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post #601 of 1072
10/21/04 at 6:39pm
Merdock, you left out the differences in the CPU architectures of the Dothan and the Northwood/Prescott (Netburst) completely. It is this difference in architecture (especially pipeline length) that contributes mostly to the processing power of the Dothan processor under lower clock speeds. The 2MB of L2 cache helps somewhat, but not as drastically as the shorter pipeline of the Dothan/Banias architecture.
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post #602 of 1072
10/21/04 at 6:52pm
Processing power: Obviously the P4EE has a leg up on the Dothan w/ it's much higher clock speed but that is really only part of the picture. For general use you probably wouldn't notice a difference however when it comes to crunching numbers you will see a drastic difference, the P4EE will absolutly blow it out of the water.
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And thats exactly why I went with the P4 3.4, I run the BOINC Projects which is Number Crunching and no where in the rankings is there listed Dothan CPU's, at least not anywhere near the Top of the Rankings anyway. I already had 3 P4 3.4 PC's running the BOINC Projects and now I will have 4...The P4 3.4 do indeed blow everything else out of the water when running them in HT Mode, except of course for some of the Dual CPU PC's, then it's mainly a toss up between them...

I wanted a Laptop but I wanted something that would crunch the BIONC Projects fairly well also since thats what I'm mainly into. I know it won't be as fast as my Desktop Computers but it should do ok for a Laptop.

I recieved the Laptop today but just now am getting around to opening the box and setting it up. Once I get it set up I'll install the BOINC Program and get some Work Unit and see what it will do compared to my desktops...
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post #603 of 1072
10/21/04 at 7:38pm
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Originally Posted by deltawalkerl
Merdock, you left out the differences in the CPU architectures of the Dothan and the Northwood/Prescott (Netburst) completely. It is this difference in architecture (especially pipeline length) that contributes mostly to the processing power of the Dothan processor under lower clock speeds. The 2MB of L2 cache helps somewhat, but not as drastically as the shorter pipeline of the Dothan/Banias architecture.
I know, I know, I was trying to keep it short (didn't really work) and simple. One of the reasons I left out pipelines is because you can't see them, or compare them at a store. Most of the people on this forum don't know enough about CPU architecture to delve into the depths CPU design. I chose to instead compare Cache size because it is something that a consumer can read on the info sheet at BestBuy. There are infact many other factors that determine the amount of work a CPU can do besides cache size, freq., FSB and die production technology, But I left them out, for the reasons above and also much of the achitecture on the Dothan is far ahaed of the P4 (EE or not, Northwood or Prescott) which can make it very troublesome to comapare. Besides these CPUs were never ment to be considered for the same purpose/market. All of the conclusions from my last post are (basically) correct though. But we will have to wait for a Dothan PCI-X box to know for sure. Benchmarks DO NOT denote real world performance (but they are a good starting point), Always be sceptical until you see for yourself. CPU design is very complicated as they are working on the outer edge of physics, so try before you buy and find out for yourself.

DanO
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post #604 of 1072
10/21/04 at 11:50pm
I'm looking to buy a lappy to practice my 3d animations for which i am studying... I've aldready waited too long to make that decision and as such it has come down to me ordering one by monday/tuesday...

what i was wondering was, me not being much of a gamer will i lose out on the pci express .....also is there goin to be a huge performance difference between the 3.4 northwood as compared to the prescott based processors.

finally i'm pretty much sure that the price difference won't be marginal.....i was tilting heavily in favour for the 8790 , but seeing that the dothan performs as powerful as the northwood or something like that i might as well opt for that....one thing i'd like to clarify is whether the dotahn will be as powerful as the northwood when it comes to things like rendering etc..
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post #605 of 1072
10/22/04 at 12:23am
The Dothan won't be as powerful. In fact, since those are multimedia applications, the P4 EE will start to seriously overpower it. However, if you're planning to use your laptop away from a power supply regularly, then the ability to go more than an hour off AC adapter may be very useful.

The EE should still beat the Prescotts (if my inferences from articles are correct, since I haven't actually looked up a direct comparison).

And I have a feeling that the PCI Express cards could be better than we imagined. x800 and 6800 mobile versions, even. That would be nice. Am I just dreaming, though? We'll see.
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post #606 of 1072
10/22/04 at 12:30am
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Originally Posted by YuriSEAL
The EE should still beat the Prescotts (if my inferences from articles are correct, since I haven't actually looked up a direct comparison).
www.anandtech.com
here's a good benchmark of the amd64's and 1XP and the P4EE and some other Prescotts.
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post #607 of 1072
10/22/04 at 12:44am
just stick with something Nvidia and you'll be fine. for games...maybe not as good, but for pro 3d...you would be mad to choose otherwise.
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post #608 of 1072
10/22/04 at 12:47am
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Originally Posted by YuriSEAL
The Dothan won't be as powerful. In fact, since those are multimedia applications, the P4 EE will start to seriously overpower it. However, if you're planning to use your laptop away from a power supply regularly, then the ability to go more than an hour off AC adapter may be very useful.
Yup the art of buying a laptop is to weigh what you're using it for against how you're using it.
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post #609 of 1072
10/22/04 at 1:18am
You'll like this, It's long but I guess it's worth it to put it here (people have skipped over so many pages that they'll probably just skip over this one). It's a little hard to read this way but if you want the full excel version (which includes PIII and AMD's line up) PM me.
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Intel P4 Soc423\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t
Model Name\tCore Speed\t~PR Rating\tProcess\tCore\tPipeline Stages\tL1 Cache\tL2 Cache\tL3 Cache\tFSB\tMulti\tVcore\tInstructions\tSpecial\tSteppings
1.3GHz P4\t1.3GHz\t1170\t180nm\tWilamette\t20\t8KB\t256KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t13X\t1.75\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tB2 / C1
1.4GHz P4\t1.4GHz\t1260\t180nm\tWilamette\t20\t8KB\t256KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t14X\t1.75\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tB2 / C1
1.5GHz P4\t1.5GHz\t1350\t180nm\tWilamette\t20\t8KB\t256KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t15X\t1.75\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tB2 / C1 / D0
1.6GHz P4\t1.6GHz\t1440\t180nm\tWilamette\t20\t8KB\t256KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t16X\t1.75\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tC1 / D0
1.7GHz P4\t1.7GHz\t1530\t180nm\tWilamette\t20\t8KB\t256KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t17X\t1.75\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tC1 / D0
1.8GHz P4\t1.8GHz\t1620\t180nm\tWilamette\t20\t8KB\t256KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t18X\t1.75\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tC1 / D0
1.9GHz P4\t1.9GHz\t1710\t180nm\tWilamette\t20\t8KB\t256KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t19X\t1.75\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tD0
2.0GHz P4\t2.0GHz\t1800\t180nm\tWilamette\t20\t8KB\t256KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t20X\t1.75\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tD0


Intel P4 Soc478\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t
Model Name\tCore Speed\t~PR Rating\tProcess\tCore\tPipeline Stages\tL1 Cache\tL2 Cache\tL3 Cache\tFSB\tMulti\tVcore\tInstructions\tSpecial\tSteppings
1.4GHz P4\t1.4GHz\t1260\t180nm\tWilamette\t20\t8KB\t256KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t14X\t1.75\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tC1 / D0
1.5GHz P4\t1.5GHz\t1350\t180nm\tWilamette\t20\t8KB\t256KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t15X\t1.75\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tC1 / D0 / DP / E0
1.6GHz P4\t1.6GHz\t1440\t180nm\tWilamette\t20\t8KB\t256KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t16X\t1.75\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tC1 / D0 / E0
1.6GHz P4A\t1.6GHz\t1600\t130nm\tNorthwood\t20\t8KB\t512KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t16X\t1.525\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tB0
1.7GHz P4\t1.7GHz\t1530\t180nm\tWilamette\t20\t8KB\t256KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t17X\t1.75\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tC1 / D0 / E0
1.8GHz P4\t1.8GHz\t1620\t180nm\tWilamette\t20\t8KB\t256KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t18X\t1.75\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tC1 / D0 / E0
1.8GHz P4A\t1.8GHz\t1800\t130nm\tNorthwood\t20\t8KB\t512KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t18X\t1.525\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tB0 / C1 / D1
1.9GHz P4\t1.9GHz\t1710\t180nm\tWilamette\t20\t8KB\t256KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t19X\t1.75\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tD0 / E0
2.0GHz P4\t2.0GHz\t1800\t180nm\tWilamette\t20\t8KB\t256KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t20X\t1.75\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tD0
2.0GHz P4A\t2.0GHz\t2000\t130nm\tNorthwood\t20\t8KB\t512KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t20X\t1.525\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tB0 / C1 / D1
2.2GHz P4A\t2.2GHz\t2200\t130nm\tNorthwood\t20\t8KB\t512KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t22X\t1.525\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tB0 / C1 / D1
2.26GHz P4B\t2.26GHz\t2373\t130nm\tNorthwood\t20\t8KB\t512KB\t0KB\t133MHz / 533MHz\t17X\t1.525\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tB0 / C1 / D1 / M0
2.4GHz P4A\t2.4GHz\t2400\t130nm\tNorthwood\t20\t8KB\t512KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t24X\t1.525\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tB0 / C1 / D1
2.4GHz P4B\t2.4GHz\t2520\t130nm\tNorthwood\t20\t8KB\t512KB\t0KB\t133MHz / 533MHz\t18X\t1.525\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tB0 / C1 / D1 / M0
2.4GHz P4A\t2.4GHz\t2448\t90nm\tPrescott\t31\t16KB\t1024KB\t0KB\t133MHz / 533MHz\t18X\t1.4\tMMX / SSE / SSE2 / SSE3\tN/A\tC0
2.4GHz P4C\t2.4GHz\t2760\t130nm\tNorthwood\t20\t8KB\t512KB\t0KB\t200MHz / 800MHz\t12X\t1.525\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tHT\tD1 / M0
2.5GHz P4A\t2.5GHz\t2500\t130nm\tNorthwood\t20\t8KB\t512KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t25X\t1.525\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tC1 / D1
2.53GHz P4B\t2.53GHz\t2657\t130nm\tNorthwood\t20\t8KB\t512KB\t0KB\t133MHz / 533MHz\t19X\t1.525\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tB0 / C1 / D1
2.6GHz P4A\t2.6GHz\t2600\t130nm\tNorthwood\t20\t8KB\t512KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t26X\t1.525\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tC1 / D1
2.6GHz P4C\t2.6GHz\t2990\t130nm\tNorthwood\t20\t8KB\t512KB\t0KB\t200MHz / 800MHz\t13X\t1.525\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tHT\tD1
2.66GHz P4B\t2.66GHz\t2793\t130nm\tNorthwood\t20\t8KB\t512KB\t0KB\t133MHz / 533MHz\t20X\t1.525\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tC1 / D1
2.8GHz P4A\t2.8GHz\t2800\t130nm\tNorthwood\t20\t8KB\t512KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t28X\t1.525\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tD1
2.8GHz P4B\t2.8GHz\t2940\t130nm\tNorthwood\t20\t8KB\t512KB\t0KB\t133MHz / 533MHz\t21X\t1.525\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tC1 / D1
2.8GHz P4A\t2.8GHz\t2856\t90nm\tPrescott\t31\t16KB\t1024KB\t0KB\t133MHz / 533MHz\t21X\t1.4\tMMX / SSE / SSE2 / SSE3\tN/A\tC0 / D0
2.8GHz P4C\t2.8GHz \t3220\t130nm\tNorthwood\t20\t8KB\t512KB\t0KB\t200MHz / 800MHz\t14X\t1.525\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tHT\tD1 / M0
2.8GHz P4E\t2.8GHz\t3192\t90nm\tPrescott\t31\t16KB\t1024KB\t0KB\t200MHz / 800MHz\t14X\t1.4\tMMX / SSE / SSE2 / SSE3\tHT\tC0 / D0
3.0GHz P4C\t3.0GHz\t3450\t130nm\tNorthwood\t20\t8KB\t512KB\t0KB\t200MHz / 800MHz\t15X\t1.525\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tHT\tD1 / M0
3.0GHz P4E\t3.0GHz\t3420\t90nm\tPrescott\t31\t16KB\t1024KB\t0KB\t200MHz / 800MHz\t15X\t1.4\tMMX / SSE / SSE2 / SSE3\tHT\tC0 / D0
3.06GHz P4B\t3.06GHz\t3275\t130nm\tNorthwood\t20\t8KB\t512KB\t0KB\t133MHz / 533MHz\t22X\t1.525\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tHT\tC1 / D1
3.2GHz P4C\t3.2GHz\t3680\t130nm\tNorthwood\t20\t8KB\t512KB\t0KB\t200MHz / 800MHz\t16X\t1.525\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tHT\tD1
3.2GHz P4E\t3.2GHz\t3648\t90nm\tPrescott\t31\t16KB\t1024KB\t0KB\t200MHz / 800MHz\t16X\t1.4\tMMX / SSE / SSE2 / SSE3\tHT\tC0 / D0
3.2GHz P4EE\t3.2GHz\t3904\t130nm\tGalatin\t20\t8KB\t512KB\t2048KB\t200MHz / 800MHz\t16X\t1.55\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tHT\tM0
3.4GHz P4C\t3.4GHz\t3910\t130nm\tNorthwood\t20\t8KB\t512KB\t0KB\t200MHz / 800MHz\t17X\t1.525\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tHT\tD1
3.4GHz P4E\t3.4GHz\t3876\t90nm\tPrescott\t31\t16KB\t1024KB\t0KB\t200MHz / 800MHz\t17X\t1.4\tMMX / SSE / SSE2 / SSE3\tHT\tC0 / D0
3.4GHz P4EE\t3.4GHz\t4148\t130nm\tGalatin\t20\t8KB\t512KB\t2048KB\t200MHz / 800MHz\t17X\t1.55\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tHT\tM0


Intel P4 LGA775\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t
Model Name\tCore Speed\t~PR Rating\tProcess\tCore\tPipeline Stages\tL1 Cache\tL2 Cache\tL3 Cache\tFSB\tMulti\tVcore\tInstructions\tSpecial\tSteppings
P4 520\t2.8GHz \t3192\t90nm\tPrescott\t31\t16KB\t1024KB\t0KB\t200MHz / 800MHz\t14X\t1.4\tMMX / SSE / SSE2 / SSE3\tHT\tD0
P4 530\t3.0GHz\t3420\t90nm\tPrescott\t31\t16KB\t1024KB\t0KB\t200MHz / 800MHz\t15X\t1.4\tMMX / SSE / SSE2 / SSE3\tHT\tD0
P4 540\t3.2GHz\t3648\t90nm\tPrescott\t31\t16KB\t1024KB\t0KB\t200MHz / 800MHz\t16X\t1.4\tMMX / SSE / SSE2 / SSE3\tHT\tD0
3.2GHz P4F\t3.2GHz\t3648\t90nm\tPrescott\t31\t16KB\t1024KB\t0KB\t200MHz / 800MHz\t16X\t1.4\tMMX / SSE / SSE2 / SSE3\tHT / 64\tD0
P4 640\t3.2GHz\t3968\t90nm\tIrwindale\t31\t16KB\t2048KB\t0KB\t200MHz / 800MHz\t16X (14X)\t1.4\tMMX / SSE / SSE2 / SSE3\tHT / 64\tE0
P4 550\t3.4GHz\t3876\t90nm\tPrescott\t31\t16KB\t1024KB\t0KB\t200MHz / 800MHz\t17X (14X)\t1.4\tMMX / SSE / SSE2 / SSE3\tHT\tD0
3.4GHz P4F\t3.4GHz\t3876\t90nm\tPrescott\t31\t16KB\t1024KB\t0KB\t200MHz / 800MHz\t17X (14X)\t1.4\tMMX / SSE / SSE2 / SSE3\tHT / 64\tD0
3.4GHz P4EE\t3.4GHz\t4148\t130nm\tGalatin\t20\t8KB\t512KB\t2048KB\t200MHz / 800MHz\t17X\t1.55\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tHT\tM0
P4 650\t3.4GHz\t4216\t90nm\tIrwindale\t31\t16KB\t2048KB\t0KB\t200MHz / 800MHz\t17X (14X)\t1.4\tMMX / SSE / SSE2 / SSE3\tHT\tE0
3.46GHz P4EE\t3.46GHz\t4325\t130nm\tGalatin\t20\t8KB\t512KB\t2048KB\t266MHz / 1066MHz\t13X\t1.55\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tHT\tM0
P4 560\t3.6GHz\t4104\t90nm\tPrescott\t31\t16KB\t1024KB\t0KB\t200MHz / 800MHz\t18X (14X)\t1.4\tMMX / SSE / SSE2 / SSE3\tHT\tD0
3.6GHz P4F\t3.6GHz\t4104\t90nm\tPrescott\t31\t16KB\t1024KB\t0KB\t200MHz / 800MHz\t18X (14X)\t1.4\tMMX / SSE / SSE2 / SSE3\tHT / 64\tD0
P4 660\t3.6GHz\t4464\t90nm\tIrwindale\t31\t16KB\t2048KB\t0KB\t200MHz / 800MHz\t18X (14X)\t1.4\tMMX / SSE / SSE2 / SSE3\tHT / 64\tE0
3.73GHz P4EE\t3.73GHz\t4774\t90nm\tPrescott\t31\t16KB\t2048KB\t0KB\t266MHz / 1066MHz\t14X\t1.4\tMMX / SSE / SSE2 / SSE3\tHT / 64\tE0
P4 580J\t3.8GHz\t4332\t90nm\tPrescott\t31\t16KB\t1024KB\t0KB\t200MHz / 800MHz\t19X (14X)\t1.4\tMMX / SSE / SSE2 / SSE3\tHT / 64\tE0
P4 670\t3.8GHz\t4712\t90nm\tIrwindale\t31\t16KB\t2048KB\t0KB\t200MHz / 800MHz\t19X (14X)\t1.4\tMMX / SSE / SSE2 / SSE3\tHT / 64\tE0


Intel Celeron Soc370\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t
Model Name\tCore Speed\t~PR Rating\tProcess\tCore\tPipeline Stages\tL1 Cache\tL2 Cache\tL3 Cache\tFSB\tMulti\tVcore\tInstructions\tSpecial\tSteppings
Celeron 1.0GHz\t1.0GHz\t1060\t130nm\tTulatin\t12\t32KB\t256KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 100MHz\t10X\t1.5\tMMX /SSE\tN/A\ttA1 / tB1
Celeron 1.1GHz\t1.1GHz\t1166\t130nm\tTulatin\t12\t32KB\t256KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 100MHz\t11X\t1.5\tMMX /SSE\tN/A\ttA1 / tB1
Celeron 1.2GHz\t1.2GHz\t1272\t130nm\tTulatin\t12\t32KB\t256KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 100MHz\t12X\t1.5\tMMX /SSE\tN/A\ttA1 / tB1
Celeron 1.3GHz\t1.3GHz\t1378\t130nm\tTulatin\t12\t32KB\t256KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 100MHz\t13X\t1.5\tMMX /SSE\tN/A\ttA1 / tB1
Celeron 1.4GHz\t1.4GHz\t1484\t130nm\tTulatin\t12\t32KB\t256KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 100MHz\t14X\t1.5\tMMX /SSE\tN/A\ttA1 / tB1


Intel Celeron Soc478\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t
Model Name\tCore Speed\t~PR Rating\tProcess\tCore\tPipeline Stages\tL1 Cache\tL2 Cache\tL3 Cache\tFSB\tMulti\tVcore\tInstructions\tSpecial\tSteppings
Celeron 1.7GHz\t1.7GHz\t1326\t180nm\tWilamette\t20\t8KB\t128KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t17X\t1.75\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tE0
Celeron 1.8GHz\t1.8GHz\t1404\t180nm\tWilamette\t20\t8KB\t128KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t18X\t1.75\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tE0
Celeron 1.8GHz\t1.8GHz\t1422\t130nm\tNorthwood\t20\t8KB\t128KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t18X\t1.525\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tD1
Celeron 2.0GHz\t2.0GHz\t1580\t130nm\tNorthwood\t20\t8KB\t128KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t20X\t1.525\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tC1 / D1
Celeron 2.1GHz\t2.1GHz\t1659\t130nm\tNorthwood\t20\t8KB\t128KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t21X\t1.525\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tC0 / B1 / C1 / D1
Celeron 2.2GHz\t2.2GHz\t1738\t130nm\tNorthwood\t20\t8KB\t128KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t22X\t1.525\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tB1 / C1 / D1
Celeron D 315\t2.26GHz\t2057\t90nm\tPrescott\t31\t16KB\t256KB\t0KB\t133MHz / 533MHz\t17X\t1.4\tMMX / SSE / SSE2 / SSE3\tN/A\tC0
Celeron 2.3GHz\t2.3GHz\t1817\t130nm\tNorthwood\t20\t8KB\t128KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t23X\t1.525\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tC1
Celeron 2.4GHz\t2.4GHz\t1896\t130nm\tNorthwood\t20\t8KB\t128KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t24X\t1.525\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tC1 / D1
Celeron D 320\t2.4GHz\t2184\t90nm\tPrescott\t31\t16KB\t256KB\t0KB\t133MHz / 533MHz\t18X\t1.4\tMMX / SSE / SSE2 / SSE3\tN/A\tC0 / D0
Celeron 2.5GHz\t2.5GHz\t1975\t130nm\tNorthwood\t20\t8KB\t128KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t25X\t1.525\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tD1
Celeron D 325\t2.53GHz\t2302\t90nm\tPrescott\t31\t16KB\t256KB\t0KB\t133MHz / 533MHz\t19X\t1.4\tMMX / SSE / SSE2 / SSE3\tN/A\tC0
Celeron 2.6GHz\t2.6GHz\t2054\t130nm\tNorthwood\t20\t8KB\t128KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t26X\t1.525\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tC1 / D1
Celeron D 330\t2.66GHz\t2420\t90nm\tPrescott\t31\t16KB\t256KB\t0KB\t133MHz / 533MHz\t20X\t1.4\tMMX / SSE / SSE2 / SSE3\tN/A\tC0 / D0
Celeron 2.7GHz\t2.7GHz\t2133\t130nm\tNorthwood\t20\t8KB\t128KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t27X\t1.525\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tD1
Celeron 2.8GHz\t2.8GHz\t2212\t130nm\tNorthwood\t20\t8KB\t128KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t28X\t1.525\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tN/A\tD1
Celeron D 335\t2.8GHz\t2548\t90nm\tPrescott\t31\t16KB\t256KB\t0KB\t133MHz / 533MHz\t21X\t1.4\tMMX / SSE / SSE2 / SSE3\tN/A\tC0 / D0
Celeron D 340\t2.93GHz\t2666\t90nm\tPrescott\t31\t16KB\t256KB\t0KB\t133MHz / 533MHz\t22X\t1.4\tMMX / SSE / SSE2 / SSE3\tN/A\tD0


Intel Celeron LGA775\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t
Model Name\tCore Speed\t~PR Rating\tProcess\tCore\tPipeline Stages\tL1 Cache\tL2 Cache\tL3 Cache\tFSB\tMulti\tVcore\tInstructions\tSpecial\tSteppings
Celeron D 325J\t2.53GHz\t2302\t90nm\tPrescott\t31\t16KB\t256KB\t0KB\t133MHz / 533MHz\t19X\t1.4\tMMX / SSE / SSE2 / SSE3\tXD\tE0
Celeron D 330J\t2.66GHz\t2420\t90nm\tPrescott\t31\t16KB\t256KB\t0KB\t133MHz / 533MHz\t20X\t1.4\tMMX / SSE / SSE2 / SSE3\tXD\tE0
Celeron D 335J\t2.8GHz\t2548\t90nm\tPrescott\t31\t16KB\t256KB\t0KB\t133MHz / 533MHz\t21X\t1.4\tMMX / SSE / SSE2 / SSE3\tXD\tE0


Intel Pentium M Soc479\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t
Model Name\tCore Speed\t~PR Rating\tProcess\tCore\tPipeline Stages\tL1 Cache\tL2 Cache\tL3 Cache\tFSB\tMulti\tVcore\tInstructions\tSpecial\tSteppings
900MHz P-M LV\t900MHz\t1440\t130nm\tBanias\t13-19?\t64KB\t1024KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t9X\t1\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tSS\tB1
P-M 713 LV\t1.1GHz\t1760\t130nm\tBanias\t13-19?\t64KB\t1024KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t11X\t1.18\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tSS\tB1
P-M 733 LV\t1.1GHz\t1870\t90nm\tDothan\t13-19?\t64KB\t2048KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t11X\t1\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tSS\tB1
1.2GHz P-M LV\t1.2GHz\t1920\t130nm\tBanias\t13-19?\t64KB\t1024KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t12X\t1.18\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tSS\tB1
1.3GHz P-M\t1.3GHz\t2080\t130nm\tBanias\t13-19?\t64KB\t1024KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t13X\t1.388\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tSS\tB1
1.4GHz P-M\t1.4GHz\t2240\t130nm\tBanias\t13-19?\t64KB\t1024KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t14X\t1.484\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tSS\tB1
1.4GHz P-M\t1.4GHz\t2380\t90nm\tDothan\t13-19?\t64KB\t2048KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t14X\t1\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tSS \tB1
1.5GHz P-M\t1.5GHz\t2400\t130nm\tBanias\t13-19?\t64KB\t2048KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t15X\t1.484\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tSS\tB1
1.6GHz P-M\t1.6GHz\t2560\t130nm\tBanias\t13-19?\t64KB\t1024KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t16X\t1.484\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tSS\tB1
1.7GHz P-M\t1.7GHz\t2720\t130nm\tBanias\t13-19?\t64KB\t1024KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t17X\t1.484\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tSS\tB1


Intel Pentium M Soc478\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t
Model Name\tCore Speed\t~PR Rating\tProcess\tCore\tPipeline Stages\tL1 Cache\tL2 Cache\tL3 Cache\tFSB\tMulti\tVcore\tInstructions\tSpecial\tSteppings
1.3GHz P-M\t1.3GHz\t2080\t130nm\tBanias\t13-19?\t64KB\t1024KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t13X\t1.388\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tSS\tB1
1.4GHz P-M\t1.4GHz\t2240\t130nm\tBanias\t13-19?\t64KB\t1024KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t14X\t1.484\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tSS\tB1
P-M 705\t1.5GHz\t2400\t130nm\tBanias\t13-19?\t64KB\t2048KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t15X\t1.484\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tSS\tB1
P-M 715\t1.5GHz\t2550\t90nm\tDothan\t13-19?\t64KB\t2048KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t15X\t1.34\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tSS\tB1
1.6GHz P-M\t1.6GHz\t2560\t130nm\tBanias\t13-19?\t64KB\t1024KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t16X\t1.484\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tSS\tB1
P-M 725\t1.6GHz\t2720\t90nm\tDothan\t13-19?\t64KB\t2048KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t16X\t1.34\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tSS\tB1
1.7GHz P-M\t1.7GHz\t2720\t130nm\tBanias\t13-19?\t64KB\t1024KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t17X\t1.484\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tSS\tB1
P-M 735\t1.7GHz\t2890\t90nm\tDothan\t13-19?\t64KB\t2048KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t17X\t1.34\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tSS\tB1
P-M 745\t1.8GHz\t3060\t90nm\tDothan\t13-19?\t64KB\t2048KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t18X\t1.34\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tSS\tB1
P-M 755\t2.0GHz\t3400\t90nm\tDothan\t13-19?\t64KB\t2048KB\t0KB\t100MHz / 400MHz\t20X\t1.34\tMMX / SSE / SSE2\tSS \tB1
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Merdock, you can put that long list within [code] tags to make it look nicer.
Thanks that does help!
DanO
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post #610 of 1072
10/22/04 at 5:35am
Ok, my first impressions of the Sager 8790 I received yesterday are this, I'm quite impressed with it to start with. It is super fast and a very nice looking Laptop also. 0 Dead Pixel's on the Screen so far is a plus too.

I didn't expect it to be as fast as some of my Desktop PC's but when it comes to running the BOINC Projects it is just as fast as any of them. It even runs the Work Units as fast as the P4 3.4 EE Pc I have, so much for 2mb of L2 Cache I guess...

I know that there are a lot of things that it won't be as fast as the Desktops, such as playing games but I'm not into the Game Playing anymore so that doesn't bother me, as long as it keeps doing what its doing now then I'll be perfectly satisfied with it ...

Thanks Luke & Adam & the whole gang over at PCTorque on a well built Laptop & the speedy delivery of it also ...
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post #611 of 1072
10/22/04 at 9:25am
ok guys , thanks for u'r help......
in my case i was talkin about the dothan compared to the northwood not the extreme editions.....so any huge difference there
i would've seriouly have gone for the upcoming 9680 but i am aldready way past due on my decision to purchase a compuer...i foresee myself runnin into some serious backlogs and if i don't remedy that soon i will probably fail so thats why i'll be settling for the 8790....
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post #612 of 1072
10/22/04 at 10:08am
Talk, talk, talk, talk - can I order yet?
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post #613 of 1072
10/22/04 at 11:45am
Merdock, you can put that long list within [code] tags to make it look nicer.
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post #614 of 1072
10/22/04 at 7:01pm
Quote:
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ok guys , thanks for u'r help......
in my case i was talkin about the dothan compared to the northwood not the extreme editions.....so any huge difference there
i would've seriouly have gone for the upcoming 9680 but i am aldready way past due on my decision to purchase a compuer...i foresee myself runnin into some serious backlogs and if i don't remedy that soon i will probably fail so thats why i'll be settling for the 8790....
Non-EE? The Dothan will come even closer to matching them.
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post #615 of 1072
10/23/04 at 4:59pm
If I didn't do 3D animation I would go with a dothan powered lappy no doubt, my friends voodoo w/ the 2.0ghz dothan and the 9700 is freakin sweet and games pretty solidly. Plus he's going to have my 9860 beat hands down in terms of mobility/battery life, but sacrifices must be made.
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post #616 of 1072
10/23/04 at 8:27pm

I wonder about the screen...

When the higher res screen comes out in Dec, does anyone think it will be of the "glossy" variety like the current one?

I think I'd take the glossy over the resolution, those glossy screens look amazing.

Opinions? Speculation?
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post #617 of 1072
10/23/04 at 10:41pm
The only 17-inch wuxga screen that i know of is the one in the sony vaio, and its glossy, i'd be suprised if they came out with a non-glossy screen for the new one.
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post #618 of 1072
10/23/04 at 10:55pm
Just noticed that Eurocomm added the wuxga to their configurator, and its super glossy. It's also a US$500 upgrade(yikes!). hopefully pctorque wont charge that high of a premium for it.
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post #619 of 1072
10/24/04 at 3:20am
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Just noticed that Eurocomm added the wuxga to their configurator, and its super glossy. It's also a US$500 upgrade(yikes!). hopefully pctorque wont charge that high of a premium for it.
Ouch!
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post #620 of 1072
10/24/04 at 3:37am

What would PC Torque charge?

I configured a system at Eurocom as follows:
EUROCOM D900T PHANTOM $6178.00 USD
Summary
Base
System 17-inch; WUXGA 1920-by-1200 pixels; Widescreen; UltraBright ; Glossy Surface
Video Conferencing Built-in WebCam (CCD) 640x480 pixels
Wireless WLAN 802.11b/g WLAN + Bluetooth; 2-in-1 Module; internal miniPCI; EUROCOM $110.00
Bluetooth Module available via WLAN / Wireless Option - Bluetooth + 802.11b/g Combo Module
Internal TV Tuner Universal multi-system TV Tuner; with Remote; miniPCI card $90.00
Memory 2GB (4x 512MB); 200-pin; DDR2-533; PC4200 - 4 SODIMM $950.00
Processor Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 560; 3.60 GHz; PLGA775; FSB800; 90nm; 1MB cache; 115.0W $490.00
Video Module 256MB DDR2 nVidia 16x PCI Express Module (upgradable)
Hard Drive 60GB; 2.5-inch; 7,200rpm; IDE/ATA; 8MB cache $215.00
Hard Drive(s) Setup RAID 0 (hardware based)- for maximum performance
Hard Drive 2 60GB; 2.5-inch; 7,200rpm; IDE/ATA; 8MB cache $425.00
Operating System None - Choose from the options below
Keyboard (Language) Keyboard - U.S. English
Additional Software None - Choose from the options below
Internal Floppy Drive 7-in-1 Card Reader (SD/MS/MMC/SM/CF/MicroDrive/MS Pro)
Optical Drive 8x Tray-based Dual-Layer (DL) Dual DVD+-RW Burner with Software $180.00
Optical Drive 2 8x DVD-ROM with Software $125.00
Standard Battery (internal) 12-cells Smart Li-Ion battery
Standard AC Adapter 180W auto-switching 100-250V AC Adapter
Carrying Case EUROCOM EL-55 Carry Case by TARGUS; up to 17-inch; Ballastic Nylon; Black $50.00
Warranty 3 Years Return to Factory Depot $195.00
Options
Extra Battery 12-cells high-capacity Smart Li-Ion Battery $195.00
Extra Hard Drive Bracket 2nd Hard Drive Bracket w/ cable $45.00
Accessories
External Floppy Drive 3.5-inch 1.44MB Floppy Drive (USB) $50.00
Car Adapter 375W Tripp Lite Mobile 12V Car Inverter (DC to AC) $59.00

I know that PC Torques prices are better and I intend to purchase from them but any ideas what they would charge for this?

Thank you in advance,
Kevin
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