardware acceleration is NOT a solution - many web sites are starting to embed video in them and they freeze up (along with the machine) when viewed. There needs to be a permanent fix to this issue.
post #8 of 27
And you're positively an idiot Did it ever occur to you that ATI doesn't even MAKE drivers for your "9600m"? Omega drivers are modified ATi drivers because they don't even make them for your mobile card.
post #9 of 27
because they expect the laptop manufacturers to do it, you know how many variation ati would have to make to their drivers to optimize it? and the problems they would run into with customes and support then? they got enough trouble making their basic desktop drivers. Blame the right ppl plz, how often do you see a good update from clevo?

With that said, I have never had this problem, i've used omega 4.6,4.7, and now 4.8, and it runs video playback perfectly on my 9000.
post #10 of 27
Quote:
Originally Posted by Amir
ATI doesn't see a gaming market in mobile users so they don't bother developing drivers for mobile cards.
LOL! How ignorant! Why do you think ATI and nVidia have gone to the trouble of developing Flexfit and the upcoming mobile pci-express technology so consumers can upgrade their own mobile graphic cards? Do business consumers really care? Hell no, it's for gamers! And do you REALLY think the mobile 9700 chip with 128M vram was created for something OTHER THAN gaming?

Pssh!

If there is a driver issue, I agree it's because they either don't know about it or haven't completed a fix yet.
post #11 of 27
Wow they made 3 mobile cards in the past year, what a friggin record!! Compare your information with the desktop video cards released by ATi, huge difference. Keeping up to date drivers and and researching problems with difference mobile platforms requires lots of manpower, ATi doesn't see a market for this.
And last but not least because this one made me laugh...

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If there is a driver issue, I agree it's because they either don't know about it or haven't completed a fix yet.
I would read what you typed before calling me ignorant. What part of They're not MAKING or WORKING on any mobile drivers do you not understand? Why don't you go out on the internet and find me the latest mobile drivers made by ATi? You'll be looking for a while, because they don't make any.
In fact here's a direct quote from the ATi website:

"The display driver supplied with a given notebook has been customized for:

the built-in flat panel display
any other graphics or video options installed in that specific computer.
As a result of these customizations, ATI Customer Care is unable to offer drivers for notebooks.

We recommend that you:
use the driver supplied with your notebook computer, or,
obtain a driver update from the manufacturer of your notebook computer "




post #12 of 27
ATI is aware of the overlay issue, they just haven't been able to reproduce it in their test lab with reference designs. There seems to be something odd about the way Clevo did the 5680 and 5690 motherboards which messes it up. Clevo also doesn't seem to know how to fix it since they've been taking the reference Catalyst drivers and only changing the resolutions and valid PCI id tests.
post #13 of 27
Chris- this isn't limited to the Clevo design. Other laptop manufacturers have the same problem on the 9600/9700s.
post #14 of 27
I've been following this driver problem with 9600/ 9700 but my 9000 works better with the 4.9 then the 4.8. Smoother video proformance. I am also using the Dmodtool for the 4.9s until Omega comes out with their version.
post #15 of 27

Not to throw a wrench in the works, but...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cubeiikon
Yeah, I think we can just do nothing. Every new driver still has this DAMN problem, but noone of ATI cares
And the Omega Driver Guys don´t know how to find a solution for it.

cya
I think the blame is being misgiven here. I've just recently picked up my 8890 (off of this forum, actually), and have spent a bit of time going through threads to find the proper video driver, and from what I can gather, it is Sager's responsibility to provide proper drivers for the video card.

Because an ATI video chipset was used is irrelevant. According to ATI, because laptops can use video chipsets in many various ways, their agreement with hardware manufacturers is that if they use ATI chipsets in their own integrated products (which includes ALL mobile RADEONs), it is up to Sager to provide updated drivers.

I love my laptop. I love it because it's fast. I love it because it's mobile. I love it because It beats the snot out of my comparably equipped desktop machine. The only fault that I see with Sager is that it has apparently taken the mindset that the users should find their own updated drivers. The fact that ATI's desktop drivers works with some modifications is also irrelevant. It is up to Sager to provide support for these laptops and the hardware that's built into them, and not push that responsibility to the users to provide the world with Omega drivers.

It is also not fair to trash ATI because our Laptop manufacturer doesn't keep their drivers current (or remotely current). I'm saddened that Sager hasn't updated their drivers in more than 6 months. Maybe someone from Sager will see this message and get some updated drivers going on.

Then again... Maybe not...

-ET
post #16 of 27
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Originally Posted by ETMegabyte
...I'm saddened that Sager hasn't updated their drivers in more than 6 months...

-ET
file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/MW%20Baboon/Desktop/download.cfm.html
Tell me that there drivers have not been updated in the last 6 months, sense they have updated there drivers twice sense march, and one just a few weeks ago.
post #17 of 27
Okay, so lets get this stright, as of right now...


Omega 4.5's OK in video Playback
Sagernotebook.com version 7.97 = OK?
Sagernotebook.com version 8.0 = OK? (aug 11th 04)
Sagernotebook.com version 8.3 = BAD (sept 2 04)
Omega 4.6-4.9 = BAD

Has this been confirmed?
post #18 of 27
I have no video playback problems on my 4780 with the 4.8 omegas. but then again I have tons of codecs.
post #19 of 27
I hope this gets solved soon because I'm getting at least 41 fps in doom3 with the new omegas, and would hate to give them up because of a stupid glitch. Sager/clevo seems to be getting better. When I first got my lappy it took them a long time to do anything with the drivers.
post #20 of 27
Hmm, have no problem with any drivers with my 3790. Video playback is perfect.
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