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post #21 of 46
10/26/04 at 6:10pm
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Originally Posted by Uriel
its weigth is 3 lbs without the optical drive and with the extended battery. with the normal battery its lighter.

and how the hell a 10.6' inch-er can be too big? is he looking for a PDA or a notebook?

ive owned the fujitsu P5000 and p7000 and can definetely see a smaller than notebook than it being better for some things, especialy when a optical drive is not necessary.
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post #22 of 46
10/26/04 at 6:50pm
The JVC interlink MP-XP 7310 fits the bill. There are always some on ebay.
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post #23 of 46
10/27/04 at 2:47pm
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Originally Posted by pplepiew
My only reserve against the Thinkpad is that its a fullsize keyboard. I can't see it being that small with a fullsized keyboard. Processor and Battery is good though.
If you mean the x40, yes it is full size, and yes it is that small For real. I tried it a couple of weeks ago. All they did was make all the keys a certain percentage smaller, and suddenly they fit.
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post #24 of 46
10/27/04 at 4:07pm
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Originally Posted by Alt
The JVC interlink MP-XP 7310 fits the bill. There are always some on ebay.
The keyboard on that one isnt too small to use?
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post #25 of 46
10/27/04 at 5:39pm
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the p series from fujitsu gets 10,5 hours.
The Sony u101 got 8 to 13.5 hours but of course, like a lot of very cool sony products, its discontinued.

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If you mean the x40, yes it is full size, and yes it is that small For real. I tried it a couple of weeks ago. All they did was make all the keys a certain percentage smaller, and suddenly they fit.
Oh ok, I thought full size meant full size...I was looking at my thinkpads keyboard and imagining it without the extra centimeter on each side. I think my father is biased against Thinkpads though, guess I'll have to email him about it. Either way it should definitely be a contender...but...

The JVC is getting closer to the mark. I think the keyboard would be comparable to the picturebook's. The new JVC model of course has an integrated cd/dvd-rom though, that sucks. Its either uberslim notebook which weighs nothing but have only 20gb HD or sub-notebooks with redundant optical drives which just add bulk and weight. When you really need one you just use an external USB one.

Or a model that's one or two years old with a so-so processor. Unless the MP-XP 7310 has been upgraded to a Pentium-M? I've only found year old sites on it...With a 1Ghz Pentium-M it'd be really interesting. But then that'd be their new model without the optical drive...
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post #26 of 46
10/28/04 at 1:24pm
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Originally Posted by Enderet
The keyboard on that one isnt too small to use?
I saw a video of that model and the user could touch type with both hands side by side.

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Originally Posted by pplepiew
Unless the MP-XP 7310 has been upgraded to a Pentium-M? I've only found year old sites on it...With a 1Ghz Pentium-M it'd be really interesting. But then that'd be their new model without the optical drive...
Yea the model with the integrated drive (831) was a step backwards for JVC in my opinion. But that came after the 7310 and is called the MP-XV. The 7310 is part of the MP-XP family, and yes it has a 1 gig pentium-M.Unfortunatly it has been out of production for more than 6 months at this point. There are still a few boxed ones floating around, Do a search for "jvc" under "other laptops" on ebay.There is a guy who has been putting up boxed "buy now" xp7310s for months. I think its buy now for $1960.With extras.
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post #27 of 46
10/28/04 at 3:57pm
why do u need 2 pounds 3 pounds is so light
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post #28 of 46
10/28/04 at 4:12pm
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Originally Posted by AzN
why do u need 2 pounds 3 pounds is so light
When it comes to ultraportables... even half a pound is a noticable difference.
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post #29 of 46
10/29/04 at 11:43am
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Thanks Alt!

I checked eBay and you were right. I didn't check before 'cause I assumed they'd be refurbished or something. That's really really close to the mark...under 2000 with 5.5hour battery life, 1Ghz Pentium and already upgraded to 512 DDR, all around 2lbs.

Btw, the successor of this comp is: http://www.dynamism.com/xp741/specs.shtml

Its shipping in Japan in mid-november based on what I've read on a website. On dynamism and other american resellers...I read that the comp would sell for about 200 000 Yen or about 1900USD. Dynamism (and others) prices it at 2500USD.

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That's one heck of a markup.

Btw, is there a huge difference between a Centrino 1Ghz and a Pentium-M Dolan 1.1 Ghz? Its the one difference I've noticed between the 7310 and the 741.
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post #30 of 46
10/29/04 at 2:28pm
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Originally Posted by pplepiew
Thanks Alt!

I checked eBay and you were right. I didn't check before 'cause I assumed they'd be refurbished or something. That's really really close to the mark...under 2000 with 5.5hour battery life, 1Ghz Pentium and already upgraded to 512 DDR, all around 2lbs.

Btw, the successor of this comp is: http://www.dynamism.com/xp741/specs.shtml

Its shipping in Japan in mid-november based on what I've read on a website. On dynamism and other american resellers...I read that the comp would sell for about 200 000 Yen or about 1900USD. Dynamism (and others) prices it at 2500USD.

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That's one heck of a markup.

Btw, is there a huge difference between a Centrino 1Ghz and a Pentium-M Dolan 1.1 Ghz? Its the one difference I've noticed between the 7310 and the 741.

Well it is only a difference of about 150MHz in P4 terms. The extra 2mb of cache wont make that much of a difference, especialy considering what you are going to use it for.
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post #31 of 46
10/30/04 at 1:22am
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Originally Posted by pplepiew
Btw, the successor of this comp is: http://www.dynamism.com/xp741/specs.shtml

Its shipping in Japan in mid-november based on what I've read on a website. On dynamism and other american resellers...I read that the comp would sell for about 200 000 Yen or about 1900USD. Dynamism (and others) prices it at 2500USD.

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That's one heck of a markup.

Yea that is one heck of a markup.
There are a few options around that are a little less expensive than the big "D" . www.conics.net is one, but im not sure if he is still around as he failed to return TWO of my emails asking about priceing . Another option is http://www.kemplar.com ...
Actually you could most likely find a round trip ticket to Japan for less than $600 if you looked around...

One good thing about the 741 comeing out is that its sure to drive down prices for the 7310, well, that is if anyone wants to sell. Those things are really hard to find, folks dont even want to let go of the old Pentium3 models...

Another option is the Asus S200N .Its the same notebook as the 7310, but even harder to find in the states...


http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mob...notebooks.html
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post #32 of 46
10/30/04 at 2:38pm
Two pounds but larger screen... and 11 hours battery life...

Sharp Actius MM20
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post #33 of 46
10/30/04 at 4:48pm
11 hours with the high capacity battery... which adds how much weight?
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post #34 of 46
10/30/04 at 5:56pm
2.6 lbs with the large extended battery, 2.3 with the midsize.

The mm20 might be the way to go if you only need to do basic tasks...it's fine for that.
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post #35 of 46
10/30/04 at 5:58pm
Yeah it seems like a good notebook and the Transmeta efficion isnt that bad.
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post #36 of 46
10/31/04 at 6:37am
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Actually you could most likely find a round trip ticket to Japan for less than $600 if you looked around...
Considering I'm in Taiwan right now I can definitely find cheaper. However, say I buy a comp with a japanese OS, is "americanizing" the notebook complicated? Do I just format the drive and install win XPpro in english?

Sellers in the Taipei computer market are pretty handy and will customize the laptop for you (install a 7600rpm HD etc...again I was looking for a DTR not an upc) and will install an english OS if you ask for it (hush hush, wink wink,*but at least its there). I don't know about the japanese markets yet though.
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post #37 of 46
10/31/04 at 6:43am
Well from what I have seen, it is always not that easy. Even companies that dedicate themselves to importing notebooks from japan, at times, warn the buyer/potential buyer that the notebook is not fully changed and that deep within the system/os one will still find things in japanese or whatnot.

I suggest you get in contact with Lawrence Camera, who you can find over at www.leog.net, a forum pretty much dedicated to Fujitsu notebooks and ultraportables.

His username over there is lawrencecamera. He lives in Japan, I believe, and does many reviews for imported notebooks. Sign up over there, look him up, and you can IM him using yahoo messenger or send him an email. But you will only be able to do that by registering.
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post #38 of 46
10/31/04 at 6:49am
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On the Sharp Actius MM20:

What's 1.0GHz Tranameta Efficeon? How does that compare to a Centrino/Pentium-M?

The battery life is quite attractive and the price is awesome (1500USD) but the size might affect its portability. The whole point of the UPC is not having to tote around that laptop bag/briefcase/etc. I'll have to try to see a model next time I'm in Taipei.

Another con is the fact that it only has a 20GB hard drive. My father's Picture Book has a 30GB HD so that's a step backwards. Considering the price it's still interesting though, I'll point it out to him. Thanks!
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post #39 of 46
10/31/04 at 6:54am
Transmeta efficeon is the successor to the transmeta crusoe. Definetely better than the crusoe, but not as good as the Pentium-M. Ill try to find an article/review I read of it.


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http://www.vanshardware.com/reviews/...5_efficeon.htm

That is a review where the efficeon is compared to the crusoe, which doesnt really help you much unless you have used the crusoe. But it also serves as a review of the MM2. SO go ahead and take a look.

http://www.leog.net/fujp_forum/topic...erms=transmeta

That thread discusses the MM2.
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post #40 of 46
10/31/04 at 7:03am
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Thanks Enderet, I think I'll submit your name to this year's "mod-of-the-year-award" commitee..

I might try to get in contact with Lawrence Camera if a google search doesn't yield any info on the woes of importing japanese computer stuff. Thanks again
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