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post #1 of 24
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Hello all,

I just joined the Sentia club and I’ve encountered a few problems. I’ll just say up-front that this is disappointing because this is brand-new, high-end laptop that, according to Alienware, supposedly undergoes significant testing before it ships. Oh well, hopefully you guys can help:

First problem is one that I’ve seen pop-up all over this forum – my power light blinks constantly unless I go into the BIOS power settings and switch off both max battery performance and high speed performance. Now, the two main reasons I got the Sentia were speed and centrino battery performance. So modifying the BIOS in this way is not acceptable. When I spoke with Alienware, they said that they were working on a BIOS update to correct this problem. That’s great if this update is coming sooner rather than later, but in reality, I have no idea when it will be done. Has anyone else here with this blinking problem been promised this update? If so, how long ago were you promised?

Second problem is that the speed of my wireless connection fluctuates wildly, from 11 Mbps to 5.5 to 2 to 1. This happens even when the Sentia is sitting right next to the wireless router. And it’s not a router problem, as my other laptops always get 11 Mbps. Alienware suggested updating the card’s drivers, but that didn’t help. I think a new card is the answer, but the Alienware tech asked for 48 hours to research the problem. Has anyone else here had a similar problem? And if so, did it take a new card to solve it?

Third isn’t really a technical problem, but more of a personal taste issue. The literature that came with the Sentia says that you should set the system to go into stand-by when you close the lid. It warns that if you set the system to do nothing when the lid is shut, the heat from the laptop may damage the screen. My problem is that I like to shut the lid when I go to lunch, leave for a couple of hours, or simply want to conserve power without shutting down the system entirely. Now, if the lid closing starts stand-by, I lose my wireless network connection, which I don’t want to lose for a variety of reasons. My questions are as follows: Is the literature warning just overly cautious? If not, and there’s a real danger in closing the lid without going to stand-by, can I eliminate that danger by hitting the “P” button first and reducing the system’s output? If not, can I make some change either in XP or in the BIOS that will allow my network connection to remain active even when the computer goes into stand-by?

Anyway, I appreciate whatever advice anyone can give. Thanks.
post #2 of 24
first problem:
The power light blinking is not really a problem with the Sentia. The designers of the bios may have felt that the blinking pwr light would be cool. I'm sure that future bios release will give other options.

second problem:
I do realize that your other laptops report 11 Mbps constant connection, but the utility which reports constant connect at 11 is not updating or the firmware simply is not reporting the wireless link accurately. The fluctuation in wireless link speed may be an indication of interference. Try changing the channel on the wireless router.

third - not really a problem: :-)
The manual gives good advice when it says that heat build up may cause damage to the LCD. Standby off loads what is on memory and writes it tto the HD, which means that the wireless link will drop.

I configure mine to do nothing when I close the lid. I do have the screen shut down after 10 minutes. And if i walk away I ussually leave the LCD close but not locked in the close position. (partly closed)
post #3 of 24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by booga
first problem:
The power light blinking is not really a problem with the Sentia. The designers of the bios may have felt that the blinking pwr light would be cool. I'm sure that future bios release will give other options.

second problem:
I do realize that your other laptops report 11 Mbps constant connection, but the utility which reports constant connect at 11 is not updating or the firmware simply is not reporting the wireless link accurately. The fluctuation in wireless link speed may be an indication of interference. Try changing the channel on the wireless router.

third - not really a problem: :-)
The manual gives good advice when it says that heat build up may cause damage to the LCD. Standby off loads what is on memory and writes it tto the HD, which means that the wireless link will drop.

I configure mine to do nothing when I close the lid. I do have the screen shut down after 10 minutes. And if i walk away I ussually leave the LCD close but not locked in the close position. (partly closed)
Good stuff. May I follow up?

On the first problem, does this mean that everyone's Sentia blinks? If so and it's just a style thing, then I can be more understanding.

On the second problem, it's not an issue of the report. There is a real and large drop off in speed that can be noticed when I try to access streaming video. Also, I doubt it's interference because it happens both at home and work, while my original laptop gets 11 mbits just fine at both locations. I still think it may be a bad card.

On the third, I like your idea about leaving the lid just a little open. Does that mean that just enough heat can escape so as to reduce the risk of LCD damage? Also, do you think pushing the "P" button while I'm gone would cut down on heat?

Thanks for your help.
post #4 of 24
Here's my take real quick....

1. Yes, every new Sentia has the same "blinking" power butom by default. I wish I could make it stay on all the time without sacraficing performance settings inthe BIOS, but at this point I think we have to live with it unless they decide to put out an update. To me it's not a big deal, but again I'd prefer it stayed on and didn't blink.

2. I'm satisfied with my wireless performance so far so I don't have a comment on that...

3. I agree with Craig, just leave the lid open slightly. But to answer your question, I'm guessing if you press the "P" and then close the lid it would NOT cut down on heat. With the "P" button pressed in a windows environment, it puts the laptop into "quiet mode" and the fan doesn't run. Without the fan I would venture to say that it would run a little hotter.

Good topics for discussion. Thanks for the post!
post #5 of 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by Furious Jam
Hello all,

I just joined the Sentia club and I’ve encountered a few problems. I’ll just say up-front that this is disappointing because this is brand-new, high-end laptop that, according to Alienware, supposedly undergoes significant testing before it ships. Oh well, hopefully you guys can help:

First problem is one that I’ve seen pop-up all over this forum – my power light blinks constantly unless I go into the BIOS power settings and switch off both max battery performance and high speed performance. Now, the two main reasons I got the Sentia were speed and centrino battery performance. So modifying the BIOS in this way is not acceptable. When I spoke with Alienware, they said that they were working on a BIOS update to correct this problem. That’s great if this update is coming sooner rather than later, but in reality, I have no idea when it will be done. Has anyone else here with this blinking problem been promised this update? If so, how long ago were you promised?

Second problem is that the speed of my wireless connection fluctuates wildly, from 11 Mbps to 5.5 to 2 to 1. This happens even when the Sentia is sitting right next to the wireless router. And it’s not a router problem, as my other laptops always get 11 Mbps. Alienware suggested updating the card’s drivers, but that didn’t help. I think a new card is the answer, but the Alienware tech asked for 48 hours to research the problem. Has anyone else here had a similar problem? And if so, did it take a new card to solve it?

Third isn’t really a technical problem, but more of a personal taste issue. The literature that came with the Sentia says that you should set the system to go into stand-by when you close the lid. It warns that if you set the system to do nothing when the lid is shut, the heat from the laptop may damage the screen. My problem is that I like to shut the lid when I go to lunch, leave for a couple of hours, or simply want to conserve power without shutting down the system entirely. Now, if the lid closing starts stand-by, I lose my wireless network connection, which I don’t want to lose for a variety of reasons. My questions are as follows: Is the literature warning just overly cautious? If not, and there’s a real danger in closing the lid without going to stand-by, can I eliminate that danger by hitting the “P” button first and reducing the system’s output? If not, can I make some change either in XP or in the BIOS that will allow my network connection to remain active even when the computer goes into stand-by?

Anyway, I appreciate whatever advice anyone can give. Thanks.
as for the wireless problem i also feel the pain. i've had my sentia for close to two months now and have had the same problem. even had the card replaced by alienware and not any better. i have two wireless routers and they are setup just fine for the other two computers i use but the sentia gets about 10 feet of range if your lucky. really sucks. i wish i had a fix....
post #6 of 24
I don't have a Sentina but I do have an Uniwill 223II0 which it's the same manufacture. When I opened up the notebook to look at my wireless issue I noticed that there's only one cable but two connectors on the notebook. The G card is only connected to the main antenna and not the aux. antenna. I'm not sure is this is an issue or not. I reconnected the wire to the main antenna to make sure it was connected correctly. Also, I didn't install the Intel management software and I'm letting Win XP manage my wireless connection. My connection seems to be doing much better now.

FL
post #7 of 24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by i3041
3. I agree with Craig, just leave the lid open slightly. But to answer your question, I'm guessing if you press the "P" and then close the lid it would NOT cut down on heat. With the "P" button pressed in a windows environment, it puts the laptop into "quiet mode" and the fan doesn't run. Without the fan I would venture to say that it would run a little hotter.
What do you think about setting the XP power options to turn off the hard disk after a certain period of time? Would that cut down on heat and reduce the probability of LCD damage while the lid is shut?
post #8 of 24
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Originally Posted by fabianva
Also, I didn't install the Intel management software and I'm letting Win XP manage my wireless connection. My connection seems to be doing much better now.

FL
When I updated the card's driver in an attempted fix, I did install Intel's management software, but now I wish I hadn't. If I uninstalled it, would XP automatically take over management again? Or would doing that just @#%* things up even more?
post #9 of 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by Furious Jam
When I updated the card's driver in an attempted fix, I did install Intel's management software, but now I wish I hadn't. If I uninstalled it, would XP automatically take over management again? Or would doing that just @#%* things up even more?
Yes, if you uninstall I think Windows will take over again. I don't have that software and I think Windows does just fine managing it.
post #10 of 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by Furious Jam
What do you think about setting the XP power options to turn off the hard disk after a certain period of time? Would that cut down on heat and reduce the probability of LCD damage while the lid is shut?
Yeah it probably would. That's worth a try. Good idea.
post #11 of 24
first pressing the p button not only turns off the fan, but it slows the clockspeed down as i understand it
so.... if this is the case, then the heat output shoud decrease as the computer is not working as hard
i have not had a problem with the wireless card, i have a b network at home how about you
the blinking light is a problem, also we havent figured out how to turn off the eyes after a certain period of time, it would be great if there was just a button
post #12 of 24
I guess I'll add what I think to the questions.

1. Yeah, blinking light, don't understand why you would want it to blink. But its not a big deal, but sort of stupid. Hopefully they will have a fix for it someday.

2. I've had great performance out of my wireless, I haven't had any problems with it dropping in speed except when the battery is real low and I don't have it plugged in.

3. Yeah, i close the lid completely most of the time, unless I'm leaving it on for more than an hour then I just leave the lid slightly open for reasons that others have given.
post #13 of 24
I have an Intel 2100 wireless on my Sentia v.1.

Picture of the wire leading to the card is in the link below.

http://www.slacker.net/alienware/MyS...s/IMG_7297.JPG

Although I find that Intel's wireless utility is very well developed, I find that MS has done a good job with XP's SP2 wireless utility. I like the simplicity of having just 1 "indicator" in the taskbar for the NIC.

I never imagined I would prefer MS made software over OEM utility made specific to the product. And to go as far as publicly posting and advocating it - it just seems so backwards.
post #14 of 24
Thread Starter 
Another problem, maybe related to the wireless card, is that sometimes my browser and Outlook Express fail to detect the wireless network and come back with error messages, even though the icon on the toolbar shows that the network is working. This happens at random. Could there be some software explanation for this? Or does it sound like the card? I'm 2 seconds from calling Alienware and demanding a new one.
post #15 of 24

Hibernate option...

The blinking light is OK but I'd like a way to turn the eyes off. Freaks people out on my commuter train...

Your other option when closing the lid is to enable hibernate mode in XP. Click in the check box on the Hibernate tab in Power Options Properties then under the Advanced tab change the option for closing the lid to Hibernate.

This is on XP Pro so I'm not sure if the same option is available in the standard version.
post #16 of 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by Furious Jam
Another problem, maybe related to the wireless card, is that sometimes my browser and Outlook Express fail to detect the wireless network and come back with error messages, even though the icon on the toolbar shows that the network is working. This happens at random. Could there be some software explanation for this? Or does it sound like the card? I'm 2 seconds from calling Alienware and demanding a new one.

What error message do you get?
post #17 of 24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by booga
What error message do you get?
"Page cannot be displayed" - you know, the typical error page with all the text on it
post #18 of 24
This is a test. you may reply "i dont want cables"

Try a day using cables. Do you still expereince the problem?
if so it would be the router or your isp.
if not then then we know 100% its the pc.

(if its linksys it can work 100% on 1 pc but not another. it can also bsod.)
post #19 of 24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Devion
This is a test. you may reply "i dont want cables"

Try a day using cables. Do you still expereince the problem?
if so it would be the router or your isp.
if not then then we know 100% its the pc.

(if its linksys it can work 100% on 1 pc but not another. it can also bsod.)
I've tried a cable for a few minutes and it works fine.

Another hint I forgot to mention - a lot of times I have trouble "acquiring the network address" and I have to either repair the connection or reboot the computer. What's that a symptom of?

I still find it hard to believe that it's a router problem because the mbit speed keep fluctuating, while the signal strength always stays strong. If the signal stays solid, how can the speed differ unless it's a problem with the laptop or the wireless card?

BTW, just because I'm the youngest person at my company, that makes me IT guy by default, but you guys play in a different league. Thanks for your help on this.
post #20 of 24
the aquiring address problems are normal with wireless, as the computer has to 'negotiate' with the router for an address (repairing connection is just window's way of aquiring address, windows networking is far from perfect... mentioned below)... now say if the connection is WEP encrypted, or you're near a lot of magnetic/radio interference (speakers, moniters, etc) that could explain the speed fluctuation.... remember that your computer might take longer to send signals back to the router than the router to the computer (higher powered antenna on the router/access point)

When I use the wireless I always have to 'repair connection' to get it to work, as far as I know, this is a windows problem. Restarting will get the same results as windows performs the same operations as the repair connection in the background at boot time.

Furious, on your earlier question about pwr management... hard disk power off doesn't affect LCD life at all.... they're two seperate systems. I'm perfectly happy with my Sentia's defualts.

(... and i'm only 16 )
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