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post #1 of 13
11/8/04 at 7:59pm
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sup guys, my 5680 is not going to hack it anymore for the upcoming hardcore games, so am going to build a Desktop and leave my laptop for next semester graphic design and animation classes.

Anyways, I haven't been following up with the new stuff for desktops for quite awhile. So I need some advice on good parts. My range is 500-600bucks for Motherboard, (1) 512 MB, Video Card, CPU.

I was going for a 64bit 3200 939 AMD CPU, with a Asus or Abit Motherboard.

For a Video card, am pretty lost in this department, with the whole PCI-Express cards, and AMD not having any PCI-Ex motherboards out (or are there?) what would be a good video card? Thanks for any help

-dj
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post #2 of 13
11/8/04 at 9:29pm
With only a budget of $600 you're going to be strapped no matter what you do.

I'd drop the socket 939 and just go with the socket 754. That will save you quite a bit in the processor price range.

Athlon 64 3000+ $153
Asus K8N Mainboard $89
1GB (2x512MB) Kingston RAM $164
Sapphire ATI Radeon 9800 256MB $203

All prices are Newegg.com.
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post #3 of 13
11/9/04 at 12:41am
I agree with Melodis, socket 939 is quite expensive, the cheapest you could find is probably around $200 for the lowest 64-bit performance chip. Generally, the newer 64-bit motherboard costs more than the 32-bit ones. The PCI-e cards is also more expensive since that's where all those higher end video cards are going into now plus you'll have to buy a relatively expensive board to supply it. Maybe you should go for a high performance 32-bit components to get the most of your money. Right now, the comptuer environment are 32-bit, so they will be okay performancewise. Or you could take Melodis' suggestion, the system looks good.
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post #4 of 13
11/9/04 at 1:24am
I disagree. Get the nice mobo and CPU and when you feel like upgrading you have worlds of potential. 1000 dollars will get a decent gaming system, and 2000 builds a near top of the line.
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post #5 of 13
11/9/04 at 1:53am
right, be he said his price limit is around 500 to 600. If i ahve all the money in the world, I would go all out with those AMD 64 FX chip, a newer SLI supported motherboard (whenever it comes out), and etc. But, no.. we are talking about within the price range.
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post #6 of 13
11/9/04 at 2:15am
i would say the opposite of malone,,,,he wants a gaming pc for hardcore games,,,they dont use much of the processor, but rather a high end video card. I would say stick with socket 754 (i dont even know wtf that is ) and go with like amd 64 3200 or even 3000+ and up ur system ram and video card to the max u can get...dont worry about pci-e, as your 5-600$ machine will only last you about a year with the gamng anyway,,,
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post #7 of 13
11/9/04 at 2:57pm
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thanks guys for the help.

Its funny cause I see guys go, i want the faster, top of the line computer, but my budget is like 500bucks. And now here I go with the same shit haha.

Anyways, I just want a overall good desktop that would run HL2 and a few more games coming out this coming early year. As by then I would have more money to keep on upgrading when I have time.

So am going to axe the PCI-E cards and just get a AGP card, maybe an ATI card. Get a 3200, maybe a 939 if I do a late car payment haha. And a 512 ram to equal 1 gig. Thanks again guys for the help.

Oh, which video should I look into? I swear I stop reading hardware news for a month and it feels like i been away for a year. hehe
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post #8 of 13
11/9/04 at 3:09pm
msi k8t800 neo2 fir 118
athlon 64 939 3000+ 165 (3200+ = $199)
ati 9800 pro 128mb 140 (256mb = $190)
corsair 512mb 400mhz 72
$495 total (optional = $579)

all newegg prices. bump up the value memory to a higher grade. upgrade cpu later.
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post #9 of 13
11/9/04 at 3:15pm
XFX NVIDIA GeForce 6600GT 128MB GDDR3 PCI-E 195$ of NewEgg
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post #10 of 13
11/10/04 at 2:09pm
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Originally Posted by Pyrodude808
XFX NVIDIA GeForce 6600GT 128MB GDDR3 PCI-E 195$ of NewEgg
well he didnt want the pci-e mobo, so i diont think he wants a pci-e vid card. DDR3 is all good and dandy when ur looking at spending $2000,,,but if u wanna do 25% of that,,,ur gonna have to go down a step,,,and to recommend a video card, i would personally say to stay within ur budget,,,,just buy what u can afford when the rest of the system is paid for,,,or be like me and stick with ur series notebookk,,,i have the 8890, which came out with the 5680,,same time i mean,,,stick with that,,,i will be hanging onto this laptop for at least 2 more years as I am in school and cant afford another technology plunge
As far as I can tell,,,the higher the price the better the card,,,except for the new pci-e cards,,,i hear there r driver issues preventing them from being "all that they can be "

dont forget u left a lot of stuff out of the mix in ur price,,,you have a case,,,a lot of companies dont ship hard drives and stuff with cords,,,hard drive,,cd drive,,,and a few other bits and ends,,,i only say this because it would suck to see u go out and buy all this stuff, and then you realize you don't have enough money for say, the power supply.
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post #11 of 13
11/10/04 at 3:46pm
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Originally Posted by ryanniedz
well he didnt want the pci-e mobo, so i diont think he wants a pci-e vid card. DDR3 is all good and dandy when ur looking at spending $2000,,,but if u wanna do 25% of that,,,ur gonna have to go down a step,,,and to recommend a video card, i would personally say to stay within ur budget,,,,just buy what u can afford when the rest of the system is paid for,,,or be like me and stick with ur series notebookk,,,i have the 8890, which came out with the 5680,,same time i mean,,,stick with that,,,i will be hanging onto this laptop for at least 2 more years as I am in school and cant afford another technology plunge
As far as I can tell,,,the higher the price the better the card,,,except for the new pci-e cards,,,i hear there r driver issues preventing them from being "all that they can be "

dont forget u left a lot of stuff out of the mix in ur price,,,you have a case,,,a lot of companies dont ship hard drives and stuff with cords,,,hard drive,,cd drive,,,and a few other bits and ends,,,i only say this because it would suck to see u go out and buy all this stuff, and then you realize you don't have enough money for say, the power supply.

Well, i just got an extra 200bucks from over time at my work, so budget is bumped to 800bucks or so.

Am keeping my laptop, but am just going to use it for my Graphic Design Classes next semester for my classes.

I have all of the rest of the stuff like a case, powersupply (400), 120gigs, one 512mb, montior, etc...

For the PCI-E, is there a AMD mobo out with PCI-E slot? But on a AGP, what is the best card that can handle HL2 and such. thanks bro for the help

-dj
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post #12 of 13
11/10/04 at 5:03pm
i gto a 3200+ and i dont reccomend getting the k8nnxp mobo
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post #13 of 13
11/13/04 at 5:30pm
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For the PCI-E, is there a AMD mobo out with PCI-E slot? But on a AGP, what is the best card that can handle HL2 and such. thanks bro for the help
The absolute best card out right now are the ATI X800XT PE (around $550+) or the nVidia 6800 Ultra (around $600+).

There aren't any mainboards out yet that support PCI-Express as well as an AMD processor. SiS has said on there website last month they would have one out in November, but I wouldn't hold your breath. Besides, there's no reason to go PCI-Express right now, especially with only an $800 budget.
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