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Warning Buying On Ebay!!!

post #1 of 9
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I have been hoping ebay would put some kind of warning out about the scams going on but Id thought Id post this here after seeing a post about buying on ebay here. Hopefully it will save some people unneeded losses.

BEWARE buying on ebay, ESPECIALLY Alienware Area-51m and Dell Inspiron XPS notebooks. Somehow crackers/scammers are getting access to reputable sellers accounts. They then list one of the above mentioned notebooks(very likely there are other things, but these are the ones I have proof are being scammed with) and they list them with desireable features and extras and advertise an insanely low price. You would think its too good to be true, but these sellers have high feedback so you trust them to be legit, the thing is as I mentioned, its a scammer that somehow gained access to another users account.

The BIGGEST indication its a scammer, is that the listing is open to pre approved bidders only. What this does is forces you to contact the seller/scammer where he can trick you away from ebay and into unsafe easily scammable grounds. You may not think much of it because the user has a good ebay reputation. The scammer will then ignore your questions and requests to use a safer method than you might have asked to use. He will also most likely mention that he is somewhere outside the US. These symptoms are a HUGE indication he is trying to scam you. Report the seller to ebay immediately if you see the signs I mention.

Something else to be VERY careful with is SquareTrade(im pretty sure thats the name). The seller/scammer will email them and you may get a email from them saying they know about the transaction and the seller has a deposit for the ammount you will be paying in their SquareTrade account and if something goes wrong you get the money. It is very likely this is not the scammers money and they might run with your money and the real seller gets victimised.

Please trust what I am saying, I lost $1000 to a scammer because I thought I could trust him because he was a reputable seller, and he even called me. I have been scanning ebay every day or so and finding tonns of these things that are obviously scamms. The messed up thing is that I email them acting interested and I get people wanting to try to scam me. After about 20 emails back(getting fast responses from the scammer) and fourth trying to get them to even recognise I want them to use safer methods or answer my questions I finally call them a scammer and dont get a single email back from them. Very sure sign something is wrong.

The last proof I will mention is that approx 2 days ago I found a very nice iXPS for the same exact price as the Alienware I got scammed out of. I emailed the guy through ebay and got the EXACT same VERY LENGTHY response as I did when I emailed about the notebook I got scammed out of. It was formatted exactly the same and mentions the same exact location as the other one. However the username was different. I also recieved an email from the real owner of an account selling an alienware saying he didnt list it and I was communicating through email with the guy who supposedly listed it.

Please be careful guys, I hope this didnt turn into a huge lengthy rant. I just dont want others to be scammed as I was, the loss really hurts.

-Liquid
post #2 of 9
Thread Starter 
One thing I would like to get across more clear is that ebay only seems to be cancelling these listings after enough time has passed where enough people have seen it to get scammed. I dont know why they wont warn their customers or take a more aggressive approach.

I also would like to say that there are plenty of legit sellers selling these notebooks on ebay, their willingness to use PayPal and allow open bidding/buy it now is good signs they are legit.
post #3 of 9
Thats horrible man. I've still never bought anything over $50 dollars on Ebay b/c im afraid of A'holes like that guy.
post #4 of 9
I don't trust eBay on expensive items. I mean, I could save a few bucks, buy why risk it? I would only trust them if I am the one that's picking up the item.

You see, I don't see why they won't accept money when I see them in person. I care less about the words seller used "Payment must be received in 48 hours"... Screw them. If I'm picking it up, I'll pay you when I get my stuff.
post #5 of 9
its easy to build a 100+ positive feedback account trust me ...

Do a research for "e-book" , or "recipe" ... or "feedback" ...

Some people sell positive feedbacks for 1$ ... Some sell recipes for .50$ and promise a positive feedback ... Same goes for ebooks ...



It is also easy to make 2 accounts or more attached to 1 person and then sell expensive items to one another inbetween accounts...

I know , because when I created my ebay seller account not long ago I needed to have a 20+ positive feedback to do buy it now, so I bought all kinds of knick knacks for around 5 bucks and I got my 20+ inside 2 days with around 30 mins of work...



So yes, be careful ...
post #6 of 9
If it wont be to much of a hassle can someone link me to an item that you believe is a scam. Im looking at all the Area 51M and Dell Inspiron XPS systems on Ebay and im having a hard time telling what is a scam and what is not.
post #7 of 9
Just a note, just because someone only uses preapproved bidders does not mean it's a scam. If you are trying to sell a notebook like this you are just a likely to get a potential customer who is trying to scam you. It's very hard to sell an Alienware without some scammer or punk kid who really doesn't have any money winning you auction. Using pre-approved bidders can give you the opportunity verify your bidders. You have to look at all details of the auction and the communications you have with the seller or buyer to make a determination. I guarantee no scammer is going to use Escrow.com, so that is a good place to start. Of course, as a buyer, you need to be willing to pay the whole cost of the escrow. But for a $1000+ purchase, the extra 10% for safety is worth it.

Curious, what kind of notebook did you think you were getting for $1000? An Alienware or an XPS? Another clue is if the deal is too good to be true. People know the worth of what they're selling. Noone is going to just sell something for $1000 less than what they could get for it. But a scammer will try to attract a hopeful customer with a "too good to be true" deal.
post #8 of 9
thanks for the warnings...

I always take caution when buying/selling on ebay...but you've opened me eyes a lot more...

The most expensive thing I ever bought on ebay was my LCD... $500... the guy was a POWERSELLER (over 10,000 feedbacks) ... transaction when smoothly...
post #9 of 9
I've bought 1 notebook for around $2000 and another for $2700. Both deals went smoothly and I was satisfied with my purchases. I've sold several notebooks for between $1000 and $1200, too.
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