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CAT 3.5 released

post #1 of 10
6/24/03 at 3:34pm
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Anybody have luck with ATI'S CAT3.5 driver and new Control Panel?
I'm gonna give them a try tonight on my 8887.

FYI:
Great info frm 3DChipset,com
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ATi Catalyst 3.5 Available - 23-06-2003 - Solomon

Received word from ATI that their Catalyst 3.5 is available for download. Does any of the fixes listed affect your games? If so, then this download is for you. Below is the scoop:

WinXP & Win2k ATi Catalyst 3.5 Driver
v6.14.10.6360
Date: Jun 23, 2003
Size: 6.60Mb
Download Here

Release Notes:
The system is not responding when playing Quake II with the OpenGL option set to default, and the video mode set to 1024x768 is now resolved
Setting the display resolution to 1027x768 and running the Unreal Tournament 2003 benchmark with Anti-Aliasing enabled, no longer results in the system ebooting
The system rebooting when attempting to start a new game of Ballistic Forces is now resolved
Enabling Direct3D as the rendering device and setting the display resolution to 1600x1200 in the game Descent 3 no longer results in the game failing to play
The shadow flickering beneath the car when choosing Quick Race in Nascar Racing 2003 is now resolved
Setting the display resolution to 1024x768 32bpp and enabling OpenGL no longer results in the ground being discolored in the game IL2 Forgotten Battles
Connecting a secondary display and enabling extended desktop, followed by running Soldier of Fortune 2 no longer results in a flickering display
The game Unreal Tournament 2003 no longer hangs when loading the CTF-December level
The game Unreal Tournament 2003 no longer displays corruption when Anti-Alasing is enabled
Setting the display options to 1600x1200 32bpp in the Hot Wheels Velocity X game no longer results in the menu screen not being displayed
Display corruption is no longer noticed when playing the game Earth 2150 and the game resolution is set to 1024x768
Playing the game Nascar Racing 2003 in OpenGL mode no longer results in the display going black
Exiting the game Age of Empire II no longer results in display not being restored properly
Playing the game Serious Sam 2 with the display resolution set to 1024x768 32bpp no longer results in the wrong OpenGL renderer being listed when setting the graphics to OpenGL
The game A Tale in the Desert no longer pauses during game play and no longer causes the system to randomly stop responding
Enabling Pixel Shaders in the game Asheron's Call 2 no longer results in display corruption appearing as the game is played
Playing the game Project IGI2: Covert Strike with a RADEON™ 9700 series card installed in the system results in the ground terrain disappearing and re-appearing as the character is moved
The system no longer stops responding when running 3ds max 2001
The 3DMark2003 shader optimizations found in previous CATALYST™ releases have been removed
Increased CPU performance is now noticed when enabling the use accelerated post processing in the DivX player
Running Maya or SoftImage no longer results in the overly front and backbuffers not being cleared at allocation time
Dragging the WinDVD player to the extended desktop when playing a DVD no longer results in a system hang
Running certain OpenGL application under Windows XP with a RADEON™ 7200 series card installed no longer results in display corruption
Running the Windows Movie Maker program no longer results in the display corruption appearing on the preview screen
Running the ATI Tranquility screen saver found at http://www.driverheaven.net, on an ATI RADEON™ 9000 series card, no longer results in the system not responding under Windows XP
When installing the EAZYLOOK™ TV upgrade the installer now upgrades the Watch TV scheduled event property in the registry correctly
Playing a DVD with TheaterMode enabled no longer results in the display not being maximized on the secondary LCD
Enabling or disabling the extended desktop when the Media player is running no longer results in the system not responding
Previewing the 3D Pipes screen saver with latest video driver installed no longer results in a slow start and exit of the screen saver
The monitor shutting down when booting to the Windows XP service pack 1 desktop when a RADEON™ 9000 Pro is installed in the system is now resolved
The display resolution is now correct on the first startup after the display driver install
Playing an AVI no longer results in a screen delay. This issue was known to occur under Windows 2000 with the RADEON™ 9600 series card installed
Enabling or disabling the extended desktop when the Media player is running no longer results in the system not responding
The OpenGL hardware overlay is now working correctly in panning mode
The memory size on the RADEON™ 9800 SE not being reported accurately is now resolved
Windows 2000 no longer detects the secondary CRT display adapter as the primary display adapter
The HDTV icon is no longer displayed when Disable Component Output Support is selected
The information tab found in the advanced display properties for the secondary monitor now provides information on the driver version installed
The Bios information is no longer listed incorrectly on the Adapter Information

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ATi Display Control Panel
v6.14.10.5014
Date: Jun 23, 2003
Size: 4.95Mb
Download Here

Release Notes:
ATi Control Panel release notes availableHERE
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post #2 of 10
6/24/03 at 5:08pm
Yeah baby! These work. Get the ones from http://www.s-seven.net/ati/ , they're already modded for the M9. The ones at ATI via 3dchipset do NOT appear to be modded. I did use the new ATI Control Panel and it works fine also. I had the Cat3.4s and now don't get the boot-to-640x480 problem.
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post #3 of 10
6/24/03 at 6:25pm
Questions if I dl them from the seven web site do I just go get the control panel from ATI's web site after I install the drivers or do I need to dl a diff control panel?

Thanks

P.S. I really hope these resolve my issues w/Planetside
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post #4 of 10
6/24/03 at 6:30pm
I used the DRIVERS from the S-Seven site and the CONTROL PANEL from the link above. As with most drivers, I uninstalled my previous drivers and control panel via Add\Remove Programs before I installed these new ones. You should install the drivers first and then install the control panel.
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post #5 of 10
6/24/03 at 8:28pm
Thread Starter 
Thanks MrMsyvc!
I would have tried the drivers off ATI again, hopelessly hoping they would finally have decided to actually support the mobility card in this latest driver update.

I'll go ahead and try the S-Seven modded drivers, as you suggest.

Hope they kick ass.........

U da man
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post #6 of 10
6/24/03 at 9:04pm
im confused, what does "modded" mean?
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post #7 of 10
6/25/03 at 12:01am
Quote:
what does "modded" mean?
I'll have a crack at that and I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will jump in. I've only learned a little bit from installing and uninstalling them so much!

First off, the INF file(s) that govern the driver installs must have references and parameters specific to your graphic card\chipset (in our case mostly the Radeon 9000 "M9" (mobility) for laptops). Since the ATI-made drivers are not coded for M9, they have to be "modded" (modified) so the INF contains the proper references. 3rd-party driver experts and friendly hackers modify the original drivers and make them available to the likes of us. Some "modders" we've seen linked in the forums are Omegacorner.com, neutral-catalyst.com, s-seven.net, and driverheaven.com.

If you extract a "modded" set of drivers as well as an original set of ATI-made drivers (start an ATI-original install, let it extract, then stop the install), you will find they contain INF files. If you open these in Notepad and search for "M9" you will see whether they are modded (M9 is present) or not. Some INFs, like the ATI-original, specify the various Radeon cards. You will note however that the ATI-originals do not contain M9.

As I understand it, ATI will not include references for Mobility chipsets like M9 because they do not want to except responsibility for 3rd-party installations, so to speak. Rather than like a desktop that contains a Radeon graphics card manufactured by ATI, the laptops contain graphics chipsets (M9 etc.) that have been made and sold by ATI but have been "manufactured" into a laptop motherboard by a laptop maker. Let's face it, they're chicken and finding an easy out. Fortunately the laptop makers "often" make\modify drivers (as the ones on the Sager site and included with your laptop), BUT they don't necessarily update every single version of driver that ATI produces.

Secondly, modding can also mean adding further graphics "tweaks" and settings to the INF that will modify the behavior of the graphics card (hopefully for the better). I think the modder at Omegacorner.com does this.

So, that's the way I see it? Anyone else?
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post #8 of 10
6/25/03 at 12:19am

I'll add another question to this

What exactly is the advantage of using the drivers that are modded to work with the M9? I installed the drivers from ATI's site the other day once i saw the post here that they were available and saw a few more posts that said they worked fine. Since then I haven't had any problems with the new drivers (such as reseting resolution), but should I go back and uninstall the ATI drivers and install the s-seven drivers instead? I guess it all comes back to my first sentence of this post: What is the advantage of having these drivers modified to include the M9 in the .inf files?

Thanks in advance for any replies!
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post #9 of 10
6/25/03 at 10:51am
This is where I have to fall back on "I've only learned a little bit...". I didn't think you could properly install drivers that did not have references for your specific card or chipset. Hopefully someone will enlighten us.
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post #10 of 10
6/25/03 at 5:33pm
I've been using the drivers for the Radeon 9000 (not M9) since CAT3.2... Basically you unpack the files to the ATI/Support/xxx directory, upgrade the drivers under Device Manager by specifying to use the new drivers (by selecting Radeon 9000).
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