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Mobile workstation : Quadro FX Go700

post #1 of 32
6/24/03 at 6:02pm
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Fresh off the NVIDA press wire is news of the NVIDIA Quadro® FX Go700 mobile workstation graphics solution. This means that professionals as well as regular users alike can get Quadro based goodness on the go for presentations work on the road or just a mobile graphics workstation. Check out this snippet from the PR:

NVIDIA Corporation (Nasdaq: NVDA), the worldwide leader in visual processing solutions, today introduced the NVIDIA Quadro® FX Go700 mobile workstation graphics solution. Designed for professional users who demand exceptional performance and flexibility, the NVIDIA Quadro FX Go700 is the first mobile workstation solution to bring the power of full programmability to market—allowing engineers and artists to accurately represent real-world material characteristics, such as corrosion between metals or highlighted human hair, in real-time within application software.
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post #2 of 32
6/24/03 at 10:44pm
This has been available in a couple laptops if I remeber correctly. But from what I have read, most of the difference is in drivers only. They use the same silicon. If you work demands that kind of 3d rendering and performance and time is money, then yeah, a Quadro Go700 is a better purchase. But for me as a student, I can get nearly the same performance from a 5600go and using different drivers/settings.

The only people that need these are those in the industry who need a mobile workstation. Don't buy this for games, a Quadro won't run games any faster and often slower than the equivalent Geforce card.
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post #3 of 32
6/24/03 at 11:08pm
Not to mention machines that use these chips generally go for a premium.
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post #4 of 32
6/25/03 at 5:16pm
The new 128 MB Quadro FX Go700 is currently available on Dell's Precision M60 (and possibly compatible with Dell's Latitude D800 & Inspiron 8500), and the older 64 MB Quadro4 700 Go GL graphics on the Precision M50 (compatible with Dell's Inspiron 8200).

http://www.dell.com/us/en/hied/produ...rkstations.htm

Also, here's a post from the Dell boards explaining their differences:

"caboosemoose wrote:
The quadro4 is basically a geforce4 ti 4200 (NV28). The QuadroFX is basically a geforceFX 5600. For gaming performance, the equivalent quadro and geforce parts are so similar it's not worth worrying about. As for 3D rendering apps, I'm not expert, but although the hardware is the same, the quadro cards use different drivers which gives them superior performance and stability."
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post #5 of 32
6/25/03 at 5:25pm
"the quadro cards use different drivers which gives them superior performance and stability."

... And are 100% OpenGL Compliant - which is the big deal, because then they can stamp 'PTC Pro/E' approved on the box ( for example ) ... therefore enabling them to sell it for more money to corporations that MUST have 100% compliance.
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post #6 of 32
6/25/03 at 5:41pm
It will be interesting to find out what this Quadro FX Go700 is clocked at - if it's going to be higher than the FX Go 5600's then I assume we will see some appreciable differences in gaming performance?
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post #7 of 32
6/25/03 at 6:13pm
It really depends - the reason that most consumer level cards are NOT 100% OpenGL Compliant is because of optimizations taken to improve performance.

From my experience the Quadro cards are actually SLOWER in most OpenGL Games that a similar non-quadro model, but offer unmatched OpenGL rendering stability and compliance.
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post #8 of 32
6/26/03 at 12:25am
Kasteo is right on the money... it costs more to make the cards 100% OpenGL.

Gaming cards (and thus drivers) are geared for performance, not quality. They cut out some rendering accuracy to gain more FPS. Quadro cards and drivers are geared to be completely accurate at rendering quality, and will sacrafice FPS performace to get that. Odds are, a Quadro is clocked slower than a Geforce equivalent, to make sure there is no loss in quality.
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post #9 of 32
6/26/03 at 12:27am
Stupid no edit... grrr...

Should be "rince0000 is right on the money" sorry Kasteo...
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post #10 of 32
6/26/03 at 11:24am
Quote:
Originally posted by OnTheGo
It will be interesting to find out what this Quadro FX Go700 is clocked at?
Just came across these specs on the Quadro FX Go700:

RAMDAC - 350 MHz
Memory configuration - 64 MB DDR RAM (didn't Dell claim 128 MB?)

http://docs.us.dell.com/docs/video/s54143/intro.htm
http://docs.us.dell.com/docs/video/s54143/spec.htm

Comments/opinions from the experts?
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post #11 of 32
6/26/03 at 12:48pm
I'd like to see benchmark figures on that system - will be interesting to see how these cards *really* scale to gaming performance.

Whats the battery life on one of those monsters?
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post #12 of 32
6/26/03 at 2:08pm
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Originally posted by rince0000
Whats the battery life on one of those monsters?
No definitive reports on this yet - the only mention of any relevance that I've come across on the Dell Forums was this:

"a friend has M60 loaded w/ autocad - when detailed 3D is processed - his battery time is not significant either ..."
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post #13 of 32
6/26/03 at 6:31pm

Nothing beyond 64mb?

Whenever I try to customize a Dell laptop not only do i have to choose what I'm buying it for (which I think is a little odd), and when the customizer loads up it usually seems to have very limited video selections, with a maximum of 64mb geforcefx go for there supposedly "amazing" Inspiron 8500. I thought I heard something about a 128mb fx go from somewhere (possibly on these very forums), but have yet been able to find the ability to customize a laptop with such options. Oh well, looks like more waiting for the M10P .
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post #14 of 32
6/26/03 at 7:54pm
I think you need to choose the M60 to configure the 128MB Quadro card.. there are some previous postings on this issue.

Rinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
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post #15 of 32
6/26/03 at 11:19pm
ive read the differences between the quadro and the 5200go. from my understanding, it is merely software which differentiates the two. so, in theory, could someone buy a quadro and load 5200go software into it?
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post #16 of 32
6/26/03 at 11:36pm
But why would you want to do that?

Do it the other way around... make the 5600go the Quadro... similar performance for much less $$.
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post #17 of 32
6/27/03 at 1:38am
ok, well here is my situation. i doubt ill end up doing it as it will cost me a grand extra, but anyways. im leaning towards a d800 right now. it fits my needs in terms of battery life (4 hours), price point (2100), screen (~16Kx12K wuxga), and performance (10K 3d01). i know its not gonna tear up HL2, but it will run it and thats good enough for me. im willing to deal with their tech support.

well, dell just released/announced the m60. it has a 7200 60 gig and the quadro. it is essentially the same machine as the d800 with this differences (possibly a few other software ones as well). sounds nice, except for the fact that it has the slower quadro. im sure you can see my train of thought from there on out .

regardless, the m60 is a grand out of my price range at ~3.1K.

comments? suggestions?
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post #18 of 32
6/27/03 at 1:28pm
In all reality, you aren't going to see a lick of difference using a 7200rpm HD in games. The speed differences between a 5400rpm drive and the 7200rpm drive aren't huge at all, but if you routine usage of a computer requires a lot of hard disk usage (i.e., video editing, ect.) then a faster disk will be work it.

As for the Quadro, it won't help games at all and it costs much more than the 5600go FX. Wait for the d800 with the FX card, you'll be much happier in the end than with the much more expensive m60. The m60 really is a workstation, not a gaming laptop, don't pay for overkill.
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post #19 of 32
6/30/03 at 12:22am
More info on the Quadro FX series (link to a PDF file):
http://www.nvidia.com/docs/lo/2692/S...droFX_0306.pdf
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post #20 of 32
7/1/03 at 10:33pm
Well, it looks like you guys will have a guinea pig. I took the plunge today and ordered the Precision M60 with the 128MB Quadro FX Go700 and 60 Gig 7200 RPM drive. Just couldn't wait any longer as I'll be relocating and going back to school by the end of the month. I'll try to post some benchmarks when I get the thing!
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