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post #21 of 66
I see that too. So far no luck.
Tell me this though.. Doesn't this look very Asus to you?
Oddly enough it does sport a 128MB M11 and PC3200 RAM.
post #22 of 66
The diabloo is missing the controls the Asus has on the left side, and the asus is missing the speakers below the screen that the diabloo has.
post #23 of 66
Are you guys sure that this P4Laptops is trustworthy? Here is the spec page from the OEM of the laptop. Notice that this is almost the exact same page as the P4Laptops page, except 128MB of video memory is replaced with 256MB on P4Laptops page. Looks like deliberate deceit to me.

Vector51, when you said you spoke to several sales people, are they all from P4Laptops? Are you able to verify that this company is legitimate?
post #24 of 66
No, no. Company screwed up. The pictures in the gallery and the pictures under details are quite different.
I was just wondering if they screwed up completely..
post #25 of 66
The Millennia™ 6200 is definetely a asus.
post #26 of 66
Actually didn't check out this thread first, so the other one is quite redundant..
Edit: As is this post.
post #27 of 66
threads merged.
post #28 of 66
This is very interesting. The Millennia looks exactly like an Asus M6N on their main page: http://www.itchannel.com.au/Products/millennia-6200.asp
But if you go to their gallery page, http://www.itchannel.com.au/Products...millennia-6200, you will see that this is actually the same notebook as that other Centrino with 256MB M11: http://www.de-laptopper.nl/index.php?file_id=3211.

What is going on here? If ITC is using the wrong image, then that means P4Laptops is also using the wrong image. I am beginning to think that if P4Laptops is a scam, then ITC is probably in with them. But I have no reason to suspect that they are illegitimate. Perhaps those who talked with them can provide more info. But at least we now know that both laptops with 256MB VRAM are actually the same model.
post #29 of 66
I've not bought anything from P4Laptops, but ITC are one of the largest laptop makers in Australia, a bit like Sager in the US. They've been reviewed in lots of magazines and are definately legit.

There is a retail place not far from me that stocks ITC lappies. I can always wander down there and see if they know anything more.

Cheers

Steve
post #30 of 66
It's amazing how such a large OEM can make such a huge mistake. Not just one picture, but three pictures, no less. As well as one line about 400MHz and 533MHz RAM. Not a very scrupulous company, are they?
post #31 of 66
I sent ITC an email earlier today pointing out the inacurracies and got a reply quite quickly. That's always nice. And now they've changed the site.

The 6200 is not Asus M6 based, it is indeed whatever the other one from Norway was.

Having received their apology for the errors on their site, I did pass on my opinion of how this makes them look, let alone their equally incorrect dealers, and even indicated that people on forums around the world were questioning them.

So, having told various people on this forum that there was an Asus M6 with a 256Mb 9700, I must withdraw any such statement. I have no idea.


Cheers

Steve
post #32 of 66
Bah...they still haven't fixed the two pictures under Feature Highlights. And they call the M11 "Mobility Radeon 9700 PRO", a designation ATI is avoiding. This still borders on deceitful marketing.

Anyway, now comes the long and arduous process of identifying the ODM. I guess Arima. Taking all bets...
post #33 of 66
I just got this response from p4laptops:

"... my goodness, what a mess. Yes it does appear that our picture, and specs, are old ones supplied by ITC, and that ITC have recently updated their website in the last few days without informing us of the total change of look and technical specification. The specs as described on ITC's site at this moment are right, except the current video is 256MB ATI Radeon 9700. Our web will be updated with the new picture and specifications by 6pm this evening, mostly thanks to your email.

You've certainly stirred up a hornets nest with us and ITC, and I do appreciate your feedback as it has helped us to iron things out. I hope things can be rectified in the forums..."

Ah, the power of NotebookForums.



Steve
post #34 of 66
Thread Starter 
Wow, p4laptops4u is right about one thing, this forum has “certainly stirred up a hornets nest”. It is good to see that ITC has changed the pics of the ITC6200.

http://www.itchannel.com.au/Products...millennia-6200

I came very close to buying this notebook, I’m now going to go with a “true” Asus M6N. If I had bought the ITC6200 I would now be returning it….

Very tempted to inform the Australian competation and consumer commission (ACCC)who police against misleading advertising about the ITC6200 issue.

Its odd, the 6200 on the ITC page now only comes with a 128MB 9700!?
Still, other companies carry the ITC 6200 advertised with the 256 MB 9700 and use the Asus M6N pics supplied by ITC.
post #35 of 66
Thread Starter 
Thanks to deltawalkerl and sfdoddsy for saving me from making a notebook-buying mistake. I’ll stick to a name brand (Asus) for the current notebook purchase.
post #36 of 66
So did it became clear on what ODM is the ITC 6200 based? It might not be an Asus M6 but it sure does look great.
post #37 of 66
hmm, Intel 855GME chipset AND dedicated graphics?

something's amiss
post #38 of 66
Thread Starter 
One of the managers of bestdeal4u (a ITC reseller) responded to me as to who is the ODM "I am quite certain that the 6200 uses Uniwil who have made Asus & Toshiba and a few other models also, quite successfully. The 6200 model will be appearing also as a notebook from Fujitsu as far as I am aware".
post #39 of 66
Uniwill, eh? Thanks for the lead.

FYI, quite a few notebooks come with GME chipset and dedicated graphics. The GME chipset provides an AGP 4x graphics connection for whatever reason. I guess they are for ODMs who just wants to produce flexible models that can function both with and without a dedicated GPU. But they should consume more power than a similar model with the PM chipset, seeing as how a northbridge like the GME dedicates more than 80% of its circuitry to graphics.
post #40 of 66

Hoping to clear matters

Hello All,
ITC wishes to apologize for the incorrect information on our website and any inconvenience caused. The purpose of this post is to try and resolve the issues that have been create due to poor and inaccurate information. We thought it best to offer it straight from the horses mouth, and despite our lacking in credibility in these forums, we hope that at least, it will clear the air.
1)The Millennia 6200 is not the Asus M6N. The Asus M6N was an product briefly sold by ITC to resellers who demanded a 15.4" widescreen solution whilst the Millennia 6200 was not available. Stupidly enough, the picture of the M6N was used to fill the website. This professional blunder will be resolved and never done again.
2)The ATI Radeon 9700 graphics chip in the Millennia 6200 definitely comes with 256MB of DDR video ram. The Millennia 6200 was first slated with 128MB of video ram but the specification has been upgraded prior to it's release. Once again, we apologize that our web administration have not been diligent with this.
3)For all your information, the ODM of the Millennia 6200 is in fact Uniwill and is selectively sold through certain channels.
Once again, we are sorry for any convenience or dare we say grief in this matter and hope this posting serves it's purpose. Any feedback or replies are certainly welcome.

Ralph Lee
Technical Sales
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