Sager NP8790 SUPRA
Bought From: www.powernotebooks.com
Ship Date: 07/23/04
Received: 07/28/04
RMA for 3 bad pixels within the center of # matrix
Sent: 8/04
Received: 72hrs later (Easy RMA experience although I do NOT think the cosumer should pay shipping back to Sager if it was not a user created problem)
17" WSXGA+ "WideAngles" TFT Active Matrix w/ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 w/256MB DDR
3.4GHz Intel Pentium® 4 HT w/512k L2 Cache - 800MHz FSB
1,024MB (2 SODIMMS) PC3200 DDR400 Dual Channel Memory
60GB Ultra ATA/100 Hard Drive at 7,200 RPM
Combo 8X DVD/24x10x24 CD-RW
Built-in Gigabyte 802.11g TURBO (108Mbps) Wireless LAN Card
Smart Li-ion Battery (8 Cell) + Subwoofer
Standard Carrying Case
Price Tag: 2600 including all the tax / shipping etc.
Well exactly 3 months later here are my thoughts and experiences.
I am running XP Pro SP2
Radeon Omega Drivers 2.5.90 (Catalyst 4.10 Beta)
Power Strip
Other then the two mentioned above...all Sager default drivers/applications.
Games Commonly Played:
TFC
World Of Warcraft
DOD
MOHAA
BF1942
BF1942 DC Mod
BFVietnam
BF POE Mod
Farcry
Doom3
*The ordering process was easy and fast. I payed with CC in order to have some addtional security through my credit card company.
*I ordered on a Friday and received the computer professionally packed and the box in good shape on the following Wed.
*RMA'ed the computer for bad pixels within the center area of the # matrix. It took about 72 hours which was a bit longer then they guarentee during the first 30 days but it was still fast and most important it was fixed correctly (new screen). Side note: Consumers should not have to pay for shipping back to Sager if the RMA reason was not consumer caused. This one policy alone I believe is a weight slowing the internet sales industry.
Being a big gamer I noticed immediately I did not give myself enough HD space. My desktop has 2 60 gig HD's and 2 36 gig HD's. Adjusting to 1 60 gig is rough. If you are already dropping this much $ on a Sager get the addtional drive space.
I have experienced ZERO problems (minus the RMA'ed screen). No random crashes no funny quarks etc. Everything I throw at this computer is handled. In my signature below you can see my desktop stats. I can say I honestly do not notice any performance difference in the two when playing games like WoW and Doom3.
Biggest concerns for me:
HD Space, Heat on the left wrist pad (although not excessive it is slightly annoying in a hot climate). Fan noise is more then I expected but that was due to unrealistic expectations. My Desktop is easily twice as loud as this laptop. I mentioned the fan noise only because I think it > COULD < be too loud in a class room enviornment depending on the temp and apps being ran.
Overall Satisfaction: This is my first laptop. I am use to high performance from desktops and this was bought as a Desk Top Replacement. It has turned out to be a perfect fit for me. All expectations have been met and I would buy it all over again (cept next time it will be PCIE & a larger HD).
OVERCLOCKING
I am running XP Pro SP2
Radeon Omega Drivers 2.5.90 (Catalyst 4.10 Beta)
Power Strip
Using Aqua3 @ 1024x768
415/280 = 28,284
460/290 = 30,759
500/300 = 32,895
515/300 = 33,621
For Comparison my desktop (specs are in signature) was recently formatted so it has no tweaks and only stock drivers & apps installed.
Using Aqua3 @ 1024x768
Stock = 42,999
How do my laptop numbers look? In comparison to Adams I am running a little bit faster but thats likely the Omega drivers I have installed.
NOTE: I have not stressed my computer heavily during any of the overclocking settings. I plan to play World Of Warcraft for few hours today at 500/300. If I notice problems I will give a follow up post.
THANK YOU NOTEBOOK FORUMS AND NOTEBOOK FORUMS USERS
Gomaha, Drawmonster, Adam, Luke, Syn...I could type a huge list! There are so many of you out there making a positive difference in this forum. This is the most informative forum I have ever used with some of the fastest responses. My thanks to > all < of you out there helping eachother through this forum.
Forgive the typos I am too lazy to fix
Bought From: www.powernotebooks.com
Ship Date: 07/23/04
Received: 07/28/04
RMA for 3 bad pixels within the center of # matrix
Sent: 8/04
Received: 72hrs later (Easy RMA experience although I do NOT think the cosumer should pay shipping back to Sager if it was not a user created problem)
17" WSXGA+ "WideAngles" TFT Active Matrix w/ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 w/256MB DDR
3.4GHz Intel Pentium® 4 HT w/512k L2 Cache - 800MHz FSB
1,024MB (2 SODIMMS) PC3200 DDR400 Dual Channel Memory
60GB Ultra ATA/100 Hard Drive at 7,200 RPM
Combo 8X DVD/24x10x24 CD-RW
Built-in Gigabyte 802.11g TURBO (108Mbps) Wireless LAN Card
Smart Li-ion Battery (8 Cell) + Subwoofer
Standard Carrying Case
Price Tag: 2600 including all the tax / shipping etc.
Well exactly 3 months later here are my thoughts and experiences.
I am running XP Pro SP2
Radeon Omega Drivers 2.5.90 (Catalyst 4.10 Beta)
Power Strip
Other then the two mentioned above...all Sager default drivers/applications.
Games Commonly Played:
TFC
World Of Warcraft
DOD
MOHAA
BF1942
BF1942 DC Mod
BFVietnam
BF POE Mod
Farcry
Doom3
*The ordering process was easy and fast. I payed with CC in order to have some addtional security through my credit card company.
*I ordered on a Friday and received the computer professionally packed and the box in good shape on the following Wed.
*RMA'ed the computer for bad pixels within the center area of the # matrix. It took about 72 hours which was a bit longer then they guarentee during the first 30 days but it was still fast and most important it was fixed correctly (new screen). Side note: Consumers should not have to pay for shipping back to Sager if the RMA reason was not consumer caused. This one policy alone I believe is a weight slowing the internet sales industry.
Being a big gamer I noticed immediately I did not give myself enough HD space. My desktop has 2 60 gig HD's and 2 36 gig HD's. Adjusting to 1 60 gig is rough. If you are already dropping this much $ on a Sager get the addtional drive space.
I have experienced ZERO problems (minus the RMA'ed screen). No random crashes no funny quarks etc. Everything I throw at this computer is handled. In my signature below you can see my desktop stats. I can say I honestly do not notice any performance difference in the two when playing games like WoW and Doom3.
Biggest concerns for me:
HD Space, Heat on the left wrist pad (although not excessive it is slightly annoying in a hot climate). Fan noise is more then I expected but that was due to unrealistic expectations. My Desktop is easily twice as loud as this laptop. I mentioned the fan noise only because I think it > COULD < be too loud in a class room enviornment depending on the temp and apps being ran.
Overall Satisfaction: This is my first laptop. I am use to high performance from desktops and this was bought as a Desk Top Replacement. It has turned out to be a perfect fit for me. All expectations have been met and I would buy it all over again (cept next time it will be PCIE & a larger HD).
OVERCLOCKING
I am running XP Pro SP2
Radeon Omega Drivers 2.5.90 (Catalyst 4.10 Beta)
Power Strip
Using Aqua3 @ 1024x768
415/280 = 28,284
460/290 = 30,759
500/300 = 32,895
515/300 = 33,621
For Comparison my desktop (specs are in signature) was recently formatted so it has no tweaks and only stock drivers & apps installed.
Using Aqua3 @ 1024x768
Stock = 42,999
How do my laptop numbers look? In comparison to Adams I am running a little bit faster but thats likely the Omega drivers I have installed.
NOTE: I have not stressed my computer heavily during any of the overclocking settings. I plan to play World Of Warcraft for few hours today at 500/300. If I notice problems I will give a follow up post.
THANK YOU NOTEBOOK FORUMS AND NOTEBOOK FORUMS USERS
Gomaha, Drawmonster, Adam, Luke, Syn...I could type a huge list! There are so many of you out there making a positive difference in this forum. This is the most informative forum I have ever used with some of the fastest responses. My thanks to > all < of you out there helping eachother through this forum.
Forgive the typos I am too lazy to fix
