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post #21 of 83
Thanks bro :-)
post #22 of 83
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Originally Posted by Craig
Ownage?
Yup
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post #24 of 83
I sympathize with your plight, Nextel. No one knows better than I about the problems with Alienware...search my past threads, here and on AW's forum, if you're curious. They do sell some good machines, but a lot of their notebooks are lemons. When you have the misfortune of getting a one, AW can be awfully difficult to deal with. I strongly recommend you return it before the 30 day period expires. If you complain loudly enough, you stand a fair chance of getting the restocking fee waived, or at least reduced. Good luck!
post #25 of 83
Well the main point is you simply do not want to purchase an Alianware (type) notebook for work and school purposes. Yes, Alianware makes top-notch products, but it's like purchasing a BMW when you really need a truck. In all likelyhood a standard notebook (like my boring D-600) is going to hold up much better then an Alianware type notebook when used in a work enviroment. Dell and other large companies spend endless hours and $$$ testing these things in the labs just to make sure they can hold up under work type conditions. An Alianware may run way faster, look way better, but it's the wrong hardware for the requirement.
post #26 of 83
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Originally Posted by nextel'sextreme
Well Ive had my laptop since aug 26 2004 Now Ive had nothing but problems from day one, overheating, poor performence, now my lcd is screwed up, every once in awhile when I turn the screen on it has a bunch of white lines and I cant see anything but I hear it goes into windows and then the screen starts to turn black, then it looks like the liquid is moving around in the screen. The other thing I notice is that when the background is black, movies, games, desktop ect, when you have a window open and the close it you can still see the window it looks burned in and then it slowly goes away, kinda like a delayed screen. Anyone else have this problem??????

Well I call tech support and they want me to go through the whole take this out put it in take this out and do the hokey pokey thing. well it didnt work. So I tell them well send a tech out to change the screen and they said oh no we dont do onsite for screens. where the hell does it say that???? There telling me that they can have it to me in about 3 weeks.

Im in school and need it for my projects and I do some online clasess, my first quarter cost 7,000.00 so now if I dont have the computer I cant do my projects and cant do online classes. what the heck am I gonna do. My school gave me the full office 2003 pro full version not student edition kinda like a welcome to school present, Now I have to quit school.

Any ideas what I should do. Am I over reacting??? I sure cant use 3d studio max at kinkos on there computer.

Contact me via AIM: lilfields10, and I MIGHT be able to help you...MAYBE, I don't know how deep into the company you have gotten.
post #27 of 83
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Originally Posted by scott123
Well the main point is you simply do not want to purchase an Alianware (type) notebook for work and school purposes.
I don't think we can make such sweeping judgments. It seems that the new Sentia is specifically targeted at the student and mobile professional. I fit the latter category and will be using my Sentia in my IT consulting business.

P.S. Thanks Craig for being our advocate.
post #28 of 83
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Originally Posted by scott123
Well the main point is you simply do not want to purchase an Alianware (type) notebook for work and school purposes. Yes, Alianware makes top-notch products, but it's like purchasing a BMW when you really need a truck. In all likelyhood a standard notebook (like my boring D-600) is going to hold up much better then an Alianware type notebook when used in a work enviroment. Dell and other large companies spend endless hours and $$$ testing these things in the labs just to make sure they can hold up under work type conditions. An Alianware may run way faster, look way better, but it's the wrong hardware for the requirement.
This contradicts everything Alienware is meant to be. The notebooks you describe shouldn't be able to hold a stick to the Alienware in work/school environments. It may be overkill for the purpose, but I would think that it should hold up better. What's the purpose of 200 point inspections?
post #29 of 83
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Originally Posted by iambox
I don't think we can make such sweeping judgments. It seems that the new Sentia is specifically targeted at the student and mobile professional. I fit the latter category and will be using my Sentia in my IT consulting business.

P.S. Thanks Craig for being our advocate.
I agree on both counts. I purchased my notebook specifically for school, to use CAD software...there weren't many other notebooks that could do what I needed and fulfilled my wants. The key to using a $3000 dollar notebook in a work/school environment is to treat it as such...don't just drop it into a backpack expect it to take the constant jarring and shuffling and still work correctly.

I understand that the original poster had problems out of the gate...to him I say: do what you need to get it fixed...demand their VIP depot service or something, but don't get angry and don't make ultimatums to them...that will only increase your blood pressure and ruin your day. I hope Juan can help you and get this sorted out promptly...they will do everything in their power to fix your machine, but you have to let them try...get you machine to depot ASAP otherwise instead of having a fixed machine in a few weeks, you have the frustration of a broken machine for however long it takes to send it in.
post #30 of 83
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Originally Posted by scott123
Well the main point is you simply do not want to purchase an Alianware (type) notebook for work and school purposes. Yes, Alianware makes top-notch products, but it's like purchasing a BMW when you really need a truck. In all likelyhood a standard notebook (like my boring D-600) is going to hold up much better then an Alianware type notebook when used in a work enviroment. Dell and other large companies spend endless hours and $$$ testing these things in the labs just to make sure they can hold up under work type conditions. An Alianware may run way faster, look way better, but it's the wrong hardware for the requirement.
I completely disagree with you scott. A good powerful notebook like the 51m is great for school. There is no logic in your argument. If Alienware makes top notch products, then why wouldnt they be great for school or work??? Im a junior majoring in Computer Science at Southern Illinois University and I have already started using my laptop for programming in Visual Studio.Net and Cobol. It runs great. If a laptop is good quality, which you said it is, then its good for school, work, whatever you want to use it for.
post #31 of 83
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Originally Posted by ron22lefty
I completely disagree with you scott. A good powerful notebook like the 51m is great for school. There is no logic in your argument. If Alienware makes top notch products, then why wouldnt they be great for school or work??? Im a junior majoring in Computer Science at Southern Illinois University and I have already started using my laptop for programming in Visual Studio.Net and Cobol. It runs great. If a laptop is good quality, which you said it is, then its good for school, work, whatever you want to use it for.
I second that.
post #32 of 83
Yep i agree too.
post #33 of 83
All three of you are wrong and here's why. Alienware was originally intended for LAN parties and other gaming salons not for dragging them around for school and such. Simply put these things are not made with the sturdiness and construction build like an IBM or ibook or even my brothers Toshiba. My lappy weighs 11pounds without all the other junk that goes in my backpack. Imagine the weight to your back when all your books and such thingies are factored in . Also, THIS IS DIRECTED AT ONLY THOSE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY OWN AN AREA 51(the screen size doesn't matter because they both generally have the same build[but for the 15.4 version they just multiplied the speakers), anyway here is the question: please tell me how many of you believe your system travel sturdy and aren't afraid, with all the hustle and bustle of walking and traveling, of harming your system? Take the basic action of taking the thing out of the bag, believe me this thing requires two hands, whereas an ibook or even an IBM thinkpad can be handled with one hand. Hell iv even held them with one hand and typed with the other without worries of dropping them but no way can you do this with the alien. Sure you can take it to school, hell iv been doing this(but I'm now in the process of getting a TRUE portable) but believe me i wouldn't recommend it. The question is not whether or where one can use the system, any laptop can be used anywhere, the issue is whether the system meets the objectives you sought out for in the first place. For a laptop to be considered portable, it must be light and have a great battery life(in my humble opinion). Why would you carry a machine around that brings more worries than its worth. If i were to do it over again believe me i would never buy a desktop replacement because it defeats the whole purpose of the objective of its creation. First, you can never replace a laptop with a desktop because never will a lappy meet the same performance standards of a desktop, and second until they create lappies with a little more endurance and upgradeability, our desktops will still(for the large majority of people) be the main source of our computing time.

Just a thought.
post #34 of 83
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Originally Posted by noesis
All three of you are wrong and here's why. Alienware was originally intended for LAN parties and other gaming salons not for dragging them around for school and such. Simply put these things are not made with the sturdiness and construction build like an IBM or ibook or even my brothers Toshiba. My lappy weighs 11pounds without all the other junk that goes in my backpack. Imagine the weight to your back when all your books and such thingies are factored in . Also, THIS IS DIRECTED AT ONLY THOSE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY OWN AN AREA 51(the screen size doesn't matter because they both generally have the same build[but for the 15.4 version they just multiplied the speakers), anyway here is the question: please tell me how many of you believe your system travel sturdy and aren't afraid, with all the hustle and bustle of walking and traveling, of harming your system? Take the basic action of taking the thing out of the bag, believe me this thing requires two hands, whereas an ibook or even an IBM thinkpad can be handled with one hand. Hell iv even held them with one hand and typed with the other without worries of dropping them but no way can you do this with the alien. Sure you can take it to school, hell iv been doing this(but I'm now in the process of getting a TRUE portable) but believe me i wouldn't recommend it. The question is not whether or where one can use the system, any laptop can be used anywhere, the issue is whether the system meets the objectives you sought out for in the first place. For a laptop to be considered portable, it must be light and have a great battery life(in my humble opinion). Why would you carry a machine around that brings more worries than its worth. If i were to do it over again believe me i would never buy a desktop replacement because it defeats the whole purpose of the objective of its creation. First, you can never replace a laptop with a desktop because never will a lappy meet the same performance standards of a desktop, and second until they create lappies with a little more endurance and upgradeability, our desktops will still(for the large majority of people) be the main source of our computing time.

Just a thought.
I understand what your saying buy I think you are talking about a whole different issue, PORTABILITY. The Alienware may not have been designed to carry from classroom to classroom, but this is based just merely on the specs of the system, just like an XPS would not be an ideal solution. I'm referring to the overall build quality. A Toshiba is no where near built as sturdy as the 51m. How can you compare plastic to Magnesium alloy for strength and no flex? Another thing, you say the Alienware was designed for LAN parties, well how do you think your notebook is going to get to a LAN party, BY CARRYING IT, in whatever case you please.
post #35 of 83
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This contradicts everything Alienware is meant to be. The notebooks you describe shouldn't be able to hold a stick to the Alienware in work/school environments. It may be overkill for the purpose, but I would think that it should hold up better. What's the purpose of 200 point inspections?
You miss my point. Ask any corporate company or school if they provide Alianware notebooks to their staff, I think you already know the answer. If you use your notebook like I do, and it was an Alianware, I don't think it would hold up very well, additionally it wouldn't be any faster. I use my D-600 for building automation and office work. One day it's in a normal enviroment (office-home), the next it's coming out of my 140 degree truck and turned on for work. Sometimes it's on and off 15 times in one day. The bottom line is Dell and others, who provide these notebooks for work and business, have specifically designed and engineered them for this type of service.

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I completely disagree with you scott. A good powerful notebook like the 51m is great for school. There is no logic in your argument. If Alienware makes top notch products, then why wouldnt they be great for school or work??? Im a junior majoring in Computer Science at Southern Illinois University and I have already started using my laptop for programming in Visual Studio.Net and Cobol. It runs great. If a laptop is good quality, which you said it is, then its good for school, work, whatever you want to use it for.
Your use is more narrowed and isn't really a good case for the "work" masses. Likely an Alianware will work just as well as anything else for what your doing, so getting something more targeted towards high performance is fine. However, if you tote it all over the place, there is nothing better (on average) then a T41 (IBM) or D-600 (Dell) like I have. If I wanted a notebook for gaming, it would be easy (Alianware), but generally speaking it's really a hard sell to advocate such a notebook for work.
post #36 of 83
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I understand what your saying buy I think you are talking about a whole different issue, PORTABILITY. The Alienware may not have been designed to carry from classroom to classroom, but this is based just merely on the specs of the system, just like an XPS would not be an ideal solution. I'm referring to the overall build quality. A Toshiba is no where near built as sturdy as the 51m. How can you compare plastic to Magnesium alloy for strength and no flex? Another thing, you say the Alienware was designed for LAN parties, well how do you think your notebook is going to get to a LAN party, BY CARRYING IT, in whatever case you please.
I think some of you guys need to realize that carrying it to a lan party doesn't really qualify. Try picking up a A51 20 times a day and lugging it around all over the place, not to mention dragging it out of your carring case, and setting it up on your lap for a few hours. Once in the real world, top performance is not the #1 consideration, as other more important factors come into play. When you need it for work or school, you really don't care if it's got all the gizmo's and extra's with a flashy appearance, you just need it to get the job done.
post #37 of 83
The AW is a lot of hype.
the laptops are blah!!! i've ran into so much problems with mine that i ended up selling it.
NEVER AGAIN. I'll take an e-machine over AW anyday.
post #38 of 83
And this is why I'm buying a Sager
just my .02
post #39 of 83
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Originally Posted by scott123
I think some of you guys need to realize that carrying it to a lan party doesn't really qualify. Try picking up a A51 20 times a day and lugging it around all over the place, not to mention dragging it out of your carring case, and setting it up on your lap for a few hours. Once in the real world, top performance is not the #1 consideration, as other more important factors come into play. When you need it for work or school, you really don't care if it's got all the gizmo's and extra's with a flashy appearance, you just need it to get the job done.
Again I'm talking about the sturdiness of the notebook. Your referring to how portable and easy it is to carry from place to place. Please provide some examples of how Toshiba or IBM is designed (construction wise) to handle more abuse than Alienware or other notebook company.
post #40 of 83
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I agree on both counts. I purchased my notebook specifically for school, to use CAD software...there weren't many other notebooks that could do what I needed and fulfilled my wants.
Umm...our B.A.S. guys run CAD and specifically use their D-600's. They use them for building graphics and diagrams. Never a issue or complaint, in fact when asked, they say they love um. I saw one guy running two monitors off his D-600 just the other day (CAD). I don't know what else to say except it's the wrong notebook (A51) for the need.

Don't get me wrong A51's are awsome (My neighbor has one). But for those of us who use notebooks very heavily for work, you would be hard pressed to convince us that a A51 or any present model of Alianware is a good choice, sorry.
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