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Sager or Asus Centrino

post #1 of 15
10/25/04 at 10:33pm
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I have narrowed my search down to the Sager 3790 or the Asus m6000NE. I would get them in the same configuration, 2.0GHz, 1gb ram, 9700, wsxga 15.4", 60gb 7200 hd, and dual layer dvd burner. I know the screen is said to be better on the Sager than the Asus. Would a Nushield help to give those displays a glossy look which currently isn't avalible on these laptops? Battery life is the other major thing, and it is wierd how the Sager has such worse battery life. Anyone know if there is any software or anyway to imporve the battery life without just getting a bigger battery? That is why the Asus is appealing, because the batter life is twice as long and the power management seems to be a lot better, but I don't know if the screen makes up for it. I could also just settle for a 6cell and a 12cell if money allows, but it would be nice to get the battery life that you are suppose to out of a centrino.
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post #2 of 15
10/25/04 at 11:27pm
The reason why the Asus got better battery life is because it have a weaker gpu (64 vs 128) and a have a bigger standard battery. (8cells vs 6cells)

Also, lowering the screen brightness and changing some settings to battery mode will help improve battery life.
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post #3 of 15
10/25/04 at 11:33pm
Grahf- I would contest that the two GPUs are of the same clock, so it isnt "weaker" just less video ram, they both crunch the same numbers in the same period of time. And I doubt seriously that 64 meg of video eats any amount more of battery life, thats like saying 1gig of ram vs 512 megs would have a HUGE diff on battery power, and its very small, if measurable.

Battery life is in the design, and the number of cells the battery has. For the horsepower offered, not much out the beats the asus. For pure power, the sagers do stand out, although I am not sure they do so much so in this comparison.

Eric
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post #4 of 15
10/25/04 at 11:51pm
One of my customers has the Asus. It really is a nice laptop, solid, good design, the only thing I didn't like about it was no option for the 128mb 9700 GPU. If you're not a serious gamer, or just and occasional one, it's a great notebook. In my case, it was enough for me to decide against it though.

My 3790 is due to arive on Tuesday.
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post #5 of 15
10/26/04 at 12:01am
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sweet, you will have to tell me how it is when you get it! After looking some more i relized there is also the Chembook 2056 and powerpro5:6, which are Compal CL56's which could also be added to the comparison. Any thoughts on those three compared to each other configured the same?
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post #6 of 15
10/26/04 at 12:04am
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I hope Sager can squeeze a more powerfull battery into the next 3790, I think that would be worth it, or if I get the money to get a 6 and 12 then i will be happy, bc then I will have enought power for anthing.
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post #7 of 15
10/26/04 at 12:52am
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Originally Posted by EricT
Grahf- I would contest that the two GPUs are of the same clock, so it isnt "weaker" just less video ram, they both crunch the same numbers in the same period of time. And I doubt seriously that 64 meg of video eats any amount more of battery life, thats like saying 1gig of ram vs 512 megs would have a HUGE diff on battery power, and its very small, if measurable.

Battery life is in the design, and the number of cells the battery has. For the horsepower offered, not much out the beats the asus. For pure power, the sagers do stand out, although I am not sure they do so much so in this comparison.

Eric
I agree. Battery Life and Power aredifferent for different laptops even if cpu, gpu, and RAM amount are the same. One proof is the Polywell's PolyNote, with 2.0 Dothan, (this is an Asus M6BNe rebranded by PolyWell) got a score of 98 on WorldBench 5 - this is the highest score for ANY (Dothan, P4, or AMD64) laptop ever tested by PCWorld. And they have tested several other 2.0 Dothan laptops but the PolyWell beat them all - it is in the built and design.
My advice is get the Asus M6N. I was at the same crossroads just like you are now - Asus M6N or Sager 3790 - and the only reason why I had second thoughts about the M6N was the WSXGA screen of the Sager. In the end I decided to go for the M6N. You don't have this problem and your choice is much much easier than mine. Furthermore, 9700 64mb is a very potent gpu that plays games like Doom3 without any problems.
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post #8 of 15
10/26/04 at 2:59am
If I couldn't have got the WSXGA screen with my M6 I would have gone for the 3790. I'm just a fan of higher resolution screens.

Steve
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post #9 of 15
10/26/04 at 6:07am
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Originally Posted by sfdoddsy
If I couldn't have got the WSXGA screen with my M6 I would have gone for the 3790. I'm just a fan of higher resolution screens.

Steve
In that case... what about the WUXGA screen on the Sager? Or is that uncomfortable for you in a 15.4 inch screen?
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post #10 of 15
10/26/04 at 12:24pm
Ok mabye I should have said that the Asus gpu got less ram instead...
Other factors that could affect battery life is the screen and it's resolution, number of fan the laptop have and of course the number of cells the battery have.

personnaly I whould chose the 3790 because it got better benchmark scores.

Sager 3790 (with WUXGA)
3DMark01 - 11687
3dMark03 - 3209
Aqumark - 26,221

Asus M6ne (with WSXGA)
3DMark01 - 10549
3DMark03 - 2827
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post #11 of 15
10/30/04 at 5:54pm
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how is the asus screen compared to the sager? I kow the sager has gotten execelent reviews, so how does the asus stack up?
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post #12 of 15
10/31/04 at 5:39am
I got 3000+ on 3Dmark03 with my Asus.
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post #13 of 15
10/31/04 at 6:17am
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Originally Posted by dieseldrummer
how is the asus screen compared to the sager? I kow the sager has gotten execelent reviews, so how does the asus stack up?
You should look at this thread, as it has a comparison between the two models you are looking at, by a person that has owned both of them.

http://notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=47465
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post #14 of 15
10/31/04 at 7:02am
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Originally Posted by Grahf
Ok mabye I should have said that the Asus gpu got less ram instead...
Other factors that could affect battery life is the screen and it's resolution, number of fan the laptop have and of course the number of cells the battery have.

personnaly I whould chose the 3790 because it got better benchmark scores.

Sager 3790 (with WUXGA)
3DMark01 - 11687
3dMark03 - 3209
Aqumark - 26,221

Asus M6ne (with WSXGA)
3DMark01 - 10549
3DMark03 - 2827
I think those are my benchmarks, so I should just mention that with the latest Asus drivers and no overclocking the 3D01 is up to just under 11,000 and the 3D03 right around 3000.

Steve
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post #15 of 15
10/31/04 at 7:36pm
If you're buying it for games, definitely the Sager. First, the Sager 3790 has an actively cooled GPU, which is rare in Centrinos and means you could overclock the video card more than other Centrinos if you were so inclined.

Also, the Sager 3790 has twice the video memory. Contrary to what those people with 64mb cards say, this part isn't irrelevant for gaming. Sure you can play games at 800x600 with low details, but if you have more memory, you can play with higher details at higher resolution. There is, of course, a point of diminishing returns with the amount of video memory, but 128mb isn't near that point.

If you want battery life, buy it with the 12-cell battery. That'll even prop up the back for increased airflow for even better cooling.
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