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post #1 of 22
9/19/04 at 9:24pm
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I will be buying a note book for collage. With in the next couple of months, and have narrowed it down to 2 note books. I don’t need anything high powered because I have a pretty good desk top at home. I just need it to surf the web, e-mail and Microsoft office. And I looking for something that is going to last about 4 years

Product Number one. Dell: 600m Price $1,656



Description
Celeron® M Processor 340(1.5GHz/400MHz FSB) 14.1-in XGA, 64MB Video
Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition
512MB DDR SDRAM 2 Dimms
60GB Ultra ATA Hard Drive
Internal 56K Modem and Integrated Network Card
Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 6.0
8X Max DVD Drive
Intel® PRO/Wireless 2200 Internal Wireless (802.11 b/g, 54Mbps)
Productivity Pack including WordPerfect®
No Security Subscription
Dell Jukebox - easy-to-use music player and CD burning software
6-Cell Lithium Ion Battery (53Whr)
3 Year Limited Warranty plus 3 Year At-Home Service plus Nights and Weekend
Add CompleteCare Accidental Damage Service to 3Yr Lim Warranty
6 Months EarthLink Internet Access Included
Paint Shop™ Pro® Trial plus Photo Album™ Starter Edition
Graphite Swirl QuickSnap Cover
Microsoft® Money 2004 Standard
Dell Media Experience™
Advanced Port Replicator

Product Number 2 Compaq Presario R3240US: Price $1578.99


Processor
AMD® Athlon™ 64 processor 3200+ with PowerNow!™ technology
Windows XP Home

512MB DDR SDRAM (2 x 256MB) at 333MHz

NVIDIA® GeForce™ 4 440 Go with 64MB DDR (dedicated)
60GB Enhanced IDE [gigabyte is defined as 1,000,000,000 bytes, accessible capacity may vary]
DVD+R/RW and CD-RW combo drive
15.4" WXGA TFT WVA (1280 x 800) display
54g™ Integrated 802.11b/g wireless LAN
5-in-1 integrated Digital Media Reader for Secure Digital cards, MultiMediaCard, Memory Stick, Memory Stick Pro or SmartMedia cards
3 Universal Serial Bus (USB) 2.0, 1 notebook expansion port, 1 IEEE 1394 (FireWire)
Integrated 10/100Base-T Ethernet LAN (RJ-45 connector); integrated high-speed 56K modem (RJ-11 connector)
10.96" (L) (w/out hinge) to 11.18" (L) (w/hinge) x 14.25" (W) x 1.8"

Weight 7.8 lb.


JBL® Pro Performance, Internal speakers; AC audio link, volume control buttons and mute button


So that's the two I want to get. I want to get the most for my money and something that can hold up during school.
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post #2 of 22
9/19/04 at 10:01pm
the athlon64 system is much, much better than the celeron system you're looking. The celeron is one of the worst processors available (although intel has upgraded it of late)
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post #3 of 22
9/19/04 at 10:08pm
for just slightly more than that dell system, you can get a cl56 that is much MUCH better imo (see my sig) for ~$1700
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post #4 of 22
9/19/04 at 10:10pm
Well if it has to be between those two definately the Compaq.
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post #5 of 22
9/19/04 at 10:38pm
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Originally Posted by compujas
for just slightly more than that dell system, you can get a cl56 that is much MUCH better imo (see my sig) for ~$1700

who make the CL56?
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post #6 of 22
9/19/04 at 11:23pm
Compal, but there are many resellers. Hypersonic, Mitac, AOpen etc...

And the second choice is WAY better. And Dell smells...
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post #7 of 22
9/20/04 at 12:01am
Isn't Mitac and AOpen models of notebooks?

About the Compal CL56 model, you can find it on lots of resellers. If you search the forum, you will find lots of resellers.

For school, maybe nothing you guys posted can be the solution for him. He does _not_ need a powerful notebook, and even the CL56 is an overkill. Maybe he could make a better use of a thin-and-light system.

Now, back to Pacman: will you game on it, or you just need "internet, word processor and e-mail?" Is battery life important to you?
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post #8 of 22
9/20/04 at 12:35am
A mid-level Pentium III will breeze through web, email, and word processing. (hell, a PII with 512MB of ram will breeze through most office software running on WinXP).

I suggest you just spend $900 for a used/refurb Thinkpad T23 and use the saved $700 for books/food/girls. Office software technology does not advance as quickly as game software so I can guarantee it will last you 4 years.
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post #9 of 22
9/21/04 at 10:10pm
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I hate used stuff. I've been screwed so may times with used stuff. I'll by something new with a warrenty. just something light and thin that can do the job.
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post #10 of 22
9/21/04 at 10:38pm
Dell computers rock. My 8600 runs Pro/E faster than the UNIX machines that are workstation computers...

As for the 600m, well, umm, to say the least, why is there a Celeron proc in there?
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post #11 of 22
9/21/04 at 10:40pm
You shouldn't be going to college if you can't spell it.
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post #12 of 22
9/21/04 at 11:01pm
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Originally Posted by Pacman74
I hate used stuff. I've been screwed so may times with used stuff. I'll by something new with a warrenty. just something light and thin that can do the job.
I meant refurbished.

You can buy extended warranty from IBM on all of their refurbished items.

If you really want new, I'd suggest a Thinkpad X40 from their ThinkExpress program.

IBM is the way to go if you plan to be typing a lot and working in office software.
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post #13 of 22
9/22/04 at 8:22am
quality wise...IBM
mobility wise...i'll get to this later
between the 2, the compaq...much more solid and cheaper but not mobile (12lbs travel)

As I see it, if you can kill 1600 on a Celeron, you can add a bit more to that (or even subract) and get a pretty good CL56 from a few of the cheaper resellers (RJ Tech, Discountlaptops, Ibuypower, cyberpower, mwave).

Here is a sample config at IBP:
for 1635 you can have:
1.7ghz Dothan
512mb kingston
60gb 5400 rpm hd
128mb M11
cd-rw/dvd
1 year limited parts and labor..


enjoy!
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post #14 of 22
2/27/05 at 1:23pm

windows system

the whole celeron comment?!@ well I have a compaq presario 2200 and its a celeron 1.4 and its just as fast as my xp 1900 AMD processor so, dont buy into that. if you want something to word process, and surf, go with a MAC, its virus free and most software is cheap for the pc or free, SUN and another company have free office suites for linux, unix and MAC plus you might find a school nearby that is selling all there G4's to upgraade for next year.

just a thought
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post #15 of 22
2/27/05 at 1:41pm
Pacman74

Hey man. Not sure what Dell site you are configuring that on - but I found you a much better deal for the same notebook with wildly better specs (I will bold the major improvements that I see)

Dell Inspiron 600m

Pentium® M Processor 745(1.80GHz/400MHz FSB) 14.1-in SXGA+, 32MB Video
Microsoft® Windows® XP Home
1GB DDR SDRAM 2 Dimms
60GB Hard Drive
Internal 56K Modem and Integrated Network Card
Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 6.0
24XCD-RW/DVD Combo Upgrade
Intel® PRO/Wireless 2200 Internal Wireless (802.11 b/g, 54Mbps)
Productivity Pack including WordPerfect®
No Security Subscription
Dell Jukebox - easy-to-use music player and CD burning software
6-Cell Lithium Ion Battery (53Whr)
3 Year Limited Warranty plus 3 Year At-Home Service plus Nights and Weekend
Add CompleteCare Accidental Damage Service to 3Yr Lim Warranty
6 Months America Online Internet Access Included
Paint Shop™ Pro® Studio trial, Photo Album™ Starter Edition
QuickBooks® Simple Start Special Edition
Dell Media Experience™

The Pentium M processor should get you better battery life (probably a little more than 4hrs total) than the Celeron (worst processor ever) and will have a huge performance increase.

You're also getting 1GB of RAM and a Combo drive (CDRW and DVD). I included in the options the 3yr warranty (At home service) and 3yr accidental damage coverage.

Total price: $1,315.00 USD - free shipping too.

EDIT: Oops. Did not see that you had 64MB of video with the Celeron. In any case, if you add that the total goes up $50 to 1365.
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post #16 of 22
2/27/05 at 1:51pm
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Originally Posted by millsm
the whole celeron comment?!@ well I have a compaq presario 2200 and its a celeron 1.4 and its just as fast as my xp 1900 AMD processor so, dont buy into that. if you want something to word process, and surf, go with a MAC, its virus free and most software is cheap for the pc or free, SUN and another company have free office suites for linux, unix and MAC plus you might find a school nearby that is selling all there G4's to upgraade for next year.

just a thought
A 1.4 Celeron should be as fast as an AMD-XP 1900. That's because the GHz on a AMD-XP 1900 is rougly 1Ghz.

Now if you're comparing a 1.5Ghz Celeron to an AMD64 3200+ then you are comparing night and day.

The 1.5Ghz Celeron is pretty much an actually GHz rating and is pretty outdated technology. The AMD64 is top of the line, cutting edge architecture and the 3200+, in terms of raw speed, will perform comparable to a 3.2 P4 (thus the naming by AMD). The AMD64 3200+ is much much much much faster than a Celeron 1.5GHz. There's not a person here who can refute that statement with evidence.

Now comparing the 1.8GHz Pentium M (as I suggest above) and the AMD64 3200+ is a much more fair comparison. In terms of processing power they're roughly equal, with the AMD64 getting a slight boost in some applications.

Though, for the price, the system I suggested, probably can't be beaten.

EDIT: And MAC is probably a bad idea because the original poster has a Desktop PC and probably doesn't want the hassle of running different OSes on systems that he will use conjointly.
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post #17 of 22
2/27/05 at 4:07pm
Check the toshiba tecra line...good graphics (6600), good processor (Pentium M Sonoma), and all...
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post #18 of 22
2/27/05 at 4:31pm
Toshiba's are POSes.
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post #19 of 22
2/27/05 at 5:05pm
Asus Z71V

sonoma up to 2.13ghz

6600go

6.5 hours batt life

cool look
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post #20 of 22
2/27/05 at 5:08pm
go here

http://istnc.com/store/products.php?cat=90

BTW FOR ANYONE WHO IS WONDERING I AM NOT PLUGGING VENDORS THIS IS JUST THE ONLY SITE THAT OFFERS THE Z71V SO FAR

as soon as someone else offers it i will rotate between them
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