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post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 
Ok, I received a replacement system last week due to constant issues with my previous 9100.(CPU Fan, video card, over heating, tech guy breaking vents and center hinge because he did not know how to open up the 9100 series)

This replacement system started worse off than the first one. The video card was a dud that caused distorted graphics all over the screen when moving the mouse and it eventually looked like the old NES error screens. I got that card replaced. Now I am having heating issues.

My old system(when it was healthy) ran at 50-54 during low level and idle work. Got to low 60's when playing games. This new system is basically the same, but every so often after playing for a long time it stays at 60 even when the game is turned off and nothing else other than IE is running. It only says like 15-20 percent CPU usage. NO spyware or virus. THe fans are on high. I know memory fills up and what not, but on the old system it would go back down to 54 or so. After a reboot it goes back to normal pretty fast within a few minutes. Don't tell me I have to do return this system as well. A month has passed and I've had nothing but bad luck. Please tell me this temperature thing is normal.
post #2 of 26
Nah, fairly average temps for after gaming, don't worry about it.
stu
post #3 of 26
I wouldn't be worried about the temp thing, but what's up with the video? did you get that replaced?

is your system running bios A03 as well?
post #4 of 26
yep, i think you should get your vid card looked at, if its got distorted graphics (artifacts) its probably faulty.
post #5 of 26
Youre tech screwed yours up too... I know how you feel. I wish they would just replace my system too... Then I would have to uninstall and reinstall my MR 9800. That would suck.
post #6 of 26
Thread Starter 
Yeah, he was replacing a faulty CPU fan and took almost every screw and pryed open some of the vents like the two side ones. He broke the portion where the INsprion 9100 logo is(the blue portion with the volume controls) by forcing it off without taking apart the LCD. His excuse was he wasn't certified to do the 9100 models. My notebook was his first.

I was tired with all the trouble of the first machine(an entire first month of problems) so I had them send me a replacement. Right out of the box the card was a dud. I didn't want to deal with tech wrecking this notebook so I had them send me the vide card and followed the online user guides to replace it myself.

I sort of figured those temperatures were normal after gaming, but they would return to normal after a while.(old 9100 notebook) Occasionally, on this new notebook I'd exit out of a game and the temps would struggle to go down to 55 with fans on high, but remain around 59-60. It would fluxuate between that. The CPU usage said about 15-20 percent was active. If the temperature wasn't down after 10 minutes I would just reboot and it would return to normal. It's only happened two times since Friday. This is my concern and I was wondering if another replacement is necessary. What causes this? Someone mentioning flushing memory or something. AH! So worried. You'd think for 1700 bucks the thing would be amaculate.
post #7 of 26
did you make sure you have the newest bios and motherboard drivers? just to make sure and all
post #8 of 26
Thread Starter 
Yeah. I have the A03 bios update and this time it was already updated. My MoBo seems to be up to date as well. I don't know. Maybe I'm being overly paranoid. I probably just didn't give it a chance to cool down and maybe didn't allow the system to free up memory. I did have a 3 hour Warcraft III battle and then after I lost I fell asleep at the desk. It was on from 12am till about 530am this morning.


I tried recreating the scenario by running Burn in Pro to max my CPU usage and had a ton of programs, windowns, music programs, and a WCIII match with 12 opponents while I went to class for a few hours. The system would get as high as 63 degrees than very quickly cool down even at max load. As soon as I stopped about 3 hours later the temperature would quickly went down to 52-54 C.

Maybe I should uninstall that temperature guage so I'd stop looking at it all the time. haha.

P.S. All my fans are in working order so it can't be that.
post #9 of 26
maybe you're just over reacting to normal usage.

see if this makes sense. Right now while doing nothing but Firefox and Thunderbird, my temps range 102-116. They range because I have fangui kick in high at 116F and run till 102, then it returns to slow. I'd say it cycles at least twice every 30 minutes.

Now, whatever temp I'm at, when I fire up say Excel, or other work related programs, the CPU jumps about 10F within seconds. now, once excel is running, and I'm not doing anything but entering or viewing data, the temp settles back down.

If I run some of the macros I have for fixing up raw data, the CPU load jumps to 50% and the temp shoots up again. Once the macro is done, the temp settles back down.

from what you are describing, I think you've noticed temp jumps like this, when you are doing something that causes the cpu load to bounce up to 10 or 15% the temp jumps a little too, and just starting a program can do that.

Any chance this is what you're really seeing temp wise?
post #10 of 26
Thread Starter 
Yeah, that is what I'm starting to think. However, I finally got my system to behave similar to before. I was playing Warcraft III for about an hour. After I closed the the game the system went down from 63 to 58 degrees almost instantly, but began to hover back and forth from 55-59 degrees. This time I waited longer and the system seemed to free up memory on it's own and went back down to 53 C. *I had Internet Explorer, MSN internet access, Kazaa running during all of this*
post #11 of 26
kazaa i bet and IE
post #12 of 26
Thread Starter 
Ah, wait a second. This is very strange. Ok, this is what happened. Nothing running but a few IM windows and AIM....CPU usage went up to 20 percent and temperature hovered at 59 degrees. Almost 2 minutes later it dropped down to 1 percent and went back to 53 C without me doing a thing. Are these the type of cycles you were talking about? Like how it would go up then down a little while later.

I may or may not have some sort of memory leak. I decided to tweak my services like disabling Indexing and what not. Black Vipers Guide is very useful.
post #13 of 26
I mirrored your settings in fangui rogue, and I do have to say my temps are now about the same as yours...

Unless its on my lap keeping my love rocket warm (ewwww.... sorry....lol)
post #14 of 26
Thread Starter 
Wow, you run pretty cool for having a Prescott. I though 9100's with the Prescott run between 51-54 idle and like 58-63 during heavy gaming or work loads.(Celsius)
post #15 of 26
quote.... "about..." I do run a bit hotter but not much CPU=118-120 idle.
post #16 of 26
Thread Starter 
How do you get yours to run so cool? I have the same specs except I have a 5400 rpm 60 gigger and a 128 mb 9700. I have like 25 processes running and like 3 things at start up. I'm also in an central air cooled room.
post #17 of 26
if you have fangui run the fans, you can keep the system really cool. mine just cycles all day between the 102 and 116f. it only gets into the 120's when I game
post #18 of 26
Thread Starter 
Can you recommend me some good settings across the board?
post #19 of 26
depends on how often you want the fans to kick in.

For me, if I don't have fan gui running, the cpu sits a little undere 116 most of the time, but when I start things up, do some extensive office work, etc., it would spike up into the 120's. Plus gaming, sheesh, the cpu would get into the 130's and the gpu into the 140's or higher.

Now, it's at least 10F lower when gaming since the fans are always on.

I picked 116 as the point I wanted the fans to kick in because it was a couple degrees higher than normal, unloaded temps. and I stopped at 102 because the fan would just need to run that much longer to get down to 98 could also cut off at 106 If i wanted, but like it to take a little longer to warm back up is all

figure by keeping it as cool as possible, it should extend the life expectency of the cpu
post #20 of 26
Thread Starter 
Thanks rogue. I'm going to test some of those settings out after I collect a bit more information regarding the general Prescott temperature ranges.


For those who don't run Fangui or who don't mind running a test without it on I would like to know your range of idle vs heavy cpu load on Prescott systems. The previous 9100 I had idled around 48-52 degrees. This new one rarely goes below 53 C(stays around 54 while surfing, chatting, etc no gaming) even with zero programs and functions running. Is it normal for processors of the same type to function on different temperature ranges like this? I just find it funny my system jumps to 15 percent CPU usage after firing up Internet Explorer and the system shoots up to 58-59 degrees with the fans kicking in. I'd close it and instantly the CPU usage drops to 0-1 percent. Other times I'll open up like 15 IE windows and it stays at like 2 percent. Something tells me I may have another dud system or some very bad luck.

They both were Prescott. *Inspiron 9100, 2.8 Ghz Prescott, 512 ddr, 9700 128, and 60 5400 rpm HD*
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