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Evenin,

Currently I am in the market and starting research on getting a new Sound Laptop for my use. I am a theater Sound Designer, but also do some mastering and recording. Speaker Sound quality is somewhat important to me because I need to be able to listen to cues about anywhere, with more than myself listening(ie Myself and the Director) and have them sound good. I am currently looking at the Alienware Ozma-M laptop, or the Prostar 4764. I know Sager has been tossed around a lot, however I think(Key word is Think, I believe they are both Clevo Laptops) the prostar is the same as sager and I prefer Prostar(Personal Preference). Money is little object, obviously since I am considering Alienware, however I do prefer AMD 64 processors which is the one thing holding me back from the Ozma-M currently.

I also tend to run Linux for EVERYTHING else except my audio editing and sometimes AutoCad Drafting of sets. As a result I am looking at running Linux and then Running Windows XP Pro SP2 under VMWare in Linux set up to launch specificly those programs. Gaming isnt a big concern for me but I wont complain about it either.

I do have some nice AT headphones and I am looking at picking up another pair of Sennheisers, so that is pretty well covered, and eventually I want to be able to record directly from a Mackie Onyx board I will be getting in about a year(The 1640 I think it is, 16 channel 4 bus) as well as runnning playback off of my laptop. I am very curious to hear other people's opinions on this or recomendations on where to go to look for more info. Thanks

Seablade
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The laptop itself doesn't matter too much so much as the kind of sound hardware you use with it. From what I've seen and heard, no laptop does very good sound out of the built-in speakers. Might be good enough to get an idea of what's going on, but you'll probably have problems with the limited range of laptop speakers and therefore get distortion, loss of bass, and so forth. You might then need to find some external speakers, which would limit your portability.

And since laptop builin sound chips are uniformly terrible and noisy, you'll need some kind of external audio interface to record from your mixing board. Something like the simple Echo Indigo I/O (one 1/8" in and one 1/8" out) which fits in a PCMCIA slot, to the M-Audio USB/Firewire interfaces with as much as 18 ins and 14 outs. For an idea of the latter type from M-Audio, see http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=...bileinterfaces

I own a Sager 8790 and do software sample-based composition, going through the above mentioned Indigo I/O and headphones, with a small mic-preamp connected to do vocal or sound effects/foley recordings.

A final consideration might be laptop noise from cooling fans. Pentium-Mobile processors are obviously going to be cooler and therefore more quiet than non-Mobile chips, in this respect. I can't say how well AMD64's power saving features affect the laptop's fan noise, but I hear they are better than Pentium4 chips in terms of thermal characteristics.
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Well in as far as recording, the nice thing(And one of the largest reasons I am getting) the Mackie Onyx small format mixer is that it has the option of a direct firewire interface built into it, allowing recording of each channel individually for remixing later as well as two outputs direct to the board.

Fans are definitly a matter of interest to me. I thought I had heard the opposite in as far as which chip was better for power saving, though I could be wrong. Power isnt a huge importance to me though I do like the battery to last at least 2 hours. Thermal is a bit important to me and again I though I heard AMD was worse, so a well designed cooling system makes a huge difference, my current laptop is an HP with one cooling fan in one corner and nothing else and overheats and shuts itself off way to often for my taste, especially when the throtolling for pwoersaving is turned off(Like when I have it plugged in)


In as far as recording hardware though not so much, as I said most of my hardware tends to be along the pro lines anyways, though at least a semi decent sound card able to put out not great but decent sound through its speakers is somewhat important. This is in part why I was considering the ProStar computer due to the added subwoofer in it, while it dont really do crud for a subwoofer, it may add enough depth in the mids to mid lows to make a difference in the listening(Input on this please?. Of course Alienware advertises the speakers in the Ozma as being "Enhanced" which I am curious as what they mean by enhanced(More input if any is out there?. If I do any audio editing though it will be through my headphones, not the speakers so I mainly need them for listening sessions, either with an assistant designer or director, or maybe even more important, interview where I need to show off my portfolio(Though I may just bring speakers for those cases

I would definitly not be recording anything to use for more than personal use through the built in soundcard so that is no issue for me. I have a small studio set up for anything I would use in a show, and mainly recording onto the laptop would be of shows to be mastered later for archiving.

Thanks again
Seablade
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You couldn't have heard that Pentium-M chips are WORSE for power saving, because that'd be dead wrong -- the whole reason they're 'mobile' is that they are made to save power (and therefore heat.) To get 2 hours of battery time out of most Pentium4 based laptops is going to be very tough. So you should go with a Pentium-M, which are getting 3-5 hours of battery time while being quite competitive with non-Mobile processors. Pent.-M 1.7GhZ chips end up being about as fast as P4 3.0+GHz chips, so that should be plenty for most audio processing situations. Don't know about AMD64s.

For fan noise, I don't own a P-M chip, so you may have to browse other forums to ask about the specifics of various models, but on the whole just the fact that P-M chips use less power means that they will be cooler and quieter.
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You couldn't have heard that Pentium-M chips are WORSE for power saving, because that'd be dead wrong -- the whole reason they're 'mobile' is that they are made to save power (and therefore heat.) To get 2 hours of battery time out of most Pentium4 based laptops is going to be very tough. So you should go with a Pentium-M, which are getting 3-5 hours of battery time while being quite competitive with non-Mobile processors. Pent.-M 1.7GhZ chips end up being about as fast as P4 3.0+GHz chips, so that should be plenty for most audio processing situations. Don't know about AMD64s.

For fan noise, I don't own a P-M chip, so you may have to browse other forums to ask about the specifics of various models, but on the whole just the fact that P-M chips use less power means that they will be cooler and quieter.
Ahh I think you misunderstood what I meant, I was meaning I thought I had heard that AMD chips in general were a bit worse for power saving than pentium chips in general, however I did a lot of research along other courses yesterday and think I may have heard wrong now, the PowerNow technology impressed at least a few people apparently from what I have read.

I also looked at the AMD based Voodoo laptop yesterday and it seems worth a look at the very least to me, comparitive to the Alienware with the features I would like, though I am still looking and hanging on to the hope that with the ODM for alienware now putting out a AMD based board and rumors of the AMD laptops coming from there that they may release an AMD based Ozma on the alienware end which has a very strong possibility of selling me on it right there.

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