Bluetooth Devices - Page 2

Allright, it sounds like I should check out the BT500 - that it doesn't have the sleep/re-connect struggle I described above. Sounds like ofelas with the MS mouse has the same reconnect hassles the EPox has. Perhaps it would do better with dedicated drivers... I am not finding a local supplier of that BT500....

So the Logitech MX1000 does not work with the internal Bluetooth???? I'd like to try that one.

Cheers, RalphE

The MX1000 is RF, not Bluetooth.

Okay Sushi - No MX1000 if I want to use the internal bluetooth... but how about the MX900?

BTW, I know what you mean, RF & not Bluetooth; I figure you also know that Bluetooth is a RF protocol.... semantics.

Cheers

Your best solution is to search online:

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You can also try Pricegrabber.com and the other shopping sites.

I'll try the MX900... I'm at CompUSA right now & they'll waive the restocking. I might order the Bluetake one to compare later. Maybe a side-side comparison is in order. This whole bluetooth thingy isn't shaping up to all I hoped it would be... wanted to connect my Kyo 7135 Smartphone, but the SDIO card is too big, too much dough, and has its own hassles, too.

G'day - RalphE

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reburns - for what it's worth, no more problems/issues with the Microsoft BlueTooth Intellimouse Explorer - I successfully resolved all my previous problems. Working flawlessly on every count now.

Can someone with a bt500 do a me a favor and do this little test?
Take the mouse and move it from left to right to left as fast as you can and see if your pointer follows that movement or goes bazerk. My a4 petite wireless mouse doesn't scan fast enough for games so if i move it left and right really fast the pointer goes all over the screen. I'm basically looking for the small fast bt mouse.. but don't know how fast the bt500 scans.

The only thing you have to do to after the mouse and computer have been sitting without mouse movement is to just do a sort of zigzag movement, which wakes up the mouse and connects it back up. That only takes about 3 seconds, but i haven't found it to be a hassle at all.

I just tried what you said, and it works pretty well. I'm no sure of the specs though. If you buy it at a shop, I'm sure you could buy it and take it back if it isn't fast enough though.

When moving the mouse really fast though, it sort of only zigzaged in a small section of the screen, not the whole thing.

Just tried the same test with the MS mouse....excatly what MitchellO said

The MX1000 doesn't use Bluetooth.

As far as I can tell, the advanced features of the MX900 are not available without the Logitech BT hub. There are people on the Logitech forums deriding the company for this silly oversight. This final pointed question by a user went unanswered by a forum host: When will we get a version of Setpoint that that will give us access to the full function of the MX900 on inbuilt bluetooth hardware? (I understand that Logitech cannot give us a specific date, but how long will the wait be; days, weeks, months or eternity?).

This is caused by optical aliasing, which happens when the frequency of the pattern detected by the mouse's optical sensor is very close to its sampling frequency. A good example is how car tires in tv commercials appear to rotate at a rate that does not correspond with the actual speed of the car, slowing down or even appearing to rotate backwards. (You don't just see this on tv, the effect is also visible to the naked eye.) It's because the perceived position of the wheel's spoke pattern is a factor of the wheel's rate of rotation, the frame rate of the recording and playback devices, and the wheel's spoke pattern. For example, if the wheel makes 30 full revolutions per second, video playback of this wheel at 30fps would make it look as though it were not turning at all. If the wheel made 29 revolutions per second, it would appear on video playback to be rotating backwards at 1/30 of its actual speed.

If you experience aliasing often, say while gaming (e.g. you suddenly move the mouse but your POV remains the same or only changes slightly), the best thing to do is change your mousing surface. Changing the pattern under your mouse's sensor will have immediate results, assuming you don't change the way you move your mouse.

Quick question for you BT500 users - is there any way to assign functions or map the buttons? It would be nice to have the scroll wheel/third button click to show/hide the desktop...

You can do this with the IntelliPoint driver installed.

Need handholding, I recon

I am proving myself completely inept. I paid retail for the MX900 yesterday, all started fine & am now having troubles. Perhaps someone who has the TM300 working well with the mouse, preferably that MX900 will want to PM me and we can talk this through on the phone.

I had it working ok without the setpoint software - since I didn't use the USB bluetooth hub the SW didn't install, so I skipped it. When I used the bluetooth icon to search for the mouse, it found it & then XP went thru a embedded driver install for the MX900 & all was fine. Mouse worked, and when the mouse went to sleep, all I needed to do was jiggle it, and it started working again (unlike my experience with the EPox mouse). The only button that didn't work was the appication quick-switch; which was similar to other's experiences.

Then I left the laptop idle long enough for it to go into sleep mode. Upon waking up the machine I couldn't get the mouse to respond. I tried the "Search for Bluetooth Devices", and no combination of prodding has seemed to work.

I plugged in the external USB hub, installed the intellipoint software, grasping at straws. Upon power-down, removing the hub, and power-up, I cannot get the mouse detected.

That aside, I'm not sure I like the shape of the MX900. The pointing sensitivity was defaulted to slower than what I needed to cross the entire screen without picking up the mouse, and when I went into windows mouse settings, it of course changed the touchpad sensitivity right along with the mouse. Not too bad, but the windows setting wouldn't stick upon reboot. So that's when I started picking up the mouse, and the MX900 shape is poor for that.

Is this why some folks rave about Macs?

What I'm talking about is a little different. It is due to a sensor that does not scan the surface fast enough to detect extremely fast movements. I'll post up a short video on my desktop with what I'm talking about.

somms - are you using the Intellipoint software with the BlueTake/ThermalTake BT500 mouse?

Negative...mouse is the Microsoft type in the picture.

You're right. That's another way of describing it: The mouse's sampling frequency is not high enough to resolve the position of the pattern underneath it.

Call me a mouse novice, but where the heck are the left & right click buttons on the MX1000?

I tried that software, but does it let you still use the scrolling function on the touchpad?