Temp Measures 3790

The 3790 is probably my 15th laptop. I have had them all by now.

IMHO ... this temperature thing is a bunch of crap. The 3790 is the finest notebook I have seen on the market. The temperature is certainly less than my old thinkpad T series...

Care to grab some hard numbers and update with solid information? I'll do the same when I get home tonight.

Geesh. Left a thermometer laying across the touch pad with the glass touching the pad for 10 minutes. Laptop has been running plugged in for 5 hours so far today. Temperature is: 98 degrees F. About as warm as a handshake..

Thank you mddmx, the reason I asked for hard numbers is that everyone has a different sense of 'warm' and 'hot', what type of HDD do you have?

palm area is 103F and the left side of the touchpad 114F. This is done with something better than your avg thermometer. This is done with an inferred sensor. It measures the objects heat, and only that. I would not trust the above reading as the air on top can cause the temp to go down.

According to the direct manufacture of the notebook (Clevo) thats fully within operational temps. I have been gripeing with Clevo on the poor management of heat for the past week. I since today have gotten a confirm on serveral returns to them from resellers (more than likely sager) about heat issues. This is a good if you put it from PCT or Sager, it means if its abnormaly warm that you will more than likely get it replaced. But as for getting the bare chasis.... good luck.

I would assume there was a revision change on the notebooks somewhere. Because tons have sworn to them not even being noticably warm (draw almost killed me when I said it was hot). But its only been resently we have started to see people come forward about the heat from the 3790.

I have been speaking with the higher ups on this, they want to look into it some more. But ill be calling on a daily basis untill I hear of some good from Clevo.

the heat is probably different with configs and user sensitivity...
my touchpad never even gets warm, even after all day usage...
the left handrest gets warm, that's about it... no thermometer, but i'll admit i'm more sensitive to coldness than to heat

please, instead to say what is warm and what is no warm for you. take a thermometer and tell us how much you have.there is no point to say "Yeah it s warm, but it not too hot, it s alright, but it s still warm after 3 hours"...or whatever...

jaja... i'll say this for comparison...
go work on any p4 laptop... then u'll really know what's heat in a laptop...
the 3790 is like a freezer when compared to even a P4M 2.0 w/ Radeon 7500

anyone complaining about heat on a PM machine (maxed out none the less), should have their skin checked out or be declared notebook "disabled"

now, if u suspect a heat issue with a particular machine, just talk to reseller... get them to send u another one to compare... not everyone has infrared sensors to detect accurate temporature

HardTech's heat

Come on, HardTech, 'fess up now. It's only fair that you tell everyone on this thread that you built your own machine. As others have said, you're to be admired for the industry - no WAY would I even attempt it - but I've been trolling the 3790 threads for some time now and you are the only one who complains about such high heat levels. I'm just a grad student social scientist, no Ph.D., but I think that's a large enough sample to declare your experience an anomaly, related in some way to homebuilding the thing.

I'm not saying you built it wrong ...mebbe you got a defective machine, but honestly no one has reported heat like yours.

Hope it works out for you, though, you're a braver man than I.

Best,

P

there was actually one other person who bought it pre-built who's experiencing heat problems... but as he describes it, hardtech is very close to clevo's maximum acceptable temporature... only thing i can suggest is try to find another unit and compare, either thru the reseller, manufacturer, or another user

yeah there was one other user. and Clevo them selves saying they have gotten a few back as well (I can only assume sager, that all i know that is useing it. please correct if wrong)

Yeah I did build it, but I have atleast seen one case here that the pre-built had a problem Its rare, but its something that needs to be addressed

ah you did....!!! now we know more of what 's going on!

Well its oviously not a build problem anymore. My friend got one (Sager) thats warm. Told him to return it because hes not gonna like it. This makes 3 outta a dozen+ so I think your good. Just be warned. Odd thing is he also had one dead pixel.

Is it me or is there a trend. out of 3 notebooks that have had problems, all of them have 1 dead pixel. Im going over tomorrow to see what hes calling hot. But it looks to be the same.

Im sure he will not have a problem getting it fixed. Good luck man, the odds are for you anyways

normal for a LCD screen to have dead pixels.there is a thread about dead pixel, please read it!
about the temperature of a laptop, Hi do not know what you expect. If you pass electricity in a wire, you have friction, and friction creates heat.(same thing with women!)

you have around one year to test if your laptop works fine. Pentium runs hot, very hot. I have an old pentium celeron 1mghz. (cpu climbs to 72 degree ,try to beat that!!??)and my laptop is 3 years old, and It works 8-10 hours without interruption.the fan is constantly on medium speed and high speed.My family complain because this damn fan is noisy.I say:"I know it' s a laptop"

so take it easy!!!

your friend got a sager that's "warm" and you told him to return it? my 3790 is definitely "warm" but that's normal.

First I am well away of LCD technology and its chances of having a bad pixel or two. I also know its so common the industry standard is 5 in the center.

And I have played with others, and yes this is quite warm compaird to normal.

no, it is not comun to have 5 bad pixel in the center. Com'on, go to a store and go see how many laptop have bad pixels in the center. you will not find any!
right now, just today, I have found 1 grey pixel on my screen after 3 long years. it is on the top of the screen, first line and right in the center.

I start to look and now my mind and eyes fix at this stupid dead pixel cuz guys like you are constantly reporting small tiny defects that nobody cares.

You still didnt report us how many degrees you have? so why do not you grab a thermometre and report to sager??. they will tell you what to do!

What I meant is 5 in the center to return. Secondly I never said I hated the 1 pixel being dead. ive just seen one common feature that odd. Most people have gotten there’s without any, and others have gotten them with 10 or more. I was just saying with 95% of the people here reporting no dead pixels with the 3790, the few that I have seen/heard also had a heating issue. I do realize these two do not go hand and hand, but rather a weird occurrence.

As for my temps I have posted them many times before. And as for my friends temps they are not off by much but he’s in the process of getting an RMA from Sager. The touchpad to the far left is 114-116F. It also shows signs of what mine was when I first corrected it before I replaced most the factory contacts with new thermal stuff. His is hot all over, not in spots. The avg temp all around the place is about 108-110F. Again this does not matter if it’s running at the 600 MHz or the 1.7 GHz, with full load or without.

So like I sad before, well aware of what’s going on. I have started to see a trend of heat issues with the 3790, but I can only hope its few and far between others. I can only hope Clevo will do the responsible thing and look into there product.

Don’t get me wrong on loving my 3790, its a bad arse little bugger. I sit down in the commons area and somehow grab the attention of all.

All in all great machine, its just been a pain to get Clevo to accept that the touch pad should not be 120 degrees and still have it be in "design specs". Needless to say they are trying to work with the american office, because the Japan office is tired of me calling every day for almost two weeks now.

Just got my 3790, first impressions regarding heat

Okay, I just got my 3790 yesterday and here are my first impressions regarding heat. Realize, I am extremely picky about my laptop and how it functions in relationship to my expereince and my expectations.

I used a digital oven thermometer and on several spots on the bottom of the laptop it reaches temps between 110 and 122 degrees. On top to the left of the touchpad it gets to about 104 degrees. To me these are unacceptable temperatures. The worst part is that the fans rarely come on, and when they come on, only one comes on at any given time and only for a very short time, maybe 10-20 seconds. I will get an RMA on this and try another unit.

Anyone who thinks this is normal, or should be considered normal, I think is wrong. Compared directly to a HP 17" laptop with a P4 3.0ghz owned by the person sitting next to me at work this laptop runs MUCH warmer. Her HP has two fans also and they run quite frequently. The bottom of her laptop, after running constantly most of the day, is barely warm to the touch, not much warmer than room temperature. And, yes, she is using it to perform a variety of tasks regularly. So, I think the thermal management design is either seriously flawed on this Sager, or I have a defective unit.

The thing that makes me a little nuts is that the laptop is so damn perfect otherwise. The only other gripes I have are pretty minimal. The case lid could be more rigid to protect the LCD screen a little better. Unfortunately, I am probably comparing it to too high of a standard in this respect. I work on a Dell Latitude D800 and the case lid behind the screen is like a rock. I could probably pound nails with it and it would be alright. The only other slight annoyance is the stupid buttons in the front. I hit them constantly by accident. I understand that they can be disabled by a registry setting but it is still annoying to have a feature that I just won't ever use.

Anyway, sorry for the long saga. I will keep you all updated once I have returned this one and tried out a new one.