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OLED compared to LCD picures; FYI

post #1 of 47
9/15/04 at 7:54pm
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post #2 of 47
9/15/04 at 8:05pm
OLED is nice, but have they worked out the blue problem yet? Blue burns out waaaay before the other colors do
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post #3 of 47
9/15/04 at 8:15pm
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Originally Posted by Bill
OLED is nice, but have they worked out the blue problem yet? Blue burns out waaaay before the other colors do
Yes. Both Sony & Samsung have increased blue MTBF to acceptable times, currently they are between 3-4 years, which is why they are releasing them now.
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post #4 of 47
9/15/04 at 8:38pm
Amazing these OLEDs have great potential in notebook displays too in about a year or so.
The response time is something on the order of .1ms compared to about 16-25 ms for the best LCD screens/
High contrast ratios exceeding well over 1000:1. Best LCDs are about 800:1 now.

Daley
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post #5 of 47
9/15/04 at 8:43pm
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Originally Posted by dlukesdoom
Amazing these OLEDs have great potential in notebook displays too in about a year or so.
The response time is something on the order of .1ms compared to about 16-25 ms for the best LCD screens/
High contrast ratios exceeding well over 1000:1. Best LCDs are about 800:1 now.

Daley
Yeah. Here is the link to Sony's design specs if you want it:

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/200409/04-048E/
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post #6 of 47
9/15/04 at 8:44pm
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Samsung is releasing a 17" 1600x1200 desktop sized OLEDs for computers in mid 2005, BTW. So, hopefully less than a year we'll get them for notebooks.
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post #7 of 47
9/15/04 at 8:50pm
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Originally Posted by Karma
Yes. Both Sony & Samsung have increased blue MTBF to acceptable times, currently they are between 3-4 years, which is why they are releasing them now.
Huzzah! At last.

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post #8 of 47
9/15/04 at 10:04pm
Does anyone know how much of a price increase these will be? Would be nice to have one of these on my lappy
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post #9 of 47
9/15/04 at 10:36pm
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It's too far out to get a price, but it's safe to say it will be more expensive at first.
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post #10 of 47
9/16/04 at 12:32am

Supposed to be lower...

I read at some places on the web that it would cost companies less to make than the actual LCDs. Shouldn't the price be lower then ? I guess not...
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post #11 of 47
9/16/04 at 12:34am
^^once they are mainstream they will cost less.
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post #12 of 47
9/16/04 at 12:44am
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OLED can actually be sprayed on a substrate surface (that's one way of thinking about it). So, once the size issues are worked out, the manufacturing process is much easier, & therefore cheaper to produce (once in volume). Initially, though, low availability will drive prices high.
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post #13 of 47
9/16/04 at 4:50am
Prices will be set at whatever price makes the most money, where the demand and supply curves intersect! Always. The price it costs to make don't really have anything to do with it.
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post #14 of 47
9/16/04 at 5:17am
I beg to differ- well, coming from a complex systems perspective, at least. It's *not* true that price is always set where demand and supply intersect. That's economic theory. In reality, a lot of prices are set semi-randomly, and do not adapt. I was reading something today, can't remember from where- but, the example used was movies. All the movies in the theater cost the same price, well, most of the time. The new movie coming out this weekend costs as much to watch as a movie on its last leg at the theaters. That's certainly not demand and supply. There were more points made, about the record industry, about Walmart pricing, etc.. but anyways, here's my little jab at economics. Not that I don't admire economic theory. I think it's beautiful. Just not always how it works in the real world.
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post #15 of 47
9/16/04 at 11:21am
I want this PDA so badly, but after buying a new laptop and a new PDA less than a year ago the wife would have a fit.
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post #16 of 47
9/16/04 at 1:12pm
these screens are so awsome. hopefully we will be seeing them in a year or so in notebooks. does anyone knows how big their need for power is? more then LCD or less?
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post #17 of 47
9/16/04 at 1:45pm
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OLEDs have no backlight, compared to LCDs. Being self-luminescent, their power draw is about 10% of a similar sized LCD.
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post #18 of 47
9/16/04 at 2:10pm
From what I've seen, power draw is more like 30% to 60% of what a typical LCD panel draws.

everything I've read points to a doubtful laptop-display future (or, at least, near future), with companies focusing on small displays like cameras, phones and PDAs. While some have made larger-panel OLED displays (for TVs), they are pretty cost-prohibitive. The degradation factor is still too much for long-lasting electronics.

The response time would be nice, though. Might have to demand an OLED-screen replacement guarantee with the laptop

Seiko still says the image quality isn't on par with current LCD or Plasma technology.
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post #19 of 47
9/16/04 at 2:36pm
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Samsung is releasing a 17" OLED desktop 1600x1200 display in mid-2005.
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post #20 of 47
9/16/04 at 2:45pm
yeah, i saw their release - consumes the same power as a 15" LCD (not quite 10 percent, eh )

Doesn't mean it is long-lasting or cost-effective. If you want to buy an OLED display that will last 2 years for $4,000, so be it.

This is a 20-year old technology that still isn't quite ready for primetime in large displays.
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