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Some 5660 video overclocking

post #1 of 24
11/3/02 at 6:23pm
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Just thought I'd share today's experiences with a little tweaking on the Radeon 9000.
I installed PowerStrip 3.26 on top of the Radeon 6178 default drivers.
All I did was simply click "default performance settings" in the lower right hand menu and the clock speed was a default 182/259 I ran a base test on 3DMARK2001 SE 1024X768@32 bit and scored for some reason a very nice 7314




I bumped the memory clock up to 200 and the results were 7597




I then took the memory clock up to 212 and without any problems ran a 7709




Just thought I'd share. It's not a review, and not hard core overclocking, just passing along my experiences.
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post #2 of 24
11/4/02 at 9:47am
I would have thought the performance of the 2.8Ghz Sager would have been nearer 8000 without overclocking. Perhaps it is just poor drivers at the moment

My current machine Dell 8200 P4 1.8Ghz Geforce4Go 64MB clears 5500 3DMarks.

Bearing in mind there is an extra 1Ghz of processing power and a little more graphics power from the radeon 9000 I would have expected slightly higher scoring.
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post #3 of 24
11/4/02 at 12:16pm
I believe someone on the dell boards claimed they scored an 8200 on the Sager. I don't know what drivers were used and what sort of overclocking but that was the claim.
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post #4 of 24
11/4/02 at 2:13pm
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Originally posted by vanfanel
I believe someone on the dell boards claimed they scored an 8200 on the Sager. I don't know what drivers were used and what sort of overclocking but that was the claim.
My friend's Dell 8200 with the 1.8 and 9000 gets a low 6000. All the Dells I've seen get between 6000 and 6500 for some reason from the factory while the Sagers get usually over 7000. If a Dell is getting an 8200 they have that thing being really pushed.
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post #5 of 24
11/4/02 at 2:43pm
No he said some on the "DELL BOARDS" got 8200 with his Sager laptop not a dell inspiron 8200
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post #6 of 24
11/4/02 at 4:23pm
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Originally posted by Dekka
No he said some on the "DELL BOARDS" got 8200 with his Sager laptop not a dell inspiron 8200
Oops!
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post #7 of 24
11/5/02 at 7:57pm

difference of Dell

This is just a thought... People were saying on this forum that dells got lower scores for the most part. Could that have anything to do with the fact that some dells actually have removeable GPUs? Like they aren't integrated into the motherboard?
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post #8 of 24
11/5/02 at 10:15pm
no that shouldnt be an issue. remember the fastest dell is I think 2.2 ghz and the sagers go up to 2.8 ghz and i think the core clock of the dell's radeon 9000 is 200mhz and the sagers are 225.
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post #9 of 24
11/9/02 at 9:52am
I am struggling to get anywhere near those values on my 5660.

Spec:

P4 2.8Ghz
1024MB DDR
Radeon 9000 64MB (6178 Driver)
Windows XP Pro SP1

I have killed all tasks in the background and then ran 3D Mark 2001 SE best I can get without Powerstrip is 7077

And with Powerstrip Performance Defaults 7098

Overclocking 270 /190 I can hit 7295 which is less than what you get without even overclocking.

I can only presume it is down to the Operating System used as otherwise the setups are Identical?

Not that I am complaining they are still good results I am just amazed at the results you have gotten - I cannot even get my Memory overclock above 190 without 3D Mark crashing - How did you manage a stable 212!! or was it not stable?

Ta.
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post #10 of 24
11/9/02 at 4:13pm
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dekka
I am struggling to get anywhere near those values on my 5660.

Spec:

P4 2.8Ghz
1024MB DDR
Radeon 9000 64MB (6178 Driver)
Windows XP Pro SP1

I have killed all tasks in the background and then ran 3D Mark 2001 SE best I can get without Powerstrip is 7077

And with Powerstrip Performance Defaults 7098

Overclocking 270 /190 I can hit 7295 which is less than what you get without even overclocking.

I can only presume it is down to the Operating System used as otherwise the setups are Identical?

Not that I am complaining they are still good results I am just amazed at the results you have gotten - I cannot even get my Memory overclock above 190 without 3D Mark crashing - How did you manage a stable 212!! or was it not stable?

Ta.
Yes, it ran perfectly fine @212. What I find confusing is it wouldn't let me move the engine clock up with those 3.26 powerstrip drivers I had. So, all those overclocks the engine was still saying 259. I tried to hit 230 with the memory after that, but had some black lines, so I aborted the test and it was fine when I returned it.
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post #11 of 24
11/10/02 at 9:49pm
Any plans to post overclocking stuff with the 8886? It would be really nice to see them as well...
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post #12 of 24
11/11/02 at 12:25am
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Originally posted by beebster83
Any plans to post overclocking stuff with the 8886? It would be really nice to see them as well...
I already played around a little bit with it, maybe I'll play with it again soon and document it. It doesn't look like it will hit the scores the 5660 can though. It seems to lag at least 200 points behind.
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post #13 of 24
11/11/02 at 12:58am
That probably has to do with the abundance of peripherals that are attached to the motherboard. Actually, that's a completely unsubstantiated guess, but it seems to make sense. The mobo is a 5 spindle instead of whatever the 5660 is (4 or less I'm assuming?). In any case, is the difference very noticeable in the real world? Like on non-benchmark applications and games?

Thanks!
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post #14 of 24
11/14/02 at 4:31pm
Just for reference, my Dell 8200 came about a week ago with Win XP Professional, 2.0 GHz P4-M with 512 MB RAM, Radeon 9000, 5,400 RPM hard drive. It scored a 6870 on the 3dMark using the default drivers installed by Dell.

I too am a bit surprised that the Sagers with 2.8 GHz processors don't run significantly faster than the P4M 2.0 GHz in the Dell. I would've thought the performance would be much improved.

I ended up selling the Dell I just got because of a known banding issue with their screens and the ATI9000. I'm still searching for something else. The Sager 5660 seems to fit the bill nicely, but the battery life is the problem for me.
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post #15 of 24
11/14/02 at 5:56pm
First... the benchmark doesn't have much at all to do with processor power unless you use certain settings. Second, you could prolly get a dual battery setup for the 5660 and it'll last a long while for you. :-) Sager rocks.

Habib
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post #16 of 24
1/3/03 at 3:45am
Hey, I only hit 6978 on a 2.53/512/40(5400) with powerstrip on performance default. Could this be due to the fact that I am using win2k pro? Also, I hear a buzzing sometimes (during the vertex shader test in 3dmark among others), is this normal? TIA, -Jake
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post #17 of 24
1/3/03 at 3:56am
7372 running 212? What am I doing wrong?
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post #18 of 24
1/3/03 at 9:07am
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Originally posted by blue goose
7372 running 212? What am I doing wrong?
Maybe you have vert sync enabled?
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post #19 of 24
1/3/03 at 9:52am
no, the only box I have checked off is for subpixel accuracy. I only know a few things about max video performance (usually I just play the game any way the computer sees fit to run it) so I usually don't screw with the settings...

but like I said, maybe it is because all of you guys are running WinXP and I have Win2k Pro?
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post #20 of 24
1/3/03 at 9:56am
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Yes, that may be it. I have noticed consistently higher benchmarks with XP Pro.
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