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post #21 of 36
This may be off topic but I'm wondering about the next GPU upgrades that will be offered to the current XPS/9100 owners. ( I am in no hurry because I just got my 9100 three month ago. Just curious.)

I'm not to familair with the technicalities but the pentuim four is maxed out at 3.4. Surely the next GPU's are going to utilize the next processor's to come out. (PCI-EXPRESS?) Which kinda sticks it to us xps/9100 owners. I for one bought the 9100 for the potential cost effective future upgrade.

Given that XPS owners PAY extra for the gaurenteed upgrade what will be offered? Probably will have to get a whole new mobo and all. Seeing as how the M18 costs around $250 and Dell likes to bloat thier prices a bit it will not be cheap.
Any thoughts?

Piece!
post #22 of 36
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Originally Posted by rogueone
You need to read more carefully

I said the XPS2 isn't expected till then, because of comments made by some here with behind the scenes knowledge.

The replacement for the 9100 many of us expect to be announced next week, if indeed it is Dell who is announcing along side ATI next week.
Oh.... how exciting.

dell >> * Hey, Mr. CEO, can I please have that lunch break you owe me? Uhh, no! -- Back to working! We need this 9100 finished! --- double time everyone! * lol
post #23 of 36
The P-4 northwood is maxed out at 3.4 GHz. The P-4 Prescott has yet to be maxed out and is currently at 3.8 GHz. I believe people are out of luck for upgrades to non pci-e cards. Unfortunatley pci-e looks to be the new trend. Good for people just now buying, bad for people who have already bought.
post #24 of 36
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Originally Posted by SirBA
I am just curious why dell had to make 9200 with a 17 inch screen(good) and with an M processor(sux big time)

People think 9200 is better than 9100 (just because the number is greater : LOL however i9200 can even get close to 9100 for any purpose

I wonder what was the big point of making i9200?
For the 40 bazillionth time the 9200 is the successor for the 8600. The 9100 replacement will be out sometime in the future....
post #25 of 36
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Originally Posted by Mr.Mojo
This may be off topic but I'm wondering about the next GPU upgrades that will be offered to the current XPS/9100 owners. ( I am in no hurry because I just got my 9100 three month ago. Just curious.)

I'm not to familair with the technicalities but the pentuim four is maxed out at 3.4. Surely the next GPU's are going to utilize the next processor's to come out. (PCI-EXPRESS?) Which kinda sticks it to us xps/9100 owners. I for one bought the 9100 for the potential cost effective future upgrade.

Given that XPS owners PAY extra for the gaurenteed upgrade what will be offered? Probably will have to get a whole new mobo and all. Seeing as how the M18 costs around $250 and Dell likes to bloat thier prices a bit it will not be cheap.
Any thoughts?

Piece!
Sorry, to disappoint but there will be no more video upgrades for the 9100/XPS. The 9800 is the end of the line.
post #26 of 36
only way there might be an upgrade for us i9100/xps users is if by some miracle dell chooses to use the exact same case and just change the mobo/cpu/gfx card. i don't think it'll happen, but since i got my i9100 with the mr9800 around 1600, i'm fine with it's power and ability to handle these great games that have just come out. there's enough eye candy for me, and anyways i still have all three consoles to play games to so i'm kool. the new lappys comming out are super powerful, but i think they cost way too much for now.
post #27 of 36
Mr Mojo,

the upgrade option for the 9100/XPS was based on the original with the mr9700. The mr9800 was the upgrade.

These lappies are AGP, so a pci-e gpu could never work, and ATI has stated when the 9800 came out they had no plans to create anymore agp mobile gpu's.

So there would be no reason to think there will be another option.
post #28 of 36
Quote:
Originally Posted by rogueone
Mr Mojo,

the upgrade option for the 9100/XPS was based on the original with the mr9700. The mr9800 was the upgrade.

These lappies are AGP, so a pci-e gpu could never work, and ATI has stated when the 9800 came out they had no plans to create anymore agp mobile gpu's.

So there would be no reason to think there will be another option.

Yeah but there's always hope isn't there?
post #29 of 36
Could anyine say petition?
post #30 of 36
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by AxiomofIllusion
and you believe everything people say..


no but i believe that's the truth centrino sux jsut like m

have you ever played everquest ii with a 1.7ghz centrino
you haven't...

well i did sorry i tried lots of lags during the game
post #31 of 36
Man. I knew I bought my lappy during the calm before the huge new gaming rig storm. I would have waited but I needed a lappy hardcore when I bought this baby.

So, the question is, were all those that bought an XPS after the M18 came out told a future upgrade was not available? If not, wouldn't that be a breach of contract? I remember reading the XPS info pages on Dells website after the M18 came out and they still guarenteed an upgrade.

Keep in mind that I believe what every one has said about there not being an upgrade available. This is about Dells integrity as a company.

I would imagine in a years time they will have many angry customers demanding some sort of compinsation since XPS owners payed extra for a future upgrade.

I can imagin lots of snickering customer servic reps and dell execs laughing and winking at each other all in on this inside joke.

It a conspiracy!!!!
post #32 of 36
i'm sure that dell's legal division wouldn't let a screwup of that proportion happen... anyways i bet the small print on that XPS upgrade thing says it's only good from a MR9700 to 9800 or something to that effect. if not that would be a nice little class action you guys would have there
post #33 of 36
The upgradability of the XPS is limited to going from a MR 9700 to a MR 9800. That's it. There was no promise from Dell that the XPS was upgradable to PCI-E or anything like that. If you have a MR 9800 then you're at the end of the line as far as GPUs are concerned. Having said that, the MR 9800 is still a kickass GPU and should be a viable gaming card for at least a 1-2 years. I wouldn't complain if I had one.
post #34 of 36
I agree. Dell knew the M18 upgrade for the I9100/XPS was a one-time deal. People really don't have any room to complain though...just look at all the Alienware owners that got screwed over after being promised future upgrades.
post #35 of 36
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Mojo
Man. I knew I bought my lappy during the calm before the huge new gaming rig storm. I would have waited but I needed a lappy hardcore when I bought this baby.

So, the question is, were all those that bought an XPS after the M18 came out told a future upgrade was not available? If not, wouldn't that be a breach of contract? I remember reading the XPS info pages on Dells website after the M18 came out and they still guarenteed an upgrade.

Keep in mind that I believe what every one has said about there not being an upgrade available. This is about Dells integrity as a company.

I would imagine in a years time they will have many angry customers demanding some sort of compinsation since XPS owners payed extra for a future upgrade.

I can imagin lots of snickering customer servic reps and dell execs laughing and winking at each other all in on this inside joke.

It a conspiracy!!!!

Mojo, I'm pretty sure once the 9800 was announced the "one time upgrade" promise was removed. That doesn't make the unit not upgradeable, if you choose not to buy the 9800 when you order though. There were posts here where new readers were asking where the upgrade went, not understanding the 9800 was out so the promise of a future upgrade was no longer needed.

seriously, you're the first person here complaining where are the future upgrades. So I seriously doubt there will be some major outcry. We all went into this knowing there was a limited upgrade path as AGP was at it's end. Those who bought pre 9800 did so on the promise of Dell. Those after the 9800 did so knowing they could either have the upgrade upfront, or could try to penny pinch now and hope they could still get a 9800 later.

Now, would I love to hear ATI will make another 1 or 2 AGP gpus? Sure. But right now, there'd be no reason to upgrade. the 9800 runs great in any game right now, except D3, and that is mostly due to ATI never having been great with OpenGL drivers.

These lappies will do fine for the next 2 years, possibly 3, then when you've really gotten your money's worth, it will be time for a new upgrade. And I suspect by then, all these changes to how mobile graphics is done will be finished, and some standards might actually exist, and discussions like this won't be needed anymore.
post #36 of 36
Thanks every one for your comments.

I didn't feel I was complaining I just wanted to get the the bottom of the future upgrade thing for my own peace of mind. And I was also concerned if Dell was silently ripping people off selling a future upgradable XPS that is not.

There is always some new better and brighter CPU, GPU, or new laptop model on the horizen. They way I look at it is I can use what I got to the max and love it or always be complaining how I don't have the newest or biggest. Unfortunaly many people live their live this way. Completely missing what is in front of their faces...Anywho Piece and Chicken Grease!
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