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Acer Aspire 1802WSMi Vs 2023WLMi

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Arghhhhhhhh ! Help !

I've been trolling the world wide (!) web for the last few days for a new laptop to buy but still can't find one yet. The good news is that I've managed to narrow it down to 2 choices.

Step forward the Acer Aspire 1802 WSMi and Acer Aspire 2023 Wmi.

Here are the specs :

Acer Aspire 1802 WSMi : Microsoft® Windows® XP Home ; Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 530 with HT Technology (Chipset - Intel 915Express, 3.0GHz, 1MB L2 cache, 800MHz FSB); 512MB (256/256) PC2700 DDR333 SDRAM; 4200rpm 80GB hard drive; integrated Super Multi Write Plus (DVD –RW, +RW, -RAM) slot-in drive; 5-in-1 card reader; 17.0" WXGA (1280 x 800) TFT display; ATI® MOBILITY™ RADEON™ X600 graphics, 64MB DDR with PCI Express; 802.11b/g WLAN, gigabit LAN, V.92 modem, Bluetooth, SPDIF & 2.1 surround sound + subwoofer and etc.

Acer Aspire 2023 Wmi : Microsoft® Windows® XP Home ; Intel® Pentium® M Centrino 725 (Chipset - Intel 855GME, 1.6GHz, 1MB L2 cache, 400MHz FSB) ; 512MB (256/256) PC2700 DDR333 SDRAM; 4200 rpm 60GB hard drive; integrated Super Multi Write Plus (DVD –RW, +RW, -RAM) slot-in drive; 4-in-1 card reader; 15.4" WXGA (1280 x 800) TFT display; ATI® MOBILITY™ RADEON™ 9700 graphics, 128MB DDR; 802.11b/g WLAN, gigabit LAN, V.92 modem, Bluetooth, SPDIF & 2.1 surround sound + subwoofer and etc.

I've read many reviews, forums and all the horse**** that usually comes along with buying an expensive 'toy'. My main criteria in a laptop are mainly for university work and hopefully career/jobs-related work. So a processing muscle and good graphics is important so I can chill out after a stressful day with some addictive games ! (I love sports and strategy/simulation games - can't wait to try out FIFA 2005 !!!).

Now...I've had mixed reviews so far regarding both their graphic cards. And how bout the Centrino ? Is it enough to play games and run word-processing, AUTOCAD, Visual.net, image processing and video-editing tools ?

Which of these two will last me the longest ? I plan to keep either one of these laptops for at least 5 years (I know bout the Longhorn - darn !). I also rang Acer UK, the guy said that at the moment, PCI-E in theory is scaleable and can be upgraded which means the GPU can be changed in future. However, at the moment ACER does not offer anything of such so it's useless. 1) Acer has to make compatible GPUs to replace the pathetic 64Mb X600 2) Only Acer techies are certified to replace such a thing and if done so, the warranty will be terminated

So you see my dilemma. The centrino one is slightly cheaper than the P4 (10-20 pounds or $30-50 US dollars). It's also lighter, sleeker and less bulky. However, the ergonomics of the keyboard for the centrino is quite poor. The buttons and volume control interfere with the user's wrist and can be uncomfortable. In contrast, the 1802 P4's buttons are at the side, and not on the wrist pad area, so it's not in the way. The P4 also has a full-size keyboard (100+ keys).

Yesterday I almost decided to screw all the thinking and decision making and get a 1714 instead but then again, I don't like the weight and size. After measuring the 1802, the size is not much of a difference as compared ot the 1714, although it's way much lighter. 17" or 15.4 " widescreen ? Hmmm i really can't decide to be honest.

If you guys were in my position, which one would you go for ? Please advise. Would really appreaciate your feedback. Thanks !
post #2 of 6
It basically boils ddown to weither you need to run on battery for any extended amount of time. The 2023 will give you 4+ hours easily on browsing the web, 3 1/2+ on DVDs and close to 3 hours even with games. The 1802 would be hard pressed to give you half that.

As far as Processor speed. The 1.6 Dothan will perform abotu the same as a 2.6Ghz P4. but since the graphics card is going to be your bottleneck, I don't think you will seemuc of the difference.

As for graphics. The X600 is just the PCI-E version of a MR9700, it is however clocked slightly faster but It would depends on weither the game you play require more more VRAM or processing power.

As for upgrade possibility, I would say your chance is going to be close to zero on the first crop of PCI-E laptops. PCI-E does not offer any more upgradability then the current laptops with AGP since most manufacturer have been using a daughtercard design for their GPU since the day of the M128. The key is user upgradable without voiding the warranty. Which mean the whole GPU and all it heat management/cooling have to be in a simple plug in module that can be swapped just like a HD (without opening up the laptop) and non of the PCI-E design have that feature yet.

As for a laptop lasting 5 years. Without games, it should be fine but with gaming, you'll be lucky for it to last you 3.
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wow thanks for the info !
post #4 of 6
The nice thing I liked about the 1714 was it used desktop components for the harddrive and RAM. The price and power factor greatly increase with this. A 400G HD in a laptop sure would be sweet.
post #5 of 6

If i buy a lappy today

I will be go with Acer aspire 1804WSMi & upgrade PCI-Express ATI MOBILITY RADEON to X800 256 MB , upgrade RAM to 1 GB DDR400 & HDD to 60GB 7200 rpm & got awesome kickass machine for + / - $1950 + whatever gonna GPU cost
Maybe the Sager 9860 gonna be cheaper
Sorry , its just me
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Originally Posted by ZZTOP77
I will be go with Acer aspire 1804WSMi & upgrade PCI-Express ATI MOBILITY RADEON to X800 256 MB , upgrade RAM to 1 GB DDR400 & HDD to 60GB 7200 rpm & got awesome kickass machine for + / - $1950 + whatever gonna GPU cost
Maybe the Sager 9860 gonna be cheaper
Sorry , its just me
Sorry @ll , no possible upgrade GPU , my bad , it was bad idea
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