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Any UK Sager Owners??

post #1 of 6
9/26/04 at 2:19pm
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Hi guys,

I'm really interested in getting a Sager machine in the next little while but I'm going to be moving to the UK in about 2 weeks (I'm in Canada right now). So my choices are either to i) order a machine right now and hope it arrives in Canada before I leave, or ii) wait until I get to the UK and then order one.

I was just wondering, what kind of taxes/duties do I have to worry about if I were to order a machine from pctorque.com and have it sent to the UK? I know that in Canada I only have to pay taxes but no duty (thank you free trade). I figure in the UK I'd have to pay VAT, but are there any duties on top of that that I have to worry about?? Is it really going to cost me big to have a machine sent to the UK from the USA?
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post #2 of 6
9/26/04 at 3:49pm
ask pctorque. it s the only company i have found who sell good sager to Europe.
you may probably ask to send ur lapy by normal airmail for less 100$to EU.I am going to order one to ship to europe.
in UK, you will have to pay the 20% at the custom. in my country is much less(in europe but not in the CEE).say to the UK custom, you go back to canada, they will refund you(when u leave the country) depending on the time u stay in the UK.
the best is to ship to canada I guess.
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post #3 of 6
9/26/04 at 5:41pm
The UK sucks for importing stuff. I recently moved back here after spending a year in the States. I had like $3,500 of stuff to ship over and my only saving grace was that I had proof I was a student and coming here to study. Plus they were all personal items. Do you have family or someone in the States that can accept it for you, test it (dead pixels, check hardware, etc) and then ship it on? That'd be the way to go. And if you're a student (or qualify for VAT free stuff some other way), ship it with a bunch of personal stuff and hope they let it slide.

First thing you should do is call PCTorque and see if they can get you one to Canada before you go. My dad's 5690 came within a week and he only paid for normal shipping! Guess it depends on what they have in stock, etc.
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post #4 of 6
9/26/04 at 8:04pm
Apart from the times immediately following a new release, it seems that most people get their orders comfortably within two weeks, I did. No guarantees though obviously.

If you decide to order from the UK, you'll be charged VAT at 17.5% on goods and delivery, but nothing else. Handling fees and other minor charges are included in the delivery costs (~$200). Nothing to sneeze at, but not much more than you'll be spending on everything else once you're over here .

If you order now, you'll get it cheaper initially, but legally I think you should still have to pay VAT on it as you come in to the UK. You'll probably get away with it if it's unpacked and doesnt look brand new, and it's not as if customs check everything, just so you know there's a risk.
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post #5 of 6
9/26/04 at 9:08pm
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Cool, thanks for that info Robert. Sounds pretty much like the situation here in Canada where we're charged taxes on items coming from the U.S. but no duty (tax for me is 15%, so not much better than VAT).

I think my course of action will then be to wait for the new machine to come out (the 9860? -I can't recall the number designation) and order it from the UK rather than ordering a 3790 now and hoping it gets here to Canada in time for me to leave.

I would hope that I wouldn't be charged VAT on things I bring into the country. That's like charging me VAT for the clothes I'm bringing! Plus, I'm coming on a 2 year work permit, so I'll be bringing most things back home with me when I'm done.
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post #6 of 6
9/27/04 at 2:49pm
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Originally Posted by McGuillicuddy
I would hope that I wouldn't be charged VAT on things I bring into the country. That's like charging me VAT for the clothes I'm bringing!
I think the idea is to stop people deliberately avoiding VAT or selling things on in the UK that the government never gets a cut of. If you were to hop across the pond on a cheap ticket, do all your shopping there and get back in untaxed, HM treasury obviously wouldn't be best pleased. It might not apply to foreigners coming into the UK, although the principle isn't completely redundant. I wouldn't worry about them making you pay for the clothes on your back though.

The 9860 is quite a world away from the 3790 as far as Sagers go, but I've got an (old) 8890 which is quite a monster itself so I can't criticise. I'm sure it'll be worth waiting for. Hope you enjoy your stay here.
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