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Which notebook will kill the market ? Study

post #1 of 18
10/28/04 at 8:04am
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Notebook having following config will be the leader for next 6 months starting
November(Most nerds dream of today and would love to buy)

(Price Range $1000 to $1200)==> (Center of Bell shape of probability)

Manufacturers can afford this with good quality mass manufacturing and very good brand support.

1)90 nm/130nm Athlon 64 bit processor 3400 or higher with wireless chip bundled People would prefer 1mb cache rather than 512K and should be low power consumption chip
2)80 gb HDD or higher with 5400 speed or higher
3)DVD RW (+,-,dual) optical drive
4)128 Graphics memory(with equal to Radeon 9700 or higher)(with or without
PCI express support)(Add on media reader)
5)1 gb ram with empty slot for future upgradability
6)Better pitch keyboard for good ergonomics
7)15 inch SXGA(good resolution) LCD monitor

All those aiming with lower specs and higher price will not sell, unless for agressive marketing stunts and herd mentality.

One of the killer has arrived,(Acer Aspire 1521 for $1197.00)

Check at,
http://notebookforums.com/showthread...829#post510829
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post #2 of 18
10/28/04 at 9:41am
that notebook has great specs but not everyone is interested in gaming on a notebook. I don't think one particular notebook would be a "market killer" since everyone has their own idea of what a perfect notebook is. Now a notebook with a 15 hour battery life that weighs less than 5 lbs, that would be revolutionary.
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post #3 of 18
10/28/04 at 11:13am
Nah...

Centrino 2.1Ghz
100GB 7200Rpm Hitachi 7K100
DL DVD RW Multidrive
Mobile ATI X800 PCI-E
1GB DDR400
15 SXGA or 15'4 WSXGA

That would be a great machine to kill the market.
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post #4 of 18
10/28/04 at 11:25am
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Originally Posted by Phantom
Nah...

Centrino 2.1Ghz
100GB 7200Rpm Hitachi 7K100
DL DVD RW Multidrive
Mobile ATI X800 PCI-E
1GB DDR400
15 SXGA or 15'4 WSXGA

That would be a great machine to kill the market.
you forgot that its a dual core centrino with 64-bit support

15 OLED screen
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post #5 of 18
10/28/04 at 11:37am
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15 hour battery life that weighs less than 5 lbs
http://www.dynamism.com/u101/specs.shtml

1.9lbs, 13.5 hours of battery life.

Sony u101...discontinued...snif.
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post #6 of 18
10/28/04 at 11:39am
I actually completely disagree with the original post. I would venture to guess that 90% of the laptop market is not interesting in high end graphics cards or gaming capability. The poeple on this forum? It's a small percentage niche. The average american consumer wants portability, battery life-two of the fundamental reasons for buying a portable computer--and middle-of-the-road specs. The average consumer also doesn't want to spend 200% more for a 9lb notebook with 70% of the specs of a desktop. I actually agree with this thinking. I never quite understood why people in these forums pay 2500 for a 12lb notebook with 1 hour a battery life, when they could have gotten a superior desktop for nearly half the price.
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post #7 of 18
10/28/04 at 1:12pm
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Originally Posted by mawst95
I actually completely disagree with the original post. I would venture to guess that 90% of the laptop market is not interesting in high end graphics cards or gaming capability. The poeple on this forum? It's a small percentage niche. The average american consumer wants portability, battery life-two of the fundamental reasons for buying a portable computer--and middle-of-the-road specs. The average consumer also doesn't want to spend 200% more for a 9lb notebook with 70% of the specs of a desktop. I actually agree with this thinking. I never quite understood why people in these forums pay 2500 for a 12lb notebook with 1 hour a battery life, when they could have gotten a superior desktop for nearly half the price.
For portability. Some of us don't care anything about mobility (go buy a PDA if you want mobility and don't need gaming power). Portability is the key. When you go to enough LAN parties, and you start to appreciate DTR notebooks (much less weight, bulk, and setup time), and you realize that current desktops have so much power than much of it is going to waste. I can game perfectly on my nearly 2 year old PC, and most current gaming notebooks perform right at par with it, or above if they have a MR9800. Batteries are there in case the power goes out, so you have time to save data and shut down.
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post #8 of 18
10/28/04 at 1:42pm
you missed his point. what you have just pointed out as reasons for getting a laptop is yours and more precisely the idea that most members of this forum have when it comes to using a laptop. Most people here are moderate to heavy gamers going to LAN parties and such to brag about their 3DMark scores. This is a very small percentage of all laptop users out there. Your average laptop user doesn't need a pci Xpress or a P4HT EE in his/her laptop - mobility and portability are the two most important characteristics of a laptop. The average user is more than covered by what BestBuy or CompUSA has to offer.
And so many people wonder why Sager notebooks are so NOT popular, in general. Well, they are very popular on gamer's heaven like this forum but out there most people have never even heard of Sager or CL56, etc.
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post #9 of 18
10/28/04 at 2:41pm
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Originally Posted by zlatanov
you missed his point. what you have just pointed out as reasons for getting a laptop is yours and more precisely the idea that most members of this forum have when it comes to using a laptop. Most people here are moderate to heavy gamers going to LAN parties and such to brag about their 3DMark scores. This is a very small percentage of all laptop users out there. Your average laptop user doesn't need a pci Xpress or a P4HT EE in his/her laptop - mobility and portability are the two most important characteristics of a laptop. The average user is more than covered by what BestBuy or CompUSA has to offer.
And so many people wonder why Sager notebooks are so NOT popular, in general. Well, they are very popular on gamer's heaven like this forum but out there most people have never even heard of Sager or CL56, etc.

Thanks! You saved me from having to say that. I should mention that the average consumer probably doesn't even know what they want. They just go into best buy and are dazzled by the blinking lights and blue clad salesmen. I wonder if 80% of consumers even know what hard drive RPM's are? Anyway, most certainly business users with their mobile work fleets, etc don't care about gaming or high end processing power.
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post #10 of 18
10/28/04 at 4:11pm
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Originally Posted by Sharakkhal
(go buy a PDA if you want mobility and don't need gaming power).
lol this makes about as much sense as telling people who are interested in mobile gaming to just get a gameboy.
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post #11 of 18
10/28/04 at 5:16pm
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Originally Posted by zlatanov
you missed his point. what you have just pointed out as reasons for getting a laptop is yours and more precisely the idea that most members of this forum have when it comes to using a laptop. Most people here are moderate to heavy gamers going to LAN parties and such to brag about their 3DMark scores. This is a very small percentage of all laptop users out there. Your average laptop user doesn't need a pci Xpress or a P4HT EE in his/her laptop - mobility and portability are the two most important characteristics of a laptop. The average user is more than covered by what BestBuy or CompUSA has to offer.
And so many people wonder why Sager notebooks are so NOT popular, in general. Well, they are very popular on gamer's heaven like this forum but out there most people have never even heard of Sager or CL56, etc.
No, you missed the point. The person I was responding to said:
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I never quite understood why people in these forums pay 2500 for a 12lb notebook with 1 hour a battery life, when they could have gotten a superior desktop for nearly half the price.
My post was not to convince everyone that they need a 12 pound notebook. It was to show my opinion on why it's stupid to tell people that want a 12 pound notebook to buy a desktop instead. A 12 pound notebook with desktop-like power is what some of us want. It's more portable than a 30 pound (very generous there) desktop system. Why sacrifice performance for 5 less pounds and 4 hours of battery life if you will never use it on battery power, and don't care about 5 extra pounds?

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(go buy a PDA if you want mobility and don't need gaming power).
lol this makes about as much sense as telling people who are interested in mobile gaming to just get a gameboy.
At least one of you got it.
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post #12 of 18
10/28/04 at 7:32pm
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At least one of you got it.
I got it!
Im in the mood for a portable AMD beast and it's
my kids inheritance so what do I care what the cost is.
It may not move and just sit within my reach even
when sitting on my throne. Who knows it may be my
last buy too!
Buy what you want, but work for it!
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post #13 of 18
10/28/04 at 8:54pm
I wouldn't mind having both a DTR with Radeon 9800 and an ultra portable in addition to what I already have *cough*
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post #14 of 18
10/28/04 at 11:26pm
i wouldn't mind having an 18 yr old blonde sex machine and a 34 yr old brunette classy lady...

in addition of course to my redheaded wife <== not really married.
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post #15 of 18
10/29/04 at 3:22am
Hey, I got a red headed wife, but she's not 18, does 22 count?

I would have to agree with the majority of statements on this thread, that there really is no laptop that will ever take over. It is the same with everthing on the market. Sure everyone would love a Porsche or Ferrari, but what if you want to go camping or on a mountain trail. That is why competiton (between companies that is) is such a good thing for consumers. If everyone had the exact same needs and wants, then sure, the first poster would be right, maybe that would b e the end all laptop.
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post #16 of 18
10/29/04 at 3:34am
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Originally Posted by h00ligan
i wouldn't mind having an 18 yr old blonde sex machine and a 34 yr old brunette classy lady...

in addition of course to my redheaded wife <== not really married.
LOL, I knew it was going in this direction

Saa|3
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post #17 of 18
11/2/04 at 12:56am
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Athlon 64 killer machine at 1197.00 USD

One of the close killer has arrived at $1197.00

check at,

http://notebookforums.com/showthread...829#post510829
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post #18 of 18
11/11/04 at 9:20am
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Does anyone know about any new upcomming Athlon 64 ($1000-$1300 range)

Does anyone know about any new upcomming Athlon 64 ($1000-$1300 range)
notebook models ?

BF means 26th Nov..but there should be some news before that ??
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