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STi Sev’s Comprehensive Dell Inspiron 8600 Review

Preordering up until ordering
When I was considering a computer, I never really considered buying a laptop from Dell computers, mainly given the way they looked. However, given the extraordinary deal I received from Dell, I couldn’t justify the price of anything else. Here is a brief summary of my transaction, along with system specifications:

SPECIFICATIONS & PRICING
I scored an unbelievable deal on this laptop. Here are the details:

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Intel® Pentium® M Processor 715(1.60A GHz/400MHz FSB)
15.4 WSXGA+ Monitor
512MB DDR SDRAM 333Mhz 1 DIMM
128MB DDR ATI's MOBILITY® RADEON™ 9600 PROTURBO
24X CD-RW/DVD Combo Drive with Sonic RecordNow
30GB 5400RPM
Dell® Wireless 1350 Internal Wireless (802.11b/g, 54Mbps)
AC adapter -90w, 19.5v
2x USB, 10/100mbit Ethernet, modem
1Yr Ltd Warranty, 1Yr Mail-In Service, and 1Yr Technical Support

Sub-Total $931.00
Shipping $49.00
Tax $80.84
Total Price $1,060.84
- $84 (8%) Student Discount
-$49 MIR (for shipping)
GRAND TOTAL: $927
ORDERING AND SHIPPING
I ordered on October 19, 2004 at 4:00 AM with 23 seconds past and received my laptop 6 days later. I want to extend my gratitude to Dell for the speedy service and such outstanding pricing. My package was delivered from Richmond, CA.

KEYBOARD AND EXTRAS[*] One aspect that concerned me about this laptop was its keyboard. I heard a lot of negative reviews about the Dell Inspiron’s keyboard on Notebookforums.com and now that I’ve had a chance to use it first hand, I must agree with the general census. There is an disgusting amount of flexing with the keys. Flexing is basically the sticking of keys and then the “bouncing” of keys back. My previous budget Toshiba laptop had no such problem, and I was disappointed to see such a problem in a $1600+ laptop. However, I feel compelled to note that several users on notebookforums.com have created a tentative solution using a relatively liberal amount of double sticky tape. [*] Dell also provides seven extra buttons, three located on top, while the remaining four conveniently located on the right side. The top buttons are volume decrease, volume increase and mute. On the right side, Dell has placed Play/Pause, Stop, Trackleft, Trackright, respectively. I was a little disappointed that the Trackleft and right don’t act as FF/RW if held down. That’s just one of my small notes; it’s no big deal. I didn’t mention the power button, since that’s a standard, but I’ll a little bit about it now. I know it’s silly, but the power buttons actually looks pretty nice. It’s been dipped in chrome and has a smooth push-button feel to it.

PRELOADED SOFTWARE[*]Preloaded software is absolutely worthless for me when considering a laptop purchase. My feelings were justified when first booted the Dell machine. Good grief. There were more than 54 processes running at any given time after the boot process ended. Additionally, this virgin computer had already been violated by evil programs like AOL 9 and Realplayer. In retaliation, my first chore as supreme chancellor of this fine machine was to wipe its contents in their entirety and install a fresh copy of SP2-slipstreamed XP. The difference was mind-blowing. Full system boot time dropped roughly 35-40%. [*]When wiping the install, I made sure to delete 2 extra partitions that Dell had made. (One was a “diagnostics” partition which is useless for me)[*]After I reinstalled XP, I went to Dell’s support site and downloaded the latest drivers for NIC, wireless LAN, sound, graphics, etc. These settings will differ somewhat with different configurations. The driver CDs that Dell provides are worthless.[*]The moral of this story is to toss the driver CDs and make your own. Also, wipe that HD as soon as possible and install a clean operating system, free from the wrath of evil corporations.


LED LIGHTS[*] The CPU/HD activity/Battery charge, etc LEDs are placed exactly where they should be—on the right hinge of the monitor base. This gives easy visual access to most CPU/HD activity and I’m delighted Dell decided to put it there. Additionally, on the keyboard, there’s three green LEDs, one for scroll lock, num lock, and caps lock. A very silly and personal opinion: it would’ve been nice if Dell replaced the green LEDs for blue ones to conform with the all-around blue scheme.

BUILD QUALITY[*]When I first glanced over the top, outmost layer of my Inspiron 8600, I was shocked at its beauty. Then, when I opened up the laptop, the beauty quickly faded with cheap, plastic-looking parts. I’m not expecting IBM Thinkpad quality at this price, but Dell has shown that it can (and has started) design beautiful laptops like the 700m. With the Inspiron 8600, one can purchase notebook “covers” in several different colors. I must admit that I was appalled by all of the colors, except perhaps blue (if that matched my room) and perhaps the graphite. The silver is still the best looking and the cheapest, since Dell charges a ridiculously bloated price of $30-40 for the cover upgrade.

SIZE AND WEIGHT/PORTABILITY[*]Dimensions (W x D x H): 14.1 in x 10.8 in x 1.4 in[*]Weight: 7-7.2lbs.[*]AC adapter is a bit chunky at 1.1 lbs.[*]The laptop is larger and a little thicker than my previous laptop, which is to be expected, given the wide aspect screen. This is where the controversy begins. I have read countless reviews (CNet, Anandtech) that state that the computer is heavy and subliminally send messages to people who travel frequently—look elsewhere. I couldn’t disagree more. I just carried the laptop to school and back and noticed very little difference between this and my 6.1lb Toshiba. 1 lb. isn’t going to break one’s back. I don’t know what computer these people are reviewing but the weight isn’t an issue at all WHEN CONSIDERING all of the aspects of this laptop are taken into account (15.4” widescreen, Radeon 9600, etc.)
The best way I can describe this machine is a “desktop replacement that won’t break your back”. Now, if you’re a law student who typically runs around campus, I wouldn’t be carrying this thing. Textbooks are more backbreaking than this notebook will ever be.[*]The aforementioned dimensions make no difference to me. Why should they? As long as it fits my computer case properly (which it does), the weight is all that concerns me. All in all, I am extremely pleasured with how this laptop fared out, both weight and dimensions.

15.4” WSXGA+ DISPLAY[*]Three words: NO DEAD PIXELS! (that I can see) For this, I am extremely relieved. It seems that most people who have received their computers on FatWallet forums report little to no dead pixels which is a big plus for anyone considering the WSXGA+ display upgrade. [*] One of my biggest gripes with my Toshiba A15-S157 was its 1024x768 screen. As I transitioned from my old laptop to my new one, I couldn’t believe how small the text and resolution was on a 15.4” wide-aspect screen. Good lord, it was overwhelming. With time, however, I think my eyes with generally adjust to the new resolution. At this point, I can honestly say that I can’t fathom how much smaller the WUXGA+ is. With a resolution of 1920 x 1200 pixels, I’d probably go blind within a year of its use.
The screen is sharp and I’ve got more than enough room for my browsing needs. It’ll be interesting to see if the Mobility 9600 Pro Turbo will be able to handle games at this display’s native resolution of 1680 by 1050 pixels. We’ll find out a little later.[*]All in all, I am extremely pleased with this display. Under no circumstances (except medical conditions with one’s orbits) should anyone buy the WXGA and limit themselves to the 1280x… resolution. Take the extra $40-50 plunge and indulge yourself in all that is the beauty of this monitor.

TOUCHPAD[*]The third least cared about feature on any given laptop is the touchpad. The mouse pointer moves much too slow for the increased resolution, but I’m sure there’s an undiscovered setting somewhere that changes this; I just have to find it.  The left and right click buttons are remarkably responsible and I’m pretty pleased with this over setup. Now, if only someone can tell me how to adjust the speed of the mouse cursor.

PORTS:[*] The sound and microphone port are placed in the same location as my Toshiba A15-S157, which is a relief given the 700m has them on the front (which makes for messy wiring!)[*]Please note that ALL Dell Inspiron computers being sold now are the Inspiron 8600c which means that they do NOT have a : 1)Serial port 2) Parallel port 3) TrackPoint (THANK GOD). TrackPoints are that little rubber piece situation in the middle of the keyboard used like a mini-control mechanism. I have never found any use for such a device and find it really annoying.[*] The computer comes with a proprietary S-Video port, 2 USB2 ports, NIC/Modem ports, power, PC-card port and a delightful Firewire port located on the side, near the microphone jack.
My biggest complaint on this end of the spectrum is the limited number of USB2 ports. Dell could have granted 8600 users more flexibility by providing a third (or even fourth) USB2 port. With tons of USB devices being released left and right, users need more and more. However, this is easily solvable by purchasing a cheap, generic USB2 hub.

CD-RW/DVD[*]Although I’ve had the laptop for only roughly a day, I’ve dealt with the CD-RW/DVD drive long enough to say a few things about it. I didn’t go for the DVD burner for two basic reasons; 1) I already own a 4x burner in Epinephrine (my server computer) 2) Dell charges an exorbitantly high price for its DVD burner upgrade, thus negating the possibility of making this a budget laptop purchase. [*]This drive is epitome of two extremes—it can be remarkably quiet and unbearably loud. I also noted some frog-like noses coming from the drive, only to find out that drive had spinned the CD so fast, that a small portion of the CD label I had made had peeled off. Otherwise, the CD works great. It burns at 24x, just like my previous Toshiba laptop and works with my Prodisc, Ritek, and Optimum media just fine. [*]One trivial but positive aspect about this drive is how fast the CD ejects. On my previous laptop, it would take several seconds for the CD to eject, but this drive ejects instantly which is a good thing for impatient poop-heads like me. A small annoying aspect of the drive is that the button is pretty small and if you’ve got monstrous hands like I do, it takes a couple seconds to get oriented and click the tiny button. This obviously varies from person to person.[*]UPDATE: I am starting to believe that there is something wrong with my CD drive. It refuses to read a handful of CDs/DVDs that I’ve burned. I only use fairly high quality media like Ritek, etc.. so I’m not sure what to make of it. I’m going to post a thread over at notebook forums and report back.
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GRAPHICS CARD [RADEON 9600 MOBILITY PRO TURBO): [*]To my surprise I couldn’t install the ordinary ATI Catalyst drivers. Instead, I had to download the latest version from Dell’s support website which is not a problem, but a bummer if there are any future updates to the Catalyst drivers. I’ll just have to wait.
UPDATE: I’ve been informed that Omega Catalyst Drivers (latest) WILL work with the Inspiron 8600. EDIT: Confirmed. Latest drivers can be found here: http://www.omegadrivers.net/ati/win2k_xp.php[*]As for gaming performance, I tested the laptop with 3DMark 2001 SE and I received a low score of 5087 3DMarks. I’m not really sure why they came out so low and I find myself remarkably unconcerned. Real-life game performance is good enough for even the newest games (although I have to run much lower resolutions than WSXGA+ can handle)

HARD DRIVE[*]I ordered the 30GB 4200 RPM drive from Dell, seeing as how I’ve got the Hitachi 60GB 7200RPM Travelstar on order. The drive is slow, but I really can’t notice it with the CPU being as fast as it is. Given newegg.com’s glowing reviews about Hitachi’s Travelstar 60GB 7200RPM reviews, I’m sure the speed increase will be considerable.[*]I feel compelled to note that I decided NOT to upgrade to the 7200RPM 60GB model from Dell because they charge $160 for the upgrade. I bought mine for $165 or so from ZipZoomFly w/ 2 day free shipping and that’s including the 30GB drive. There are rumors floating around that one can “sell back” parts to Dell. If this is true, then I might send it back to them for a $60-70 credit which would sweeten this deal even more. [*][Update]I received the drive and installed it with little problems. All I had to do was unscrew a small section of the lateral portion of the laptop, remove the old drive from its casing the adapter. Then, carefully place the adapter on the new drive without breaking or bending any pins and finally place the new drive into the original casing and place it back into its original invagination. The ghosting went pretty smoothly and I definitely notice a big difference between the 4200 & 7200RPM. Actually, the difference is night and day. Applications boot up much faster. I haven’t seen much deviation, temperature-wise. The left palm rest still gets really warm regardless of the rotational speed of the drive.
Because I am extremely sensitive to noise, I have to say that the new drive is slightly louder. There is a faint intermittent hard drive noise when the computer is idle, so that kind of sucks, but it’s totally bearable, even for a computer-noise-nazi like me. [*]Now that I’ve got an extra 30GB drive, I had two choices: sell it on eBay for $50 or so, or purchase a USB 2 2.5” 9.5mm enclosure and use it as a backup drive. I tentatively picked the later option. I purchased the PCMS ALUMINUM EXTERNAL USB 2.0 CASE FOR LAPTOP 2.5" HARD DRIVE (9.5MM MAX HEIGHT) from PCMicroCenter for $11+$1 shipping + $1 CA tax = $13 shipped. Best deal I could find for a silver or black enclosure of this size.[*]The hard drive does run a little hot, but I’ll talk more about this issue in the next section, noise and heat section.

NOISE AND HEAT[*]For the most part, the Inspiron 8600 has been dead silent at regular activities (web surfing, word processing, pr0n vie.. errr studying calculus…yea…that’s good. Once you load even the smallest game like continuum (warning: addictive!), the noticeably noisy fan kicks in like a rocket launching off the ground. I’ve talked to several owners and they confirm my findings with one additional detail—the 8600 sporadically turns on the fan during games with it gets too hot, unlike my Toshiba which just runs its fan for a “burst period” after detecting a heat increase.[*]One of the major issues with the 8600 is the heat emanating from the hard drive, which is idiotically placed under the left palm rest. The ambient temperature in my room right now is roughly 13.9*C and my palms are sweating because of the heat under that region. My Toshiba had the same problem (with the heat under left palm), given its 2.2Ghz Celeron nature, but this is a little worse. I’m hoping the Travelstar 7200RPM 60GB will fix this heat issue (NOT likely), but it’s still an issue for someone who has sweaty palms and/or lives in a hot environment.[*]Overall, the 8600 is silent. I am really impressed on how quiet things really are; the fan kicking in during games is not a really big deal for me, since I’ve got my [*]From what I can tell, the vents for the GPU and the CPU are both on the inferior (bottom) side of the laptop. Thus, as a precautionary measure, I slapped on four black feet purchasable from any local Radio Shack or hobby shop. The Inspiron 8600 has four feet, but I felt that the computer needs a little more space for airflow on the bottom.

WIRELESS LAN/NIC[*]NIC works flawlessly. Nothing special to report[*]You may have noticed that I ordered the Dell 1350 instead of going “official” Centrino. The reason is because I read innumerable user reviews that favored the 1350 and I’m glad to say that their favoritism towards this model was not unfounded. I can now pick up a [unsecured..woo!] wireless network from a distance so afar that my previous machine didn’t even pick up. Wireless device can be controlled via FUNC+F2 (configurable via BIOS)

BIOS[*]Nothing to really report here, but I just wanted to note an interesting feature that I’d never seen before (obviously never having owned a Dell laptop). Pressing F12 at bootup brings up a one-time menu to boot into several types of devices. I found this to be a clever and very useful feature. Small additions like these really boost computer morale.

BATTERY LIFE[*]I am unable to test for battery life at this time. Generally, users report 4-5 (5 MAX) battery life from this computer which is excellent compared to my old Celeron’s 1 ½ -2 hour battery life @ light usage.

SPEAKERS[*]The speakers are situated on the most anterior distal region of the laptop. The speakers sound one-dimensional given their placement. Overall, I must admit that sound is lacking given the small size of the speakers and their placement. They are decent as far as laptop speakers go, but I must admit that laptop speakers are at the bottom of the totem pole in my list of “wanted features”. I use Logitech Z-340s for my primary laptop speakers and they work very nicely.

OVERALL PERFORMANCE [*]I was holding off writing about anything concerning performance until the 7200RPM drive got here, but I’ll say a few words. This. Computer. Is. Fast. It runs circles around my 2.2Ghz Celeron Toshiba laptop even in basic desktop operations where often times improvements in performance are negligible.

OTHER MINOR ANNOYANCES[*]The Dell’s power button is chrome, so light reflects off it onto the Dell logo and looks like there’s a stain on my laptop.[*]The hinge creaks a little when opening/closing the laptop. This gives the laptop a crappier sense of quality and is a well-documented issue on notebookforums.com. Some people have come up with hardware modification solutions, but it doesn’t bother me as much as the keyboard.[*]Unarguably, the biggest problem I face as I use this new laptop is its keyboard. In this reviewer’s opinion, the keyboard is probably the most important aspect of the computer, given the amount of interaction between the user and this device. [*]I didn’t put this portion into the keyboard review because I felt it doesn’t really affect a lot of people. I know it’s only been one day, but I’m having trouble adjusting to the wider layout of the keys. Additionally, the layout of the extra buttons is vastly different from my old Toshiba’s. At any rate, judging from the layout, I wholeheartedly believe that Dell’s layout is more “logical” in its placement. Even as I type this review, my hands are hurting from having to stretch my fingers the extra distance. I know it sounds bizarre, but people report similar problems going from wide keyboards to the 700m, which has a smaller keyboard due to its size. I will probably get used to this. Only time will tell.[*]A friend who also owns an 8600 reports that his keyboard is perfect. However, it should be noted that his previous machine was a Dell Inspiron 8100, so he was already use the exact layout of his new machine.

PROS: [*]WSXGA+ is gorgeous (w/ no dead pixels)[*]RICE: I scored this computer at a remarkable price of $927[*]Speedy shipping/delivery[*]Computer performance is FAST.[*] Notebook is dead silent when fan is off. Fan comes on intermittently to cool down the computer. A huge plus for people who are sound-sensitive like me.[*]Radeon 9600 Mobility Pro Turbo is remarkable in its performance.

CONS[*]The plastic components on the inside region of the laptop look and feel cheap. The blue needs to go, Dell. The top silver is nice, but the parts deep to that are kind of ugly.[*]Keyboard is) incredibly horrendous. As I type this review, it has become intolerable to type anything. The spacing I discussed earlier is not the issue, in as much as the keyboard flexing. I am exploring other options (repair, modifications, replacements, alternative keyboards, etc.) I might try Spike’s (noteforums.com) keyboard flex mode. I will report my findings.[*]Left arm/palm rest gets very warm/slightly hot which leads to sweaty palms. This is especially apparent during gaming and it gets annoying after a while.[*]CD-RW/DVD can be noisy. I’m starting to think that my drive is b0rked.[*]Preloaded software slows computer. Needs system reinstall (which is a given for any computer).

OTHER: [*]For people who love the 700m reflective surface look, there is a thread on notebookforums.com concerning a company called Nushield that makes “stick-on” reflective covering. It will run you about $16-18 or so, but for people who like that looks, it’s probably worth it. See this thread for details:
http://notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=44856
[*]If you want the 60GB 7200 RPM Hitachi drive, make sure to choose the 40GB drive instead of the 30GB. The 40GB is definitely worth the $24 or so upgrade price because users report that Dell is shipping 5400RPM models of the 40GB, compared to the 30GB’s 4200RPM. Purchase the 60GB model from ZipZoomFly for $155 or so shipped w/ 2 day air. Use this drive with the aforementioned PCMS $13 shipped HDD USB2 case as a great backup drive.
[*]If you’re looking for a computer sleeve, you’ve got some options:
1.) Case Logic NCLE2 Large Neoprene Computer Sleeve is a highly rated sleeve that’s relatively cheap at $14.99.
2.) Alternately, if you’re looking for cutting-edge technology, look no further than the Japanese-made ZeroShock notebook sleeve. It’s *expensive* and will run you about $40-50 shipped. My girlfriend in Tokyo, Japan reports that it costs around $25-28 locally for the larger model (15”)[*]If you’re looking for bargain backpack, look no further than the Targus CVR600 Groove Notebook Backpack - Black (High Density Nylon). I scored it for $24.99 (free shipping/no tax) and a $10 MIR from Targus, with a grand total of $14.99. BE AWARE that I have been waiting for this bag to ship for 2 ½ weeks…still nothing.[*]I am investigating unconfirmed unconfirmed reports that the keyboard leaves marks on the TFT
MUST HAVE SOFTWARE[*]If you’ve got the 8600/8200/8100 you have GOT to download these two program. Absolutely essential for any geek:
1.)I8KfanGUI: Control/modify ALL your 8600’s fans and what temperature at which they start cooling! Rating: 10/10
2.)SpeedSwitch XP: Coded by the same author as I8KfanGUI! You can manually modify the speed of your CPU to dynamically adjust itself after battery takes over (utilizes SpeedSwitch™ technology)
Both of these fine programs found here: http://www.diefer.de

RATING[*]After carefully considering and weighing all the of the options, I’m incline to give my Inspiron 9600 a respectable 9.4/10 (If the keyboard situation gets resolved, then 9.5/10)

BOTTOM LINE:
Buy this laptop if you can fin it for a price around what I bought it for. You won’t find anything better, [Men’s Warehouse] I guarantee it. [/Men’s Warehouse]

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Shit. Sorry about the formatting guys.

I originally formatted it for Ars's forums but that seemed to have screwed things up.

Eye-pleasing version here: http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/...m=594008617631
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Nice review! Enjoy your new 8600. I'm sure you gonna like it, like I do.
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LOL STi Sev, you're a medic, aren't you?
coupla things in there that gave it away e.g. "The speakers are situated on the most anterior distal region of the laptop"
I've got an 8600c as well and am very pleased with it so far.
See here for my specs and opinions.
welcome to the club!
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Hello surayne,

Close, I'm applying for the Registered Nursing programs in the Bay Area.

I'm glad to be here.
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Something is amiss... you quoted a 715 1.6mHz, but well, either it's a 725 1.6 or a 715 1.5. You may want to check that.
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Strange. I copied that from Dell before.

My apologies. Correction: Inspiron 8600, Intel Pentium MProcessor 725 (1.6A GHz), 15.4-in WSXGA+
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good god that's a long review. i just received my 8600 UXGA and got it with the same deal that you did. i am absolutely, completely, entirely in love with the display and super high resolution. where did you find information on the shipping rebate?
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hi, i noticed that you received 8% student discount in addition to the huge price reduction. how do i get that discount? btw i also just received my 8600 few days ago - almost the same spec as yours except for the dell wireless card (got the intel one instead but was surprised they upgrade mine 1.5 to 1.6 - free! ) also just got the nushield just now - i'm not sure but to my naked eyes it doesn't make any difference to the "brightness" of the screen. feel cheated.
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Originally Posted by ampe
hi, i noticed that you received 8% student discount in addition to the huge price reduction. how do i get that discount? btw i also just received my 8600 few days ago - almost the same spec as yours except for the dell wireless card (got the intel one instead but was surprised they upgrade mine 1.5 to 1.6 - free! ) also just got the nushield just now - i'm not sure but to my naked eyes it doesn't make any difference to the "brightness" of the screen. feel cheated.
i just noticed that i also got the 1.6 when i paid for the 1.5 also. nice surprise!!
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Great review and great pics! I'm jealous of the cleanliness of that desk...
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That's a great review (long is good.. haha). I totally agree with you regarding the keyboard. I have typed on other notebooks and find the 8600C has a really crappy keyboard. Just feels cheap. It reminds me of my Targus foldable keyboard that I have for my Jornada. Yeah, types very much like that. Typing does not have a "solid" feel to it. The trackpad is not that great. I dont know of any trackpad that is great.

I was totally against the WSXGA+ in the beginning but am getting used to it after setting DPI to 105% and doing the IE registry hack to disable the resizing of images. I notice a minor amount of light leakage when I turn the brightness level to the fullest. I was going to complain to Dell but after testing it out a bit longer, decided maybe it is not very noticeable after all. I'll see.. if it gets worse, I'll probably talk to them again. I think the display is OK. Not as sharp as Sony or Fujitsu models I have seen at the stores but then again, those are more expensive.

Weight is kind of heavy but then again, it's 15.4". And I got the 80GB hard disk since I do a lot of photography and graphics.

Speed is okay on Windows XP. I wouldnt call it snappy or fast. Just okay speeds. I have the 512MB ram option. Even when setting it to Performance setting, I think speed is okay.

So.. biggest complaint is the keyboard. It feels too smooth and doesnt have a solid feel when you type. Easy to keep mis-typing. Too much like those portable keyboards for PDAs. It is good they put the CTRL key at the corners. I dont understand what Gateway and HP were thinking when they put the Fn key on the corners of some of their models. Simply stupid...
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hi, i noticed that you received 8% student discount in addition to the huge price reduction. how do i get that discount? btw i also just received my 8600 few days ago
It's extremely difficult from what I've heard. I called some number I found (I forgot it) on FatWallet and got the discount.

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Great review and great pics! I'm jealous of the cleanliness of that desk...
Oh my god. If you think THAT's bad, you should see the other half of my room. lol.

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. I totally agree with you regarding the keyboard. I have typed on other notebooks and find the 8600C has a really crappy keyboard. Just feels cheap. It reminds me of my Targus foldable keyboard that I have for my Jornada. Yeah, types very much like that. Typing does not have a "solid" feel to it. The trackpad is not that great. I dont know of any trackpad that is great.
Yea, I'm getting a little used to the keyboard, but I still feel like the keys are going to pop out when typing fast.

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Weight is kind of heavy but then again, it's 15.4". And I got the 80GB hard disk since I do a lot of photography and graphics.
I disagree. For all of the stuff that I'm using, I actually consider the 8600 to be rather light! 7lbs for a complete multimedia station is incredible.

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Speed is okay on Windows XP. I wouldnt call it snappy or fast. Just okay speeds. I have the 512MB ram option. Even when setting it to Performance setting, I think speed is okay.
When RAM prices come down for the 512MBx1 DIMM, I'm going to get one.
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