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Knoppix

post #1 of 22
7/9/03 at 3:46am
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If you want to try a linux distro without partitioning and installing to your HD try knoppix, its a CD version. I'm running it as I write this. I have some windows drives on the local network mounted via smbmount and playing mp3's through the network. Lots of nice utilities and programs to play with to get the feel for linux.

GIve it a a try, http://www.knopper.net

Mack
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post #2 of 22
7/9/03 at 4:19am
What Sager are you running this on?

When I boot up is goes to a black screen after the bootloader runs.
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post #3 of 22
7/9/03 at 1:59pm
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A sager 5660-C. 2.4 gig P4, ATI 9000, 5600rpm drive, 1600x1280 screen - Knoppix seems to only run in 1280x1024 though, at 1600 its jacked. 512K DDR CD-R combo drive. The LCD is the one before the nice viewing angle upgrade, I purchased my sager for this past xmas

Mack
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post #4 of 22
8/2/03 at 12:46am
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Originally posted by bob6987
What Sager are you running this on?

When I boot up is goes to a black screen after the bootloader runs.
Pass the kernel the nofb-option. Like "knoppix nofb", that should disable framebuffer, and it should boot fine.. This happens on my desktop-system. It's most probably an ACPI-issue preventing your framebuffer from working..
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post #5 of 22
8/2/03 at 1:08am
Hey, there's that guys from the Gentoo forums. Wuzzap!
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post #6 of 22
8/2/03 at 1:47am
Not much, I'm looking for a lappy now, gonna buy as soon as I can afford (september/october I hope), and unless a lightning strikes me or something, it's gonna be a sarger! Haven't decided on model yet.. For all I know they could roll out new models within this time-limit.. And yes, I'm the same guy from the gentoo-forums.. And the #gentoo@undernet too
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post #7 of 22
8/5/05 at 2:26am
When I first got my Overam 8800 (sager 8890), I got it without any OS as I did not want to pay Microsoft anything. Before installing SuSE 9.0, I ran knoppix so I could do stuff like "lspci", look in the hardware interrupts, dma, etc. Knoppix worked fine for me doing this.
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post #8 of 22
8/5/05 at 3:37pm
why in the hell would you want to install suse? its slow, crappy, and HUGE?
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post #9 of 22
8/5/05 at 9:55pm
Yo chill out bro. To each their own. You seem to be a bit pissy lately especially to the NBF newbs/low posters. If he/she wants to run linux who cares what distro it is. I have my favorite, but I don't go off on other distros. Maybe you can site some points of difference between thier chosen distro and one you would favor and why instead of unhelpful opinion. I didn't give you any crap when I was helping you out on IM did I. I could have not even tried to help.
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post #10 of 22
8/5/05 at 10:52pm
My beef with SUSE is the same as with Mandrake and RH/FC. They require you to download 5 ISO files which is a total waste, and still fail to work 1/2 the time.

Downloading 5 ISOs is a waste:
In the fast paced world of linux, there is no point in having old versions of software saved on some CD, just a waste of a good CD-R in my opinion. I think the distro should have just 1 ISO which contains the basic installer files, and everything else comes from the net so its fresh (much like Debian's net installer or the OneBase installer.)

Doesn't work 1/2 the time:
Neither FC 1, 2, 3, 4, Suse 9.1 Personal, 9.1 Pro, and 9.3 Pro, RH8, Mandrake 10, Mandrake 10.1 AMD64 RC1, all failed to work on either my desktop or laptop which well, sucks. There is no out of the box support for anything.

SLOW LIKE A DOG:
Because it is built to work on most hardware, it loads a lot of stuff that a typical computer doesn't need. In other words, it is totaly opposite from what Gentoo is based on (that is why it is so much SLOWER than gentoo). At any rate, its just a freaken waste.


does this prove a point bsmith?
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post #11 of 22
8/6/05 at 12:47am
I think you missed my point entirely. I was just trying to say that if you don't like their chosen distro give reasons for your point of view. Instead of coming off as a jerk you would be taken as someone who is trying to help, which I do think you are trying to do. I'll leave it that. If you want to go deeper into this you have my IM or you can PM me.
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post #12 of 22
8/6/05 at 12:56am
right, so you wanted reasons why i don't like a given distro (suse). and that is exactly what i provided...REASONS why i don't like suse
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post #13 of 22
8/6/05 at 12:44pm
I have Knoppix burned to a CDR, but when I try to run it, I get the following message:

"EMM386: Warning: Address Line A20 already enabled"

What am I doing wrong? I really want to try this out.

Thanks.
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post #14 of 22
8/7/05 at 12:39am
I just searched the knoppix forums the only things I saw was a reference to a bad burn. Maybe try a redown load and burn it again.
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post #15 of 22
8/7/05 at 10:42am
Yea, I thought that might be the problem, so I reburned. Now, the CD just hangs at a Gray screen with an "X" for a cursor. I even left it on all night, just in case something would happen, which it didn't.

Any idea about this one? lol.
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post #16 of 22
8/7/05 at 9:22pm
Haow about passing it some options at boot for no frame buffer or something???
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post #17 of 22
8/7/05 at 9:41pm
Well I ran testcd this past time I tried to boot it, and it seems that KNOPPIX/KNOPPIX failed the test.

I take it that would be the problem, but I have no idea why it would just fail after burning, unless the ISO was messed up in the first place... I'll probably try to get another ISO from another mirror and pick up more CDs tomorrow and try again.

If thats not the problem, can I get the line that I should use to boot with no framebuffer?

Thanks.
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post #18 of 22
8/8/05 at 12:38pm
this prog is great on desktops...

if you forgot your windows pswd or windows stupidly locked a harddrive (my windows partition crashed, and then wouldnt let me access the files with a new install because they were protected), with knoppix you can get right to them

its nice and useful... good for also diagnosing problems. if something doesn twork in windows u can try knoppix and find out if its a hardware or software issue
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post #19 of 22
8/8/05 at 1:57pm
I downloaded the Knoppix 4.0 Live DVD but it is really really slow and I can't figure out how to get my internet working with it...
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post #20 of 22
8/8/05 at 8:15pm
ABF, as far as I know, suse only started doing ISO images recently, within the last year. Up to that point it had been a net-only install for non-purchasers, but then again ive never used suse.

Ive had trouble with knoppix and net drivers for my sager 4880, and to be honest, ive had net driver issues with all bootable cds because of the gigabit ethernet drivers in the 2.6 kernel. Other than that, knoppix and other live cds are a great way to test out linux or do diagnostic work on a system before installation and such.
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