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post #21 of 37
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http://www.msfn.org/win2k3/index.htm

Windows 2003 is versatile enough to do either. I usually configure it to act as a workstation on notebooks although I do have a dedicated Server at home for file/printer sharing. On the notebooks, went ahead and disabled many services that aren't necessary for workstation use.
post #22 of 37
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Originally Posted by somms
I also don't care for the default eye candy with XP, doesn't look professional at all and have found Windows 2003 generally more stable and usefull over XP.
You do realize that in less than 10 seconds (display prop. > appearance > windows and buttons) you can change from the Luna theme to Windows classic right?

Longhorn will also have a GUI that you may not appreciate as well:
http://not-named.net/images/desktop/...p-longhorn.jpg

How exactly is 2K3 "more stable and useful" over XP Pro when used in a regular workstation environment?
post #23 of 37
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Originally Posted by device manager
You do realize that in less than 10 seconds (display prop. > appearance > windows and buttons) you can change from the Luna theme to Windows classic right?

Longhorn will also have a GUI that you may not appreciate as well:
http://not-named.net/images/desktop/...p-longhorn.jpg

How exactly is 2K3 "more stable and useful" over XP Pro when used in a regular workstation environment?
The same way XP was a step up from Windows 2000, Windows 2003 is another step up from XP. It is progressive this way.

Out with the old and in with the new...until Longhorn or whatever Microsoft ends up calling it shows up...
post #24 of 37

Here's how to install windows server 2003

Ok, inspiron 700m folks who really must have windows 2003 on their computer. I've figured it out. So spread the love.

Symptom: when installing Windows Server 2003, computer freezes while installing drivers at the 34 minute mark.

Solution:

After you put the CD in the tray and start your computer to install Windows Server 2003, the first thing you'll see at the bottom of the screen is the option to press F6 if you need to install a SCSI or RAID controller. Don't press F6. Press F7 instead and keeping pressing past when you see F2 (I guess you probably don't need to, but I did). This will ensure that an ACPI HAL will be bypassed or not used.

I do not have the cd for windows server 2003, so I downloaded the trial version. I copied all the files from the .iso into a folder on my D drive (NTFS partitioned 20GB). I have windows xp pro on my C drive (NTFS partitioned 18GB). I then clicked on windows server 2003 setup.exe and it started the installation. Chose dynamic installation, to have the program connect to the internet to upload newer files if it needed it. I was able to do this, b/c i was in windows xp and the LAN was operational. Since windows xp and windows server 2003 do not recognize the LAN device, the installation via booted cd may or may not work properly if the program needed newer files. My 99% estimation is that there aren't any updated files that will affect the isntallation using your installation disc. Now since I was running windows xp pro, i got a dialogue when I started the installation that stated windows xp is not upgradable to windows server. click ok, and continue on with the installation.

For me, again I didn't have a disc, the computer rebooted, i selected the OS, the Windows Server 2003 installation, and after that you will get the message at the bottom of the sreen to press F6 if you need to install a SCSI or RAID controller. Again, you must press F7 during the time you see the F6 and F2 at the bottom of the screen. The installation will continue and simply follow the rest of the isntallation.

You do not need to change any bios configurations unless you are booting from an installation CD. I don't think it matters, but I placed the USB FDD, USB HDD, and PCI LAN in the Excluded from boot order within the bios Boot section. However, my wireless device was turned off.

When I clean installed windows xp pro, the same devices had drivers missing as in windows server 2003. Your dell driver cd or downloads from dell (and intel) will have the drivers you need.

The unrecognized hardware are as follows: LAN, graphics adapter, floppy controller, base system device, base system device, mass storage controller, multimedia audio controller, network controller (wireless), PCI Modem, video controller, com port 1, printer port (LPT3):

dell driver folders used to install: 85255(LAN), 76532(Graphics), 85896(Mass storage), 88573(multimedia), download 2200BG adatpter from intel site b/c the dell driver doesn't work(wireless), 72369(PCI Modem), 76532(video)

If you get a authenticated security driver hasn't been verified or whatever message, just click ok and continue to install.

if downloading from dell, download java www.java.com first. also you will need to configure your internet security settings.

I also installed installed 77273 (synaptics) although the touchpad and mouse keys work without it.

COM1, LPT3, and Standard floopy disk controller have error 10 (Probably because there aren't any ports on the 700m for these three items).

After all the drivers loaded, I did a windows update and downloaded all the updates (there were no driver updates listed).

I was able to connect to the internet, connect to the other computers on my network, etc. I've never used windows server 2003 before. but it doesn't look much different than windows xp pro.

for wireless, i normally like to use the operating system's program, but in this case, it does not allow for WPA-PSK, TKIP encryption, so if you want that you should use the intel procomm software. Windows server 2003 does allow for 128-bit WEP security.

Anyways, I'm not a computer guru at all. Just don't know much about them. I cannot explain why bypassing and preventing the ACPI HAL (by pressing F7 as stated above) from use. Maybe someone computer savy can explain what ACPI HAL is. The computer seems to run well under windows server 2003, but it would take me a while to figure out how to use it since i'm not familiar with it. So there you have it.

I checked out all ports except the monitor out and s-video (because i'm lazy, since the driver was accepted, i'm 99.9% sure it works). all ports work (USB, PCMCIA, SD, CDRW/DVD, internal LAN, internal modem, 2200BG wireless, firewire port)

My computer configuration is Inspiron 700m, 1.6GHZ, 1.256GB PC2700 RAM, 40GB Fujitsu 5400rpm HD (partitioned 18GB with windows XP pro, partitioned 20GB with windows server 2003), sony CDRW/DVD, 8-cell,

Hope this helps. If you report it to microsoft or dell, give me some credit at least (tim). Questions feel free to ask here or via email

with that said, the 700m isn't "designed for windows server 2003" as the sticker says it is "designed for windows xp", so if you install windows server 2003, you do so of your own free will.

Cheers.
post #25 of 37
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Thanks guy. Looks like I'll have to give it another shot using F7 this time around.

BTW: WPA Wireless security and the other goodies are available once the SP1 Beta is installed.
post #26 of 37
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Just as Laffingbilly said F7 will load Windows 2003 onto the 700m sans the ACPI interface in favor of old school IRQ steering. I'm still wondering why this newer OS doesn't recognize the 700m as having an ACPI compliant BIOS when the older XP does. Could be the Phoenix BIOS has something to do with it and I did install BIOS A01 prior to it being pulled off Dell's servers. So how much do you lose by not running ACPI besides the advanced power scheme (rather important for a portable notebook)?
post #27 of 37
I should mention, that i have bios A01 as well. can't answer all that technical stuff. I will say that it appeared my computer was operating faster with windows server 2003 though. i've already taken it off of my computer, though. just don't have time to play around with it now (getting close to the end of school you know). with that said, since it looked like it was running much better, I may give it another try using the 14 day trial to see how much it consumes battery life. with that said, i understand that the current bios doesn't take advantage of the battery chipset so i'm not sure how much of a difference windows 2k3 will be. My prediction would be none

also, i don't like those yellow exclamation marks in the device manager. windows xp doesn't have a problem with LPT3, COM1 and floppy disk controller, so maybe you can fingure out why error 10 pops up for those under windowws 2k3. since you have beta 1, maybe it'll fix it. i didn't install beta 1. just updates from windows update.
post #28 of 37
EDIT: See you guys fixed it...
post #29 of 37
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Not really. I just went to the trouble of downloading the Windows 2003 SP1 Build1260 integrated install .iso from windowsbeta.microsoft.com and the 700m still isn't detected as being ACPI compliant during the install (freeze while installing devices).
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^^that was me, I just posted it under my username on that board. it's the same posting as the one i posted above.
post #32 of 37
What is in Win2003 Server that is so good that you want it so bad on a LAPTOP for?
post #33 of 37
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Originally Posted by MitchellO
What is in Win2003 Server that is so good that you want it so bad on a LAPTOP for?
don't know, you have to ask the person who was trying to install it.
post #34 of 37
I was sorry
post #35 of 37
I run 2k3 on my i8200 and to be honest, it is a more stable OS

If nothing else the kernel is updated from XP (even XP-SP2)

boot time is very quick and basically, by following some simple guides it runs like XP, but just a bit better.

Once they have WPA support then we'll be fully set, but there really isn't anything you can't do on 2k3 that you can do on XP

even my pop in my i8200 went away with 2k3!!
post #36 of 37
Does it run well on the 8600? Has anyone here tried it.
post #37 of 37
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Originally Posted by lcohen999
I run 2k3 on my i8200 and to be honest, it is a more stable OS

If nothing else the kernel is updated from XP (even XP-SP2)

boot time is very quick and basically, by following some simple guides it runs like XP, but just a bit better.

Once they have WPA support then we'll be fully set, but there really isn't anything you can't do on 2k3 that you can do on XP

even my pop in my i8200 went away with 2k3!!
Download the latest Beta SP1 linked at the top of this thread in order to enable WPA/WPA-PSK support.
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